Doctor Who - Speculation and Spoilers Series 9 - General

[QUOTE=Freeze;45619694]Those are the credits and I'm pretty sure the credits are quite different compared to the titles.[/QUOTE] They are. I just remembered what is in the titles, too. Ha. Brilliant. I had a direct sight line to Moffat throughout, so nothing tag-worthy to be seen here until the 23rd. Capaldi started a Happy Birthday fanfare for a Q&A'er :v: He stopped to sign things right in front of me - will post pics when I'm home. They arrived late so were starting to be rushed through. Jenna was almost dragged past us. Capaldi and Sam Anderson both signed and the latter was sat in the audience. Didn't think he would be here!

jealous as fuck

[QUOTE=Grizz;45619757]They are. I just remembered what is in the titles, too. Ha. Brilliant. I had a direct sight line to Moffat throughout, so nothing tag-worthy to be seen here until the 23rd. Capaldi started a Happy Birthday fanfare for a Q&A'er :v: He stopped to sign things right in front of me - will post pics when I'm home. They arrived late so were starting to be rushed through. Jenna was almost dragged past us. Capaldi and Sam Anderson both signed and the latter was sat in the audience. Didn't think he would be here![/QUOTE] Spoiler free review! [editline]7th August 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;45619663]Are you fucking shitting me? [url]http://www.bbcshop.com/doctor-who/doctor-who-deep-breath-dvd/invt/bbcdvd3998[/url][/QUOTE] Somebody make a GIF of Moffat with Capaldi as money floods out of his mouth and Moffat beams "IT PRINTS MONEY" like the Nintendo DS GIF of old.

Soon. [QUOTE]Streets were lined, autographs were signed, and the moment Peter Capaldi entered the room, it might just have made One Direction turn around and remark "that was a bit loud".[/QUOTE]

I'm gonna post a spoiler free review of Engines of War. About halfway through so far. It's well good. Picks up on plot points from both Genesis of the Daleks and The Five Doctors. Lots of classic series, RTD era and Moffat Era references all over the place. It's a story for the big fans. It's great. More War Doctor!

12 did a little movement which we have seen Capaldi do many times before... and the theatre erupt in to applause. It wasn't eyebrow related. But the reaction was funny.

[QUOTE=Grizz;45620354]12 did a little movement which we have seen Capaldi do many times before... and the theatre erupt in to applause. It wasn't eyebrow related. But the reaction was funny.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE][IMG]http://media.giphy.com/media/AweJQY7DSYmdy/giphy.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://asset-9.soup.io/asset/4768/9089_9247.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://24.media.tumblr.com/9081e0f9b7dffee70bc914f6ca64f9e5/tumblr_mpkxahfEgE1rsxo3uo1_250.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE] Any of these?

Got closest to Capaldi out of all of them outside. Lizo Mzimba second. Got a picture on phone of PC leaning over me as I duck out of people's way :v:

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I will... when I can :v: Coming up on BBC news. Some new-new clips, too. Listen out for the 'carer' line. EDIT: Ah, they didn't show it in full. Oh well. Capaldi will be on BBC Breakfast tomorrow. ** Lizo came to the rescue [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-28690462[/url] [QUOTE][tomorrow] It'll be a longer version of my interview with him. Will probably be a teeny bit more of him and Clara too. Here's tonight's story for those who are interested.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheRealRudy;45621501][video=youtube;7rvpElcXUi8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rvpElcXUi8[/video][/quote] "She cares so I don't have to." That sounded so much like Malcolm Tucker I think I just creamed.

[QUOTE=Acezorz;45621734]"She cares so I don't have to." That sounded so much like Malcolm Tucker I think I just creamed.[/QUOTE] Capaldi said Tucker's wit is in 12 at the Q&A.

Good to know - that scene in The Thick of It series 4 where Tucker does that speech in the inquiry was amazing. And it was completely without swearing.

Tyres from spaced in the background!

Question: If you could travel back to any time period..... Capaldi: Ancient Rome *theatre erupts* He also insisted on Peter - no Mr. Capaldi allowed. [QUOTE][img]https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t1.0-9/10574454_798391120181308_2150152893905603586_n.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

Can we at least hear whether the Paternose Gang will get their new sonic devices in Deep Breath? That doesn't seem like a major spoiler.

I have written out a bit of a review, but I feel I should put it in tags anyway... enjoy this block of black. [sp]Deep Breath Spoiler-Free Review I thought it was best that I give it the rest of the day before posting a more substantial review. First, a mention of the event itself. After spending three minutes in the presence Peter Capaldi - mostly at a strange angle as I duck to make way for overhead pieces of card - after spending two hours with Americans, Canadians, Germans and Australians on the rails, before watching Deep Breath and the Q&A session, I left the theatre on a massive high. Moffat and Jenna were both hurried by but said hello and Sam Anderson made a low-key approach from the rear. The crowds thinned out by the time he reached us - poor chap. At least it guaranteed an autograph! :p But I had no idea he would be there. I even caught him taking his place in the audience before being highlighted by Moffat later on. That was a cool bonus. Capaldi is still as much of a gent as we have seen throughout his journey since being announced. Despite arriving late and being rushed through by bodymen, he criss-crossed down the lane spending more time with everyone than the others. He wasn't going anywhere until everyone got a reasonably good look at the new Doctor. The crowds went crazy for him - outside and inside the hall. His first appearance on stage and on screen got the same reaction. Key characters moments got cheers and the laughter kept on coming. As Zoe Ball once said - it's safe to say we liked him. His leading a chorus of Happy Birthday to an audience member was the icing on the cake... that was until a very young fan was brought down from the upper tiers to get an autograph on stage. Lovely, lovely stuff. *** There are three big things in play throughout the episode. The Doctor's search for himself. Clara's adapatation to 12 - which he doesn't make easy. Then the main plot which I won't go in to in much detail. The idea behind it is sound and a certain mechanic makes for some rather tense scenes. Though I kept willing for it to go a little more sinister - even afer a scene which makes for some grotesque mental imagery. Then I remembered this was Doctor Who and not Game of Thrones and all was well. But to me, this took a necessary back seat to the man of the hour. As you might expect, The Doctor we see at the start of the episode is the same man we briefly meet at the end of Time of The Doctor. A lot of room for humor here. A lot of observational quips and back-and-forth as Clara tries to keep a bewildered new man under control. But it's not in the same vein as walking in to walls, slapping himself and eating fish custard. As have been mentioned, the longer scenes give us more time to see 12 go through the motions. He finds some interesting ways to occupy his time as he finishes 'cooking.' Any concerns that he has forgotton Trenzalore are soon dispatched. Deep Breath spends a lot of time with Clara and surprisingly, given Capaldi's build up, I'm very thankful for this. Jenna is better than she has ever been - in only the first episode filmed with Capaldi. Her grief for 11 and her indecision over 12 are only part of the story. Clara described herself as a bossy control freak in Time and Moffat starts to really deliver on this in some surpringly touching sequences as she finds herself with a brand new, unpredictable man. There are themes of appearance, age and prejudice which come to a head in a superb scene with Vastra which contains a brilliant succession of lines which I really want to share but..... I can't and won't. Speaking of Vastra (sorry, I'll be back with 12 soon), the paternoster gang are in full swing and get a fair amount of screen time between them. I fully expect some of their moments to translate much better with a large audience than at home - though I hope that some of Strax's gags (love them or loathe them up to now) get a chuckle. He takes home one of the funniest moments of the episodes in an otherwise very tense standoff. Vastra and Jenny lend much more time to their relationship than in previous episodes and all three share private conversations with Clara as she tries to find her place. I don't think Deep Breath will win over many new fans of Paternoster, and there are one or too moments which may seem a little forced, but on the whole they are the transitionary team. A home base of sorts - for Clara more than The Doctor. Now, Peter Capaldi's 12th Doctor. Inhabiting the wit of Malcolm Tucker (as Peter himself admitted) and traits which have permeated many incarnations before him. There has been a lot of speculation about a "dark" Doctor and an "unlikeable" Doctor. But Moffat put it best when he said that he's no longer flirting with you. 11's willingness to please is highlighted here as 12's more brutally honest persona grows as the episode goes on. An alien madness whirls behind his eyes. From an audience POV, 12 was highly entertaining. Funny, not out of slapstick but out of naivety and and quick wit. The recently released snippit from episode 2 gives you a good idea of this: The Doctor: This is Clara, she's my... not assistant, what's another word... Clara: Carer. The Doctor: Carer, yes! She's my carer. She cares so I don't have to. [QUOTE]Sometimes he's not even trying to be funny, his alien mindset is in full effect and his logic is flawless - he doesn't even try to see things from a human point of view so alot of his humor can seem a bit random but hits the sweet spot so those scenes come across as genius instead of just daft.[/QUOTE] You know that he DOES care, very much - about our safety, but he won't be quick to show it. But it's not all for laughs. It's not long before that inner madness and confusion bubbles to the surface. When it arrives in force in a later scene... wow, goosebumps. It's exactly what I wanted to see from Capaldi right out of the gate. You will know the snarl when you see it. Before all of that though, his hyped up unpredictability gets an early look-in, culminating in a sequence which really turns the tables. His delivery turns words on a page to magic on the screen. Oh, I sound like a film critic. Deep Breath is littered with beautiful moments. It's sharp, funny, touching and tells the story of two very different people trying to find how they fit together again. I really think more could have been done with the villains of the piece - but Ben Wheatley serves up a fine offering. The reintroduction of the TARDIS is a great little moment including one of many throwbacks to the past. Some more curious than others... Moffat still has things left to do. I want to watch it again, very much so... but I also want to see how 12/Clara develop in future episodes. I have never been more excited for a duo in the 2005 series. They really do play so well off eachother for two very different looking people. Moffat gets a lot of stick for putting plot before characters - but if he is able to stick with the balance he found here, encouraging other writers to do the same - I think he is going to make a lot of people very happy with Series 8. It has a focus which needs to stick around. The score also takes a bit of a rejig. Some people say the score doesn't affect an episode. I think it does - massively. 'I Am The Doctor' is no more and many more quieter and ticking pieces litter the episode, though you can still expect a bombastic flourish when you usually find it. But it *felt* different. Whether it was Moffat, Capaldi, Gold or Wheately - it felt like we were some way away from Series 7. I look forward to seeing and hearing it all again - at an appropriate angle - on TV. It looked like a great piece of cinematography. Some great direction at play throughout the set pieces and the quiet moments. Perhaps it wasn't a perfect 10. But in the grand trandition of Doctor Who fans rating everything - Deep Breath would get a comfortable 9 on first viewing. An almost understated debut which puts 12 and Clara... Peter and Jenna.. in the spotlight. For me at least, Doctor Who appears to be in very safe hands after a shaky seventh series. The Capaldi casting is finally solidified as a golden decision. Perhaps this is all different from what you naughty leak-watchers thought. Perhaps I have said a lot of nothing here, but that's pretty much expected when you can't talk about specifics :p Perhaps my initial view will change when the live audience disappears, when Moffat & Faith Penhale disappears and the promise of an audience with Capaldi disappears. We will see. But I really do doubt it. An entertaining 75 minutes with lots to love. Elisabeth Sladen's husband shares one the best scenes with Capaldi. You won't miss it. It will include the word 'cold.' Having signed the National Moffaty Secrets Act, I can't talk about anything else. Not even that bit. Or that bit. Or that bit. That's new. Phil Ford... you're up![/sp] *** Thank you Peter, Jenna, Sam, Steven & everyone from BBC Worldwide and St David's Hall. I didn't believe I would ever get the chance to be a part of this - at such an exciting time, too. Peter Capaldi is officially my first real-world glimpse of The Doctor... and he delivers. [QUOTE=Drewsko;45623575]Can we at least hear whether the Paternose Gang will get their new sonic devices in Deep Breath? That doesn't seem like a major spoiler.[/QUOTE] [sp]Yep.[/sp] [QUOTE]And, seemingly at every chance he found, Peter couldn’t praise his co-star Jenna enough. “I feel like I’m a terrible gushing chap,” he explained. “Jenna has been absolutely incredible. My favourite thing about joining Doctor Who has been working with Jenna. She does everything with such grace and class.”[/QUOTE]

Nice review. Did Moffat also confirm at the event that Jenna is sticking around for Christmas too?

[QUOTE=Dan2593;45624087]Nice review. Did Moffat also confirm at the event that Jenna is sticking around for Christmas too?[/QUOTE] Yes - on Radio Wales. Unless he was lying.

I think we would've learned by now if Jenna was leaving Doctor Who

[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;45624226]I think we would've learned by now if Jenna was leaving Doctor Who[/QUOTE] Nope. It can stay speculation up until the moment they do or a couple of episodes before.

I'm actually looking forward to Capaldi after those clips. I was already, but even more so now. Is it like nearly two weeks left?

Independent: [url]http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/reviews/doctor-who-deep-breath-bfi-southbank-tv-review-peter-capaldis-doctor-may-just-be-the-best-yet-9655675.html[/url] Radio Times: [url]http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-08-08/peter-capaldi-is-an-absolute-gentleman--and-a-brilliant-new-doctor-who[/url] RT is a glowing review of the man. Should be featured on BBC Breakfast again imminently.

[QUOTE]"We’ve only just done the 50th! After the huge fuss over 50 years of Doctor Who, I think it’s time to settle down and move forwards. So we’re not planning a special… unless I’m lying"[/QUOTE][B]-Moffat on the 10th Anniversary[/B]

Michael Smiley in 'Into the Dalek' <33333333333333

[QUOTE=Freeze;45628672][QUOTE]"We’ve only just done the 50th! After the huge fuss over 50 years of Doctor Who, I think it’s time to settle down and move forwards. So we’re not planning a special… unless I’m lying"[/QUOTE][B]-Moffat on the 10th Anniversary[/B][/QUOTE] MOFFAT! [IMG]http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-argh.gif[/IMG]

I only want a 10th so I can have the excitement of another multi-doctor and potential Eccleston/more Hurt. But otherwise I think it's too close to the 50th. Besides the two strands of the show shouldn't have separate anniversaries. Clara's mum died on the date Rose broadcast so if Clara is still around come Series 9 we could have a story a bit like Fathers Day where Clara visits her mum before she died. So it's open for a potential reference. A special isn't needed.

as much as a 10th would be good, i doubt eccleston would do it, he doesn't seem as if he enjoys it that much.

[QUOTE=Marzipas;45629283]as much as a 10th would be good, i doubt eccleston would do it, he doesn't seem as if he enjoys it that much.[/QUOTE] He nearly did the 50th. Very very nearly. I think with the reaction to his refusal to take part he'd consider it more than ever. Especially as he's totally willing to return to Heroes of all things.

They could get RTD back to write a one off episode maybe. If they did go back to Clara's Mum's death then maybe Capaldi could bump into Eccleston and they could have a scene together in the TARDIS or something (maybe Capaldi accidentally goes into Eccleston's TARDIS or vice versa?) EDIT: You know when Eccleston leaves for the first time in Rose, just before returning to tell Rose 'it's also a time machine'? Maybe Capaldi could be what sways him to go back and ask one last time. :v: EDIT 2: It could even just be a mini-sode.