[QUOTE=Tuskin;43201888]According to TARDIS wiki there is a deleted scene that says it.
[editline]16th December 2013[/editline]
That was a deleted scene[/QUOTE]
Ah that's what he meant by "it was on the DVD". I was gonna say "I'M SURE ALL THIS HAPPENED IN THE EPISODE". Would've been egg on my face.
I'm still kinda curious about if the Valeyard will ever come up again. NotD gave a shout out, but I hear it's a bit of a thing most people want to avoid for various reasons of complication.
Certainly would be remarkable now, knowing that the rework of the regeneration numbers mean he could've been born in the final moments of the End of Time. Heck, Big Finish is covering him again, [url=http://bigfinish.com/releases/v/trial-of-the-valeyard-929]he's the focus of this year's Subscriber December exclusive story.[/url]
I've decided the only fitting way for Eleven to die is by extreme food poisoning. The food? Baked beans. Beans are evil. Bad bad beans. The ultimate overarching story which 'people haven’t bothered to ask about!'
What about the plate of bread he threw like a frisbee? What if he threw it all the way to Trenzalore and it's just going to cut his head off!?
I might end up rewatching Series 5/6 and looking out of anything that looks apparently normal, but could be part of something.
Like the Doctor looking at Jeff weirdly, and getting very close to his eyes? Possible Zygon?
I hope as he dies the faces of ducks appear and rotate around his head in an 80's fashion:
"Why didn't you save us Doctor?" they cry.
The Doctor slowly dies, on his last breath he mournfully whispers "duck pond.. why were there no ducks".
Cut to the Leadworth Duck Pond. The TARDIS is parked next to it with doors open, out steps a tired looking Capaldi carrying a flock of ducks in his arms.
Jeff Daniels looks on with a tear in his eye.
If Jeff makes an appearance at Christmas it will be the greatest thing since the Day of the Doctor.
[QUOTE=Grizz;43204490][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AledulxJKqo[/media]
:v: :v:[/QUOTE]
Close Clara, but nose isn't all funny.
there's that shadow that runs by the clock in the eleventh hour that is never explained
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;43204868]there's that shadow that runs by the clock in the eleventh hour that is never explained[/QUOTE]oo really? what time into the episode? screengrab?
When Amy speaks to the Doctor in the Lodger via phone, she looks away and shouts "Hey!" and looks at something. She quickly forgets what she's done and continues talking to the Doctor on the phone like nothing happened. I'm guessing that's the Silence in the TARDIS, maybe?
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;43204868]there's that shadow that runs by the clock in the eleventh hour that is never explained[/QUOTE]
Prisoner Zero?
[QUOTE=Sonic Fan;43204952]When Amy speaks to the Doctor in the Lodger via phone, she looks away and shouts "Hey!" and looks at something. She quickly forgets what she's done and continues talking to the Doctor on the phone like nothing happened. I'm guessing that's the Silence in the TARDIS, maybe?[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;A2E7KiFsKz8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2E7KiFsKz8[/video]
She says "Hey!" because she's in an incredibly dangerous situation and The Doctor essentially hangs up on her and walks out the room.
She looked afraid because The Doctor tells her she's in terrible danger but to "not worry". The second time she says "Hey!" she even repeats what The Doctor just said, she's clearly talking to him.
This only looks a bit odd (Karen's timing is slightly off) as the episode had an old filming pattern.
Karen wasn't available when it was filmed so I think she did her parts either before or after Matt did his. Either way when they went to edit it together they didn't gel together too well simply because both are a little unpredictable when it comes to acting and it wasn't rehearsed so they couldn't play off eachother effectively.
I dunno, that second clip looked pretty convincing. Why would they play that down beat tone when she looks scared and why would she gasp? You never know, maybe originally there was an explanation to the TARDIS exploding earlier than.. well.. this Christmas.
There are a few questions left hanging from The Lodger though.
How did an abandoned Silent Ship end up on top of Craig's flat? Why is The Silent ship seemingly based on Timelord design (the central collum and the blending with the environment? Why and how did the Silents learn to travel in time? Why does it recognise The Doctor as "The correct pilot?" Who was the captain that died? How did he die?
These are much better questions to ask, I think.
If David Tennant ever comes back (in a 10 year anniversary of the shows revival or something) I hope he leaves with a straw cowboy hat, sunglasses and a pink flower necklace, just like in the End of Time.
Daft theory: The silents are manifestations of the Doctor's meddling throughout time. That's why they all wear suits and people forget them when not looking directly at one (because the Doctor is trying to erase knowledge of himself from the universe)
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;43204868]there's that shadow that runs by the clock in the eleventh hour that is never explained[/QUOTE]
That was The Doctor from The Big Bang.
if the master returns I really hope the next actor plays him less insane
surely the drumbeat in his head should be gone now so
[QUOTE=CoolCorky;43205207]Daft theory: The silents are manifestations of the Doctor's meddling throughout time. That's why they all wear suits and people forget them when not looking directly at one (because the Doctor is trying to erase knowledge of himself from the universe)[/QUOTE]
This is my personal theory, it's not based on any spoilers but I saw it as some speculation some time back:
[sp]The Doctor creates The Silents to fight for him in the Battle of Trenzalore. He even builds the ships for them (which is why they are so simmilar to TARDIS' and why the one in The Lodger recognises him as the pilot, because he probably was).
When he created The Silents he programmed them genetically to always want to protect the universe by any means possible. After Trenzalore ends a few escape and go on to protect the universe as they were instructed. Even if that means killing their creator because they're worried (having seen the prophecy and the battle of Trenzalore) that he will destroy the whole universe by speaking his name. They even create the Pandorica and blow up the TARDIS to stop him.
Ultimately The Doctor kills his own creation at the start of Series 6. They were just trying to do the good thing. They were trying to protect the universe from a monster[/sp]
that's a good theory!
only problem is is that [sp]I can't see Eleven wanting to fight, or making things that fight. I dunno, just would seem out of character. Maybe something drives him to do it though.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Freeze;43205321]that's a good theory!
only problem is is that [sp]I can't see Eleven wanting to fight, or making things that fight. I dunno, just would seem out of character. Maybe something drives him to do it though.[/sp][/QUOTE]
True, but we know he does as we've seen the remains of Trenzalore.
Wouldn't it make more sense knowing that [sp]those graves are for the endless waves of Silents which WANTED to fight and WANTED to die to protect the planet as it's what they lived for, instead of legions of people who HAD to fight to protect a man that was known as The Beast and The Valeyard[/sp].
One more possible flaw in the theory: [sp]This scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PUVk4TJ3SQ, why would they randomly kill her if they were built to save the universe and as many lives as possible? Unless they were driven insane or something of course...[/sp]
So there's a petition to elect Peter Capaldi as my university's rector:
[url]http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/peter-capaldi-for-university-of-glasgow-rector[/url]
He is from Glasgow, I suppose. :v:
[QUOTE=Freeze;43205434]One more possible flaw in the theory: [sp]This scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PUVk4TJ3SQ, why would they randomly kill her if they were built to save the universe and as many lives as possible? Unless they were driven insane or something of course...[/sp][/QUOTE]
I think they were flawed fundamentally anyway. [sp]they meant well. They want to save the universe. But they begin seeing danger everywhere. That woman for whatever reason registered as a danger to them, maybe they were worried she would expose them. So they blew her up[/sp]
[QUOTE=Dan2593;43202048]Ah that's what he meant by "it was on the DVD". I was gonna say "I'M SURE ALL THIS HAPPENED IN THE EPISODE". Would've been egg on my face.[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;i3MzNvT5q6E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3MzNvT5q6E[/video]
[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;43205621][video=youtube;i3MzNvT5q6E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3MzNvT5q6E[/video][/QUOTE]
I like Mickey here.
He was just a guy who meant well. Not the grizzly soldier he became.
[QUOTE=Dan2593;43205173]There are a few questions left hanging from The Lodger though.
How did an abandoned Silent Ship end up on top of Craig's flat? Why is The Silent ship seemingly based on Timelord design (the central collum and the blending with the environment? Why and how did the Silents learn to travel in time? Why does it recognise The Doctor as "The correct pilot?" Who was the captain that died? How did he die?
These are much better questions to ask, I think.[/QUOTE]blending with the environment is a concept that's useful in any situation and i'm sure it wouldn't take a lot to find out what the tardis looked like from the inside.
[QUOTE=Dan2593;43205173]blending with the environment?[/QUOTE]
Perception filters, the main plot device of Series 5 and a bit of 6.
I think Moffat relied on "perception filters" too much.
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