[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;44965719]I cannot believe you're talking shit about Vincent and the Doctor[/QUOTE]
Vincent and The Doctor was a good episode, one of my favourites in fact. I was referring to his short appearance in The Pandorica Opens.
[QUOTE]surely whoever takes over can't do worse than him[/QUOTE]
The writer of The Lodger, perhaps?
The show's most successful writer isn't going to be sacked any time soon. His status as showrunner was only elevated last year - he'll be leaving when he likes.
Best Doctor Who trailer
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO78rRjE7Og[/media]
[QUOTE=Nasal_Spray;44965074]*Scanny, wavey, flappy, know all magic wand - The Doctor just waves his stick about and suddenly knows everything or just waves it about for no reason (E.g. when The Doctor "sonics" stonehenge).[/QUOTE]It's to keep the plot moving, the same thing happened in the RTD era. Imagine how slow it'd be if the Doctor had to look for everything by hand.
[QUOTE=Nasal_Spray;44965074]*Power of love/thought - Can be fine if done right and given a sciency sounding explanation, not so with Moffat & Co (E.g. Amy thinking The Doctor back into existence, fat bloke loves average looking chick, star with a leaf fetish, I mean really!).[/QUOTE]This has only happened twice if I recall correctly. Not exactly overused, I'd agree slightly silly but not overused. Saying 'fat bloke loves average looking chick' is just stupid though, love isn't 100% based on looks unless you're really shallow. The leaf thing isn't really anything to do with love. RTD has done the same sort of thing before.
[QUOTE=Nasal_Spray;44965074]*Passage of time - The show treats "the slow path" as nothing more than a plot device, fine for minor characters but for major characters it should have a major impact (E.g. Rory's ginge in a box, The Doctor spending a few centuries on Trenzalore).
*Time as a plot device - [del]"as soon as the TARDIS lands I become part of events, stuck in the timeline"[/del], screw that, time's my bitch (E.g. End of series 5, A Christmas Carol).[/QUOTE]If you don't like time related plot devices I think you're watching the wrong television. The entire premise of the show is the fact that the Doctor is a time-travelling alien.
[QUOTE=Nasal_Spray;44965074]*Fanwank - Why take the time and effort to write a decent series final when you can just stuff all past enemies into a 45/50 minute failisode (E.g. Series 5 ending & The Time of the Doctor).[/QUOTE]If you honestly believe this sort of thing started happening in Moffat's era you're crazy. Look at the end of the End of Time, Journey's End/Stolen Earth, the dalek in the middle of the Waters of Mars etc.
[QUOTE=Nasal_Spray;44965074]*Companions as a plot device - I'm starting to get tired writing witty comments on Moffat & Co's farcical scripts, I'm not even sure this forum deserves them given how hive minded and anti me you all are.[/QUOTE]Once again, companions are a key part of the show and if they weren't part of the plot it wouldn't be the same show. The same thing happened in the RTD era. Maybe the reason people are 'anti-you' is because you're not a very nice person? People don't generally like mean people.
[QUOTE=Nasal_Spray;44965074]1. The Doctor finds out about the pandorica in a natural, believable fashion.
2. A contrived plot involving an insane artist, a British politician, future jailbird and a blue fat bloke. Add in defiling history, cryptic messages and impossible odds.
Guess which one the Moff goes for?[/QUOTE]It's almost as if he wanted it to be a fun and interesting episode? Same sort of thing happened in the RTD era.
[QUOTE=Nasal_Spray;44965074]*Oh my god, they killed Rory - I like my dead characters to stay dead, bringing them back just ruins the impact of their death and any future deaths.[/QUOTE]I'd agree that is a bit silly but it's an extremely minor point over an entire era. Especially as Rory never was properly killed so it didn't need the impact. The impact was from them leaving the Doctor not them dying. Once again the same sort of thing happened with RTD. Rose left and came back quite a few times.
Overall I think you're just being a negative Nancy. You're actively [I]looking[/I] for reasons to hate Moffat. Most of the things you've listed A. Aren't even really fair and B. Happen in the RTD era also, so why are you only bashing on Moffat? You're either A. Trolling or B. Blind.
[QUOTE=Nasal_Spray;44965074]I've been watching the entire modern run of Doctor Who this last month, from Rose right up to The Time of the Doctor. I think I've pinpointed the exact moment the show jumped the shark (or kicked the ball I should say) and nosedived from great to shit. The transition is jarring and happens in the space of half an episode.
The episode I'm talking about is The Lodger, the transition happens when The Doctor plays football. From that point onwards the ridiculous dial is cranked up to max and quality control of the scripts goes out the window.
The following traits that are either ridiculous or overused became apparent after The Lodger:
*Scanny, wavey, flappy, know all magic wand - The Doctor just waves his stick about and suddenly knows everything or just waves it about for no reason (E.g. when The Doctor "sonics" stonehenge).
*Power of love/thought - Can be fine if done right and given a sciency sounding explanation, not so with Moffat & Co (E.g. Amy thinking The Doctor back into existence, fat bloke loves average looking chick, star with a leaf fetish, I mean really!).
*Passage of time - The show treats "the slow path" as nothing more than a plot device, fine for minor characters but for major characters it should have a major impact (E.g. Rory's ginge in a box, The Doctor spending a few centuries on Trenzalore).
*Fanwank - Why take the time and effort to write a decent series final when you can just stuff all past enemies into a 45/50 minute failisode (E.g. Series 5 ending & The Time of the Doctor).
*Time as a plot device - [del]"as soon as the TARDIS lands I become part of events, stuck in the timeline"[/del], screw that, time's my bitch (E.g. End of series 5, A Christmas Carol).
*Companions as a plot device - I'm starting to get tired writing witty comments on Moffat & Co's farcical scripts, I'm not even sure this forum deserves them given how hive minded and anti me you all are.
*Just Cause - Two choices:
1. The Doctor finds out about the pandorica in a natural, believable fashion.
2. A contrived plot involving an insane artist, a British politician, future jailbird and a blue fat bloke. Add in defiling history, cryptic messages and impossible odds.
Guess which one the Moff goes for?
*Oh my god, they killed Rory - I like my dead characters to stay dead, bringing them back just ruins the impact of their death and any future deaths.
Just look at that list! I've only just got to the end of series five and already my list of issues looks like a Java exception (an appropriate analogy if I may say so myself). Don't get me started on other issues I have with the show such as the blockbuster, forced epic feel to it and retconning (an unforgivable sin as it prevents future show runners from undoing your fuck ups).
The sooner Moffat steps down (sacked) the better, surely whoever takes over can't do worse than him. I'll give Moffat one thing though, he chose a good actor for the 12th Doctor, out of all the favorites at the time, he is the one I would have gone for (I still shudder thinking that cunt from the BT adverts could have been The Doctor).[/QUOTE]
How dare you
[QUOTE=Nasal_Spray;44965074]i hate moffat[/QUOTE]
Oh boy, if you hate how whacky and nonsensical the plot became in Series 5, you are in for a [i]real treat[/i] when you start Series 6.
Did I just summon a high concentration of strongly angry opinions on Moffat and the show as it is when I browsed that one forum topic of guys who wanted to pretend John Hurt's Doctor never happened?
[QUOTE=Nasal_Spray;44965074]I've been watching the entire modern run of Doctor Who this last month, from Rose right up to The Time of the Doctor. I think I've pinpointed the exact moment the show jumped the shark (or kicked the ball I should say) and nosedived from great to shit. The transition is jarring and happens in the space of half an episode.
The episode I'm talking about is The Lodger, the transition happens when The Doctor plays football. From that point onwards the ridiculous dial is cranked up to max and quality control of the scripts goes out the window.
The following traits that are either ridiculous or overused became apparent after The Lodger:
*Scanny, wavey, flappy, know all magic wand - The Doctor just waves his stick about and suddenly knows everything or just waves it about for no reason (E.g. when The Doctor "sonics" stonehenge).
*Power of love/thought - Can be fine if done right and given a sciency sounding explanation, not so with Moffat & Co (E.g. Amy thinking The Doctor back into existence, fat bloke loves average looking chick, star with a leaf fetish, I mean really!).
*Passage of time - The show treats "the slow path" as nothing more than a plot device, fine for minor characters but for major characters it should have a major impact (E.g. Rory's ginge in a box, The Doctor spending a few centuries on Trenzalore).
*Fanwank - Why take the time and effort to write a decent series final when you can just stuff all past enemies into a 45/50 minute failisode (E.g. Series 5 ending & The Time of the Doctor).
*Time as a plot device - [del]"as soon as the TARDIS lands I become part of events, stuck in the timeline"[/del], screw that, time's my bitch (E.g. End of series 5, A Christmas Carol).
*Companions as a plot device - I'm starting to get tired writing witty comments on Moffat & Co's farcical scripts, I'm not even sure this forum deserves them given how hive minded and anti me you all are.
*Just Cause - Two choices:
1. The Doctor finds out about the pandorica in a natural, believable fashion.
2. A contrived plot involving an insane artist, a British politician, future jailbird and a blue fat bloke. Add in defiling history, cryptic messages and impossible odds.
Guess which one the Moff goes for?
*Oh my god, they killed Rory - I like my dead characters to stay dead, bringing them back just ruins the impact of their death and any future deaths.
Just look at that list! I've only just got to the end of series five and already my list of issues looks like a Java exception (an appropriate analogy if I may say so myself). Don't get me started on other issues I have with the show such as the blockbuster, forced epic feel to it and retconning (an unforgivable sin as it prevents future show runners from undoing your fuck ups).
The sooner Moffat steps down (sacked) the better, surely whoever takes over can't do worse than him. I'll give Moffat one thing though, he chose a good actor for the 12th Doctor, out of all the favorites at the time, he is the one I would have gone for (I still shudder thinking that cunt from the BT adverts could have been The Doctor).[/QUOTE]
I stopped reading after you asserted it "jumped the shark" as fact and then went to slate one of my favourite episodes.
I'm mostly amused that despite you feeling the show went to shit with The Lodger, you continued to watch the additional nearly 4 years worth of TV anyway.
[QUOTE=Freeze;44968088]It's to keep the plot moving, the same thing happened in the RTD era. Imagine how slow it'd be if the Doctor had to look for everything by hand.[/quote]
I don't recall The Doctor flailing the sonic screwdriver about then look at it as if it had a screen in the RTD era. The closest would maybe be if he's using it to locate something. Anyway, whenever it was used in the RTD era it felt natural and its use was limited, The Doctor would often use other devices to accomplish tasks, something I don't believe has happened in quite a while (still have to watch series 6 and 7 to refresh my memory).
[QUOTE=Freeze;44968088]This has only happened twice if I recall correctly. Not exactly overused, I'd agree slightly silly but not overused. Saying 'fat bloke loves average looking chick' is just stupid though, love isn't 100% based on looks unless you're really shallow. The leaf thing isn't really anything to do with love. RTD has done the same sort of thing before.[/quote]
By love/thought I didn't mean to be specific, I meant anything related to it, that includes the magic leaf. The following are episodes that I remember relies on the power of love/thought trope:
The Lodger
The Big Bang
A Christmas Carol (Done right IMO, changing someones personality rather than "magic stuff happens")
Night Terrors
Closing Time
The Wedding of River Song
The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe
The Snowmen
The Rings of Akhaten
[QUOTE=Freeze;44968088]If you don't like time related plot devices I think you're watching the wrong television. The entire premise of the show is the fact that the Doctor is a time-travelling alien.[/quote]
In the past time travel has for the most part, only served as a means of transport from one place in time to another, there was none of this "wibbly wobbly, timey wimey" sorts out all our problems nonsense. The Doctor used to be more like a detective that just happened to travel in space and time.
[QUOTE=Freeze;44968088]If you honestly believe this sort of thing started happening in Moffat's era you're crazy. Look at the end of the End of Time, Journey's End/Stolen Earth, the dalek in the middle of the Waters of Mars etc.[/quote]
Yeah, I suppose the end of series 4 could be considered fanwank, but it wasn't as bad as Moffats finals. All the characters were well written and had their part to play. Moffat just throws a bunch of past enemies together and hopes the fangasming fans will be distracted from the shoddy writing. Just look at the parts the Weeping Angels and Sontarans played in The Time of The Doctor, A Weeping Angel grabbed Clara's foot, not even sending her back in time and the bumbling Sontarans who got blown up.
You seriously consider that few seconds long clip of the Dalek in The Waters of Mars fanwank? It wasn't even long enough to get a stiffy. If you consider that fanwank then what must you make of all the references to past Doctors, companions, adventures, etc?
[QUOTE=Freeze;44968088]Once again, companions are a key part of the show and if they weren't part of the plot it wouldn't be the same show. The same thing happened in the RTD era. Maybe the reason people are 'anti-you' is because you're not a very nice person? People don't generally like mean people.[/quote]
I think you've maybe misunderstood me. I was talking about the contrived reasons for companions (Clara specifically) ending up with The Doctor and being a mystery for The Doctor.
[QUOTE=Freeze;44968088]It's almost as if he wanted it to be a fun and interesting episode? Same sort of thing happened in the RTD era.[/quote]
Matter of opinion I suppose. It's just the way Moffat goes about things, seems wrong to me, the whole tone of the show changed after The Lodger and I don't like it. It feels like the show doesn't take itself serious anymore, anything goes. The writing at times feels like fanfic.
[QUOTE=Freeze;44968088]I'd agree that is a bit silly but it's an extremely minor point over an entire era. Especially as Rory never was properly killed so it didn't need the impact. The impact was from them leaving the Doctor not them dying. Once again the same sort of thing happened with RTD. Rose left and came back quite a few times.[/quote]
Since Rose left and didn't actually "die", her return felt a lot more believable. The Doctor didn't even explain why Rory returned, saying it was the closest thing to a miracle he ever seen and that miracles are rare but can happen, a load of fairytale nonsense. In Cold Blood Rory didn't just "die", he was "erased from history" and "never existed", that has far more impact than dieing or just leaving The Doctor. Moffat just had to fuck up the impact of that scene by bringing Rory back, from that point onwards it's impossible to get emotionally invested in Moffats stories as there is a strong possibility that it will be undone. He also pulled the same stunt multiple times with Clara.
[QUOTE=Nasal_Spray;44969046]I don't recall The Doctor flailing the sonic screwdriver about then look at it as if it had a screen in the RTD era. The closest would maybe be if he's using it to locate something. Anyway, whenever it was used in the RTD era it felt natural and its use was limited, The Doctor would often use other devices to accomplish tasks, something I don't believe has happened in quite a while (still have to watch series 6 and 7 to refresh my memory).[/QUOTE]How many times has the 11th Doctor used his screwdriver to do more than locate or get into something? Like, twice? Or even once? And the time I'm thinking of it wasn't even a Moffat script.
[QUOTE=Nasal_Spray;44969046]By love/thought I didn't mean to be specific, I meant anything related to it, that includes the magic leaf. The following are episodes that I remember relies on the power of love/thought trope:
The Lodger
The Big Bang
A Christmas Carol (Done right IMO, changing someones personality rather than "magic stuff happens")
Night Terrors
Closing Time
The Wedding of River Song
The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe
The Snowmen
The Rings of Akhaten[/QUOTE]Not including the one done right only half of those are Moffat episodes. That's four out of what, twenty? And overall including other writers it's like seven out of forty. Not exactly a huge amount, especially considering most people are fine with that sort of stuff.
[QUOTE=Nasal_Spray;44969046]In the past time travel has for the most part, only served as a means of transport from one place in time to another, there was none of this "wibbly wobbly, timey wimey" sorts out all our problems nonsense. The Doctor used to be more like a detective that just happened to travel in space and time.[/QUOTE]Oh you mean like when the Doctor used someone that'd been sent into the past to get a message to someone in the future so the Doctor and Martha didn't have to live there themselves?
Or like when they stopped the Master's wrong doings by sending the earth back a year in time?
Or when they used time travel to save future Madame de Pompadour so everything would be alright?
Nah, RTD's era never used time travel to sort out problems at all.
[QUOTE=Nasal_Spray;44969046]Yeah, I suppose the end of series 4 could be considered fanwank, but it wasn't as bad as Moffats finals. All the characters were well written and had their part to play. Moffat just throws a bunch of past enemies together and hopes the fangasming fans will be distracted from the shoddy writing. Just look at the parts the Weeping Angels and Sontarans played in The Time of The Doctor, A Weeping Angel grabbed Clara's foot, not even sending her back in time and the bumbling Sontarans who got blown up.[/QUOTE]That's because he's spending time developing the characters in those episodes rather than the villains. It's hardly shoddy writing.
(It's also only happened twice! Not exactly enough to ruin the series)
[QUOTE=Nasal_Spray;44969046]You seriously consider that few seconds long clip of the Dalek in The Waters of Mars fanwank? It wasn't even long enough to get a stiffy. If you consider that fanwank then what must you make of all the references to past Doctors, companions, adventures, etc?[/QUOTE]No, I don't. Because I don't use the term 'fanwank' cause I don't think there's anything wrong with going back to the past and 'fanwank' is obviously a negative term.
But a lot of the people that do dislike that sort of stuff do consider it 'fanwank' as to some it felt like they were just sticking a Dalek in there just to have a Dalek in there.
[QUOTE=Nasal_Spray;44969046]I think you've maybe misunderstood me. I was talking about the contrived reasons for companions (Clara specifically) ending up with The Doctor and being a mystery for The Doctor.[/QUOTE]Oh, you mean exactly like Donna?
[QUOTE=Nasal_Spray;44969046]Since Rose left and didn't actually "die", her return felt a lot more believable. The Doctor didn't even explain why Rory returned, saying it was the closest thing to a miracle he ever seen and that miracles are rare but can happen, a load of fairytale nonsense. In Cold Blood Rory didn't just "die", he was "erased from history" and "never existed", that has far more impact than dieing or just leaving The Doctor. Moffat just had to fuck up the impact of that scene by bringing Rory back, from that point onwards it's impossible to get emotionally invested in Moffats stories as there is a strong possibility that it will be undone.[/QUOTE]What? Rose did 'die'. In the Parting of the Ways it looked very clearly that she was dead. Does that ruin the impact of that scene? No, it doesn't.
[QUOTE=Nasal_Spray;44969046]He also pulled the same stunt multiple times with Clara.[/QUOTE]Clara's entire arc is about her dying multiple times and the version of her that dies stays dead. She isn't brought back, there's just multiples of her.
Also, overall all the stuff you're saying only accounts for nine or ten episodes out of about forty? That means the other three quarters are presumably good? You're nit picking. I'm not gonna reply to any of your other comments on this subject as it's a waste of my time and yours, but seriously dude you gotta open your eyes a bit and look past the small amount of what you dislike and look at the bigger picture.
Good news, [url=http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/01/article-2645341-1E2A3D1F00000578-494_634x830.jpg]the flop is almost back to full strength.[/URL] But Matt had to pull out of Soccer Aid due to injury. : (
[QUOTE=Freeze;44969331]How many times has the 11th Doctor used his screwdriver to do more than locate or get into something? Like, twice? Or even once? And the time I'm thinking of it wasn't even a Moffat script.[/QUOTE]
Don't know, still have to watch the last two series. Like I said in a post in this thread a while ago, even when the sonic screwdriver could be used right, [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=44351120#post44351120"]it's used in entirely the wrong way[/URL]. Doesn't matter if the script's written by Moffat or another writer, it's his responsibility to ensure the scripts are up to an acceptable standard and make changes accordingly.
[QUOTE=Freeze;44969331]Not including the one done right only half of those are Moffat episodes. That's four out of what, twenty? And overall including other writers it's like seven out of forty. Not exactly a huge amount, especially considering most people are fine with that sort of stuff.[/QUOTE]
So just because a large minority of episodes involve the bad kind of the power of love/thought I should just ignore them and not complain about them? Maybe in another TV show, but not in Doctor Who. I expect sciency sounding explanations and not magic/inadequate explanations.
[QUOTE=Freeze;44969331]Oh you mean like when the Doctor used someone that'd been sent into the past to get a message to someone in the future so the Doctor and Martha didn't have to live there themselves?
Or like when they stopped the Master's wrong doings by sending the earth back a year in time?
Or when they used time travel to save future Madame de Pompadour so everything would be alright?
Nah, RTD's era never used time travel to sort out problems at all.[/QUOTE]
It was used so rarely in RTDs era that it was a novelty. Also the quality of writing was far better back then and RTD was around to keep Moffat in check (two of the episodes you mentioned were written by Moffat). Blink is another one of my favourite episodes, so Moffat is a capable writer when he's not running things.
[QUOTE=Freeze;44969331]That's because he's spending time developing the characters in those episodes rather than the villains. It's hardly shoddy writing.
(It's also only happened twice! Not exactly enough to ruin the series)[/QUOTE]
There's between 6 and 13 episodes (fuck the split series) to develop characters, the finals should be about the enemies and The Doctor + Companions efforts to stop them. Also why can't characters be developed while still providing us with a final containing well written and thought out antagonists.
[QUOTE=Freeze;44969331]Oh, you mean exactly like Donna?[/QUOTE]
OK, I'll give you that. But at least the mystery of why she was pulled into the TARDIS was solved in one episode and wasn't made into a story arc affecting the "filler" adventures of The Doctor and companion.
[QUOTE=Freeze;44969331]What? Rose did 'die'. In the Parting of the Ways it looked very clearly that she was dead. Does that ruin the impact of that scene? No, it doesn't.[/QUOTE]
I don't remember Rose "dieing" in The Parting of the Ways, do you mean when Rose gets zapped by the Anne Droid in Bad Wolf? It was made clear very quickly that the beam transports people instead of disintegrating them.
[QUOTE=Freeze;44969331]Also, overall all the stuff you're saying only accounts for nine or ten episodes out of about forty? That means the other three quarters are presumably good? You're nit picking. I'm not gonna reply to any of your other comments on this subject as it's a waste of my time and yours, but seriously dude you gotta open your eyes a bit and look past the small amount of what you dislike and look at the bigger picture.[/QUOTE]
So if there was an episode involving The Doctor traveling to the teletubbie planet, killing them and raping their dead bodies before destroying the planet to hide his crimes, would you be OK with that given everything was back on track the following episode?
Glad to hear you won't be replying to this post. You're right, it is a waste of our time, I'm getting fed up wasting my day defending my views on a forum that doesn't and never will agree with them.
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[QUOTE=Nasal_Spray;44969966] I'm getting fed up wasting my day defending my views on a forum that doesn't and never will agree with them.[/QUOTE]
Welcome to the Internet, enjoy your stay :v:
[QUOTE=Grizz;44970210]Welcome to the Internet, enjoy your stay :v:[/QUOTE][I]The place where people compare a few minor dislikes of a tv show to killing and raping children's television show characters![/I]
I still don't understand how Nasal_Spray didn't care for the fact that when Rory came back he was an Auton and the reason I think it was in his image because there were cracks in time, thus throwing the entirety of the universe out of whack, thus allowing Rory to once again exist.
[QUOTE=Grizz;44967455]The writer of The Lodger, perhaps?
The show's most successful writer isn't going to be sacked any time soon. His status as showrunner was only elevated last year - he'll be leaving when he likes.
Best Doctor Who trailer
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO78rRjE7Og[/media][/QUOTE]
well if we count that as a trailer then i liked those bbc ident interrupts
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgXqwZeYsuc[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrGcME6dv6A[/url]
the actual best trailer is the 50 years one
got everyone hyped without actually spoiling anything from the special (in the same way the current teaser does)
I keep randomly finding myself here, I was supposed to find the headphone megathread :v:
Well
[img]http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sixth-eighth-doctor-space-mcgann-baker.jpg[/img]
It looks like Colin is getting thinner. Maybe there's a chance he'll appear in a short being the 6th doctor again in the same way Peter Davison came back as the 5th doctor during Tennant's run.
I think Colin, out of all the past Doctors, has the least likely chance to return. He looks the least like his old self and is one of the least popular Doctors.
[QUOTE=Freeze;44973171]I think Colin, out of all the past Doctors, has the least likely chance to return. He looks the least like his old self and is one of the least popular Doctors.[/QUOTE]
But on the other hand, he always seems like the one who's most up for doing it.
[QUOTE=CoolCorky;44973239]But on the other hand, he always seems like the one who's most up for doing it.[/QUOTE]He's the most desperate. :v:
(I love him really)
[QUOTE=SoUl_ReApEr2;44960145]As soon as me and my girlfriend have finish Breaking Bad, I think I might persuade her to watch doctor who from the McGann movie till 10's regen as that's all I have so far, 9th doctor and 10th doctor on dvd.[/QUOTE]
From someone who's introduced Doctor Who to many many different people over last few years I'd highly recommend you start with Rose and not the TV movie. I've never succeeded getting someone into Doctor Who with anything other than Rose. There's something about it that eases the "not-we" into it and explains everything well and attaches them to the characters better.
Of course I don't know your girlfriend but I've started with folks ranging from an ADD 12 year-old(Which I would've thought Eleventh Hour would've caught his attention but no, got him with Rose.) to older folks. It's been my proven method.
(I started with "The Ark in Space" and "The Invasion of Time" around or slightly before the new series began. And I didn't even know about the new series until it was about to air in the US for the first time.)
somebody i know said "i'm done with this show until they get a female show writer" as if that will inherently make the show better
lol
[QUOTE=Freeze;44972262]the actual best trailer is the 50 years one
got everyone hyped without actually spoiling anything from the special (in the same way the current teaser does)[/QUOTE]
when will bbc release the fucking music from it though
[QUOTE=Freeze;44973171]I think Colin, out of all the past Doctors, has the least likely chance to return. He looks the least like his old self and is one of the least popular Doctors.[/QUOTE]
hartnell troughton and pertwee now look nothing like they did back then
[QUOTE=Big Ben;44974601]somebody i know said "i'm done with this show until they get a female show writer" as if that will inherently make the show better
lol[/QUOTE]
Did this person think Moffat was sexist for the way her write?
The only qualm I have about any of his female characters was Claras underuse and shallowness for 7b. But that was clearly out of his hands as the whole thing was kind of rushed faster than he had anticipated when he lost Matt wasn't it? To be honest the episodes where he wrote Clara were fleshier and more interesting than when anybody else wrote Clara. River Song isn't poorly written, I just don't like her.
[QUOTE=snotface;44981527]hartnell troughton and pertwee now look nothing like they did back then[/QUOTE]
Lies!
Pertwee is eternal!
Hoping for a new title sequence when the next series starts.
[editline]3rd June 2014[/editline]
I really don't care for the latest one.
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