[QUOTE=evlbzltyr;45456284]One of the things my sister didn't like about the past few series of DW is that it was all too fairytale-y for her (just for clarification, I don't necessarily agree with her, it's just her opinion :v:). So a more serious tone will hopefully get her - and presumably everyone else who felt that way - to like it again.[/QUOTE]
I agree, however, it was a nice change to the pacing of Tennant's run. The fairytale theme also complements Matt Smith's acting and I wouldn't go back in time to change it (ha, geddit). It suits him, as will a darker tone for Capaldi, which is the impression I am getting from the trailer.
However, I have to say there's one thing I miss from Moffat's run:
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[del]Karen[/del]Peter and the Babes
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[QUOTE=GussGriswold;45458637]However, I have to say there's one thing I miss from Moffat's run:
[img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fiSkfWVtkpo/Uh6aY9FxPqI/AAAAAAAACOU/Wv60fNNESto/s1600/DA_Master_close_up.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
where is the "jesus christ how horrifying" rating
A bit of a random tangent but I don't think some people realize how good RTD and Moffat are. Show running Doctor Who is a lot harder than it looks and I fear for the day when Moffat leaves because I don't know if there's currently anyone else other than RTD and him that can do it as well as it's been done.
[QUOTE=TheRealRudy;45460250]At this point I'm so heavily traumatized that I see this picture when I sleep.[/QUOTE]
Y'all are afraid of this and those gasmask people from Eccleston times, what cowards.
I'm never watching that fucking Statue of Liberty episode ever again tho, fuck that.
[QUOTE=Freeze;45460673]A bit of a random tangent but I don't think some people realize how good RTD and Moffat are. Show running Doctor Who is a lot harder than it looks and I fear for the day when Moffat leaves because I don't know if there's currently anyone else other than RTD and him that can do it as well as it's been done.[/QUOTE]
I don't like RTD's era at all. He doesn't really know how to write characters properly and when they start to become fantastic in the show, they get written off. Moffat at least knows how to do character development.
[QUOTE=GussGriswold;45458637]However, I have to say there's one thing I miss from Moffat's run:
[img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fiSkfWVtkpo/Uh6aY9FxPqI/AAAAAAAACOU/Wv60fNNESto/s1600/DA_Master_close_up.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
We need to stream The Deadly Assassin for Halloween or something at this point.
[QUOTE=Freeze;45460673]A bit of a random tangent but I don't think some people realize how good RTD and Moffat are. Show running Doctor Who is a lot harder than it looks and I fear for the day when Moffat leaves because I don't know if there's currently anyone else other than RTD and him that can do it as well as it's been done.[/QUOTE]
Whenever somebody says MOFFAT SHOULD GO HE'S TERRIBLE AT EVERYTHING, I make sure to ask them who they think can plausibly take over and do better. In the end, they don't seem to have an answer.
[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;45461903]I don't like RTD's era at all. He doesn't really know how to write characters properly and when they start to become fantastic in the show, they get written off. Moffat at least knows how to do character development.[/QUOTE]Well, except departures.
[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;45461903]I don't like RTD's era at all. He doesn't really know how to write characters properly and when they start to become fantastic in the show, they get written off. Moffat at least knows how to do character development.[/QUOTE]I disagree heavily. When he tried to write character development people just said 'no that's wrong' (eg Ten in the End of Time, Rose loving the Doctor and vice versa, etc)
I don't know about anyone else but the character development from what I seen of the shows original run seems a lot worse than in the revival era of the show. Times like in The Waters of Mars where [sp]The Doctor throws out the rulebook[/sp] would of never happened in its original run.
[QUOTE=Freeze;45465472]I disagree heavily. When he tried to write character development people just said 'no that's wrong' (eg Ten in the End of Time, Rose loving the Doctor and vice versa, etc)[/QUOTE]
Exactly, because he did it wrong. People usually don't say that when Moffat does character development, because it's usually less shoehorned.
[QUOTE=GussGriswold;45466031]Exactly, because he did it wrong. People usually don't say that when Moffat does character development, because it's usually less shoehorned.[/QUOTE]How was it wrong?
[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;45461903]I don't like RTD's era at all. He doesn't really know how to write characters properly and when they start to become fantastic in the show, they get written off. [B]Moffat at least knows how to do character development.[/B][/QUOTE]
Is this a joke? Moffat's great strength is thinking of amazing, mindfuckery timey wimey plots. He's not so good at characters or their development (s7 Clara is a joke "m-muh impossible girl")
RTD was so great at writing characters but wasn't so good at the plots (Rose and her family are pretty well written, Aliens of London/World War Three/Boom Town [aka: dinner in bondage] are a fucking joke)
completely possible that that's just some special vfx shots being outsourced (it is)
[QUOTE=GussGriswold;45458637]However, I have to say there's one thing I miss from Moffat's run:
[img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fiSkfWVtkpo/Uh6aY9FxPqI/AAAAAAAACOU/Wv60fNNESto/s1600/DA_Master_close_up.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
I've just become desensitised by it
[QUOTE=Freeze;45467528]completely possible that that's just some special vfx shots being outsourced (it is)[/QUOTE]
Aw boo, I could've gone to watch me some filming. :<
Oh well, I'll cheer myself up with the Doctor dancing:
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I am so sorry for having so much cheer.
[I]Rocking it for centuries[/I]
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[QUOTE=Freeze;45467528]completely possible that that's just some special vfx shots being outsourced (it is)[/QUOTE]
Are you allowed to say what company it's being outsourced to? I know Milk are doing the majority of it.
[QUOTE=Acezorz;45470516]Are you allowed to say what company it's being outsourced to? I know Milk are doing the majority of it.[/QUOTE]I don't know what the company is sadly. I know why it had to be outsourced though but I'm not going to say why. :v:
I'll take a guess.
Missed deadlines?
Over budget?
Better bid from another company?
Work was shit?
No, it's a good reason.
[QUOTE=Drewsko;45462691]We need to stream The Deadly Assassin for Halloween or something at this point.[/QUOTE]
Can we do it with a voice chat so you guys can hear me suffer from a heart attack?
[QUOTE=Freeze;45471695]No, it's a good reason.[/QUOTE]
That's good, I like the work that they do.
I'm hoping that Capaldi's going to make an appearance at the opening ceremony of the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow tonight.
Moffat's series preview in SFX...
[URL="http://www.sfx.co.uk/2014/07/23/sfx-issue-251-on-sale-now/"]SFX Covers[/URL]
[QUOTE]Deep Breath: "It's a huge introductory show. What if your best friend was somebody else? It's really about Clara trying to cope with that - and whether or not she even likes who he is, mixed in with a truly terrifying monster."
2. "We've done a really good Dalek one by saying they're nasty. It's actually quite a gritty Dalek adventure. We go without question into the most dangerous place in the universe - the last place the Doctor should be, and you will know that by the end of the pre-titles."
3. It's the Doctor meets Robin Hood. And it's about being a hero. The Doctor's going through a period of his life where he's worrying about whether he counts as a good man. It's very, very funny. Everything you want in a good Robin Hood is going to be there."
4. "A complete departure for me in terms of writing Doctor Who. A tiny guest cast, no CGI. It's the story of a date and the Doctor having what appears to be a mild nervous breakdown. There's a little germ of Coupling in it. It's actually quite a scary one. I sometimes wonder: "What does the Doctor do when there's nothing going on? Does he go and find something to poke a stick at?" Of course he must. Essentially it's downtime for the Doctor. But don't worry, it involves a monster."
5. "It's like a heist movie done with Doctor Who. It's got a cracking monster in it, one of Neill Gorton's finest creations. And Keeley Hawes."
6. "An absolute hoot of an episode with some surprisingly serious bits in it. If you did know somebody like the Doctor and you did think it was okay to slip away with him, what effect would that have on your life? What would that do to the people around you? I sit and watch this one to cheer myself up. I suppose it's not unlike The Lodger in certain respects."
7. "Proper drama. With monsters and all the Doctor Who stuff that you could want. It's probably quite a big statement of where we are now with the show. This might be where you can argue that the new approach is, for the first time, seen uncluttered by any of the old approach. It's very strong. And there's a callback to a past episode. Sort of. You'll see."
8. "Brilliant script. Brilliant idea for a monster. It looks stunning in a very glamorous way. And it has Foxes singing. There's a callback to something from Matt's first series. Sometimes I play a long game. And sometimes I just think "We never actually tied that off...shall we just go and sort that now?" Usually because I think it would be incredibly funny. I like the idea that the Doctor takes that long. "Yes, I'll be there in a moment..." Several years later..."
9. "It's a horror story. It starts off with a very .... idea and becomes really quite frightening by the end. A scary one. A proper scary one with one of our best ever sight gags in it. It runs throughout the episode and the climax of this particular gag, I think, is just glorious. I remember reading it out at the readthrough and everyone was just clapping and cheering at Jamie Mathieson's idea."
10. It's a beautiful script; it's really lyrical and poetic, and boldly so. A fairytale, but not in the sense that I've tended to write a fairytale. Heartfelt, eloquent, quite, quite different. The main visual idea is so clever. I think it's going to be a stunner.
11-12. "The finale. Quite a strong emotional story to this. It's about Clara and the Doctor and the fact that the way they interact might not be healthy for everyone around them. That sounds very bleak but don't worry, there's lots of nonsense in it too. It's high octane action adventure, with Cybermen. And some proper UNIT stuff." [/QUOTE]
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