I wouldn't personally have much of an issue if she left the show. For some reason I never felt the connection with her when she was introduced, something was weird about the way she was thrown into the role. When I think Dr Who, I think Rose and Amy and Rory and even Martha... Hell, Donna has a stronger presence in my memory of new Dr Who than even Clara. Don't know how to explain it.
Besides, a 'fresh start' for Capaldi wouldn't be a bad thing at all really.
[QUOTE=Sobek-;45716377]I wouldn't personally have much of an issue if she left the show. For some reason I never felt the connection with her when she was introduced, something was weird about the way she was thrown into the role. When I think Dr Who, I think Rose and Amy and Rory and even Martha... Hell, Donna has a stronger presence in my memory of new Dr Who than even Clara. Don't know how to explain it.
Besides, a 'fresh start' for Capaldi wouldn't be a bad thing at all really.[/QUOTE]
She's still here for at least more episodes than she has been in up to this point :v: Things change. She's easily a better character in Deep Breath than in any other appearance IMO.
Some positive remarks to come out of the leak - Episode 3 is being hailed as a Gatiss best with even better Capaldi.
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[QUOTE=Dan2593;45715299]I don't think a dead companion is very Doctor Who. And Jenna has already had a ton of on-screen deaths.
[editline]17th August 2014[/editline]
It's like that time a writer killed off Chewbacca in a Star Wars novel. It's just wrong, it goes against the grain of the story. It doesn't match.
Killing companions isn't the only dramatic way to say goodbye to a companion. In my opinion it's honestly the least interesting way. We 'killed off' the last set of companions. I'm not up for more of that.
To be honest I'm getting Sarah and 4 vibes. I really don't want her to go.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying I want Clara to kick the bucket, I'd like the companions to get off the TARDIS on a high note a bit more. Amy & Rory could've been left as is after Doctor, Widow & Wardrobe and that could be a pleasant ending for them, for example.
Just saying than an Andric departure at some point in the future could be impressive from a dramatic standpoint. A sudden, unpredictable loss. Nifty, though perhaps not practical in this day & age, I admit.
I remember Chewie's death. Never really thought strongly other than I thought it a gutsy move on the novels' part. Didn't have a problem with it, but that's just me.
[QUOTE=Grizz;45716578]She's still here for at least more episodes than she has been in up to this point :v: Things change. She's easily a better character in Deep Breath than in any other appearance IMO.
Some positive remarks to come out of the leak - Episode 3 is being hailed as a Gatiss best with even better Capaldi.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but every time I've seen "Gatiss' best" it's usually followed by "but only an average episode compared to everybody else"
Nobody on Doctor Who is more average than Steve Thompson.
I didn't think it was possible to make pirates and the TARDIS so... meh, in my head. Don't ruin Keeley Hawes for me.
if I was someone who had insider info I might say that time heist was ranked second at a private screening of the first five episodes
but of course, that's just a guess :v:
I actually prefer Thompson over Gatiss. I thought Black Spot was fun, better than most Gatiss. Then it's an unfair comparison as the only Gatiss stories I've ever actively enjoyed are The Unquiet Dead and Cold War, the rest were ehh.
TARDIS was dire though. But if Gatiss can come back every year despite writing some massive stinkers then I'm sure the man who wrote 'The Reichenbach Fall' should be allowed returns.
[QUOTE=Stockers678;41707016]Ugh - the reason I want Capaldi to be cast is because he would be so different to any previous Doctor.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dan2593;41707170]Personally I've given up on hope of Capaldi[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Xonax;41707626]I doubt it will be Peter Capaldi, they are obviously going to choose a young person like they usually do.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zuimzado;41708289]... please be Capaaaldi...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Freeze;41710348]Good luck everyone (at this point if it isn't Capaldi I'm sure some of your heads will explode so good luck with that)![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;41711003]EVERY TUMBLR GIRL I KNOW IS GOING CRAZY BECAUSE HE'S NOT YOUNG AND ATTRACTIVE
I AM SO FUCKING HAPPY THIS IS THE BEST POSSIBLE NEWS[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Grizz;41711139]PETER CAPALDI IS IN THE TARDIS, GUYS![/QUOTE]
It is almost upon us.
[img]https://38.media.tumblr.com/e9b7016014a763f954a5fecf23cd18b5/tumblr_naexuiGWgh1qfj2nyo2_500.gif[/img]
im gonna laugh in my cousins face when it turns out to be good and not bad like he thinks it's gonna be
[editline]17th August 2014[/editline]
please be good doctor who
An article on Doctor Who TV made me realize how similar some parts of the Doctor Who eras are.
The fan favourite (Tom Baker/David Tennant) moves onto the youngest Doctor at the time (Peter Davison/Matt Smith) moves onto a darker, slightly older Doctor (Colin Baker/Peter Capaldi).
Let's just hope Peter Capaldi's era isn't as bad as Colin Baker's (I doubt it will be).
If Jenna has gone come 2015, it will highlight how much of an anomaly Amy was during the last 10 years. A whole two and a half series with the same cast? You would think nothing ever gets done on this show :v:
I hope Clara doesn't get a 'timey-wimey' or 'permanent' exit, though. It would be nice to see a companion move forward positively, in one piece, after travelling with The Doctor. I guess Amy did - but in the timey-wimey sense of never being seen again apart from fan service.
Ah, Martha... you same so close.
[QUOTE][img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-l_2NdeSelPU/UAQe7Ii2w6I/AAAAAAAALSc/EUwy_cfsFaQ/s1600/Last+of+the+Time+Lords+(14).jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Well, damn you Russell 'The' Davies! Makes me think I don't want Clara back for pure fan service, either.
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MEANWHILE! 6:15-7:00pm. Probably behind-the-lens.
[QUOTE][img]http://i.imgur.com/UgwBM9m.png[/img][/QUOTE]
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d58GDNAiBFI[/media]
It's basically not possible for Clara to leave permanently considering how many versions of her there are out there.
I get what you mean though.
[QUOTE=Freeze;45720599]It's basically not possible for Clara to leave permanently considering how many versions of her there are out there.
I get what you mean though.[/QUOTE]
bullshit moffat-delete-the-universe-deus-ex-give-the-doctor-lives-nothing-ever-really-happened-alternate-universe crap probably.
[QUOTE=Freeze;45720599]It's basically not possible for Clara to leave permanently considering how many versions of her there are out there.[/QUOTE]
Not really, it hasn't been outright said but it seems pretty obvious that the Doctor only has a single interaction with each version of Clara in his life. Besides, that's all they are - fragments of her. Not an exact copy - a version of her which exists solely to nudge the Doctor in the right direction through his timeline before buggering off somewhere else.
There's only one Clara Oswald. She just happens to be everywhere. It's 100% possible for her to permanently leave.
I think a pretty amazing (yet incredibly difficult to pull off) ending for her story would be for her to die in such a way that she saves the day and quite possibly the Doctor, despite the Doctor making it very clear that he doesn't want her to. I just imagine it would be incredibly heartbreaking to see her die for the Doctor, but being completely at peace with it all.
Plus it would totally work considering the way the different versions of herself that we saw all died. We'd look back and be all "the bastard told us this was going to happen from the very beginning" and be even more heartbroken.
And it would be amazing.
[editline]18th August 2014[/editline]
I mean it would be one hell of a lot more memorable than "stuck in new york and died of old age in the last few minutes of the episode lol".
[QUOTE=evlbzltyr;45720814]Not really, it hasn't been outright said but it seems pretty obvious that the Doctor only has a single interaction with each version of Clara in his life. Besides, that's all they are - fragments of her. Not an exact copy - a version of her which exists solely to nudge the Doctor in the right direction through his timeline before buggering off somewhere else.
There's only one Clara Oswald. She just happens to be everywhere. It's 100% possible for her to permanently leave.
I think a pretty amazing (yet incredibly difficult to pull off) ending for her story would be for her to die in such a way that she saves the day and quite possibly the Doctor, despite the Doctor making it very clear that he doesn't want her to. I just imagine it would be incredibly heartbreaking to see her die for the Doctor, but being completely at peace with it all.
Plus it would totally work considering the way the different versions of herself that we saw all died. We'd look back and be all "the bastard told us this was going to happen from the very beginning" and be even more heartbroken.
And it would be amazing.
[editline]18th August 2014[/editline]
I mean it would be one hell of a lot more memorable than "stuck in new york and died of old age in the last few minutes of the episode lol".[/QUOTE]
Sometimes, I almost wonder if they'd filmed two endings, based on whether or not Karen and Arthur wanted to stay on. It just seems so bizarrely shoehorned-in for a permanent companion farewell. Mickey got more of a goodbye than that.
Then again, maybe that's the point: that it was a shock to everybody, including the Doctor and indeed the audience.
so the new episode is this saturday right?
[QUOTE=Schmaaa;45721230]so the new episode is this saturday right?[/QUOTE]yes
[QUOTE=TheRealRudy;45721063]So, some time back I said I was working on icons from the covers for each series of Doctor Who for a digital collection I have. They are looking so far like this.
[IMG_thumb]http://s7.postimg.org/8ife4ynh5/sofar.png[/IMG_thumb]
They'll probably be changed when series 8 is completely released, I've already prepared my collection for Capaldi :v:
[IMG_thumb]http://s7.postimg.org/n2wgzsift/CAPALDI.png[/IMG_thumb]
If anyone wants them so far, send me a PB and I'll send them to you, but you might wanna wait for when I change them again as I'll probably post a public download link in this topic.[/QUOTE]
Oh I did these too, except I used this fancy title everywhere (and I have specials inside series 4, so didn't make an icon for them)
[t]http://i.imgur.com/x2mtLR1.jpg[/t]
Guess I could share them. PNG, ICO, PSD included [url]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5zoX5t8qi9mRnItcVFYRGw3TnM/edit?usp=sharing[/url]
I decided to watch Robots of Sherwood as I heard it's the worst out of the three leaked episodes, so didn't think I'd be missing much by watching an inferior version early. [sp]While it has some elements that I don't like about the Moffat era (e.g. misuse of the sonic screwdriver and 'lulz so randumb'),[/sp] I still enjoyed the episode [sp]as Capaldi was able to deliver a mediocre script in a way that was able to suspend my suspension of disbelief more so than if it was Smith in the role. Don't get me wrong, I still hate the quirks of Steven Moffat and his band of merry writers, but with Capaldi it will hopefully be more bearable.[/sp]
[sp]Of course, Capaldi can only glaze so much shit with gold. It's only a matter of time before Moffat & Co produce a stinker that even Capaldi can't mask the smell of.[/sp] I'm particularly concerned about the series final, it's around this time that the Moff likes to mark its territory on the Doctor Who universe (retcon and contrived plots galore) and considering every final Moffat's produced so far has been poor at best, there's not much hope for series 8.
I've produced a rough analysis of modern Doctor Who, as you can see, Moffat and Smith haven't been able to produce a stable series since the start of series 5. Hopefully it will become stable once again with Capaldi, which I think it will for a while before becoming chaotic again.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/LkCfRhC.png[/IMG]
I'd like to point out that the graph from series 6 onwards looks awfully similar to the throughput I'd experience on the BT network at peak times. Maybe it's a sign Moffat and/or Smith were overworked?
Spoilers, man! Not everyone watches leaked episodes, cover some of that up with the proper black covering! We can talk whether or not this series sucks when it actually airs.
[QUOTE=Nasspray;45723448]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/LkCfRhC.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Mind explaining which episodes S7 is referring to?
[QUOTE=Funsize;45724000]Mind explaining which episodes S7 is referring to?[/QUOTE]
Asylum of the Daleks - Not great
Dinosaurs on a Spaceship - Not great
A Town Called Mercy - Alright
The Power of Three - Alright
The Angels Take Manhattan - Neutral
The Snowmen - Not great
The Bells of Saint John - Not bad
The Rings of Akhaten - Poor
Cold War - Alright
Hide - Alright
Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS - Poor
The Crimson Horror - Not bad
Nightmare in Silver - Not great
The Name of the Doctor - Terrible
The Day of the Doctor - Somewhere between terrible and unforgivable. I hate how Moffat rewrote the darkest part of The Doctor in order to save Gallifrey. RTD established the time lock and made a big dead about the Time Lords trying to break through, Moffat seems to have disregarded this.
The Time of the Doctor - Terrible
Not bad = between Alright and Good
Neutral = between Not great and Alright
[QUOTE=Nasspray;45724172]Asylum of the Daleks - Not great
Dinosaurs on a Spaceship - Not great
A Town Called Mercy - Alright
The Power of Three - Alright
The Angels Take Manhattan - Neutral
The Snowmen - Not great
The Bells of Saint John - Not bad
The Rings of Akhaten - Poor
Cold War - Alright
Hide - Alright
Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS - Poor
The Crimson Horror - Not bad
Nightmare in Silver - Not great
The Name of the Doctor - Terrible
The Day of the Doctor - Somewhere between terrible and unforgivable. I hate how Moffat rewrote the darkest part of The Doctor in order to save Gallifrey. RTD established the time lock and made a big dead about the Time Lords trying to break through, Moffat seems to have disregarded this.
The Time of the Doctor - Terrible
Not bad = between Alright and Good
Neutral = between Not great and Alright[/QUOTE]
What if I enjoyed every single episode of series 7 and found them good?
[QUOTE=Nasspray;45724172]Asylum of the Daleks - Not great
Dinosaurs on a Spaceship - Not great
A Town Called Mercy - Alright
The Power of Three - Alright
The Angels Take Manhattan - Neutral
The Snowmen - Not great
The Bells of Saint John - Not bad
The Rings of Akhaten - Poor
Cold War - Alright
Hide - Alright
Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS - Poor
The Crimson Horror - Not bad
Nightmare in Silver - Not great
The Name of the Doctor - Terrible
The Day of the Doctor - Somewhere between terrible and unforgivable. I hate how Moffat rewrote the darkest part of The Doctor in order to save Gallifrey. RTD established the time lock and made a big dead about the Time Lords trying to break through, Moffat seems to have disregarded this.
The Time of the Doctor - Terrible
Not bad = between Alright and Good
Neutral = between Not great and Alright[/QUOTE]
objectively wrong
[QUOTE=oskramorir;45724359]What if I enjoyed every single episode of series 7 and found them good?[/QUOTE]
Then good for you?
I'm not trying to force my opinions on anyone. I'm just stating my own views and speculating what series 8 will be like.
[QUOTE=Nasspray;45724402]Then good for you?
I'm not trying to force my opinions on anyone. I'm just stating my own views and speculating what series 8 will be like.[/QUOTE]
You posted a graph. Graphs are used to show some empirical (or objective) data. So, you tried to tell us that your opinion was objectively right.
[QUOTE=oskramorir;45724422]You posted a graph. Graphs are used to show some empirical (or objective) data. So, you tried to tell us that your opinion was objectively right.[/QUOTE]
I posted the graph to show you in an instant what my views are throughout the entire modern series. You're over analysing my post.
So do they explain in the new series how Peter Capaldi has been in doctor who before.
and what does Nass mean the doctor we have now is a "copy".
[editline]18th August 2014[/editline]
The description of this clip says in this clip there is another person making a doctor who debut but Karen Gillan isn't in it.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDwxTXypdlE[/media]
[QUOTE=nuke4fix;45721430]Oh I did these too, except I used this fancy title everywhere (and I have specials inside series 4, so didn't make an icon for them)
[t]http://i.imgur.com/x2mtLR1.jpg[/t]
Guess I could share them. PNG, ICO, PSD included [url]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5zoX5t8qi9mRnItcVFYRGw3TnM/edit?usp=sharing[/url][/QUOTE]
I prefer the series covers to have the logo that they had when they actually were broadcast, just feels a bit more appropriate.
Also, bit late here but anyway
[QUOTE=Drewsko;45712131][thumb]http://houseofgeekery.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/adric.jpg[/thumb]
Have to agree. An Andric stunt for the new generation would be a seriously dramatically awesome move, though I wonder if it can be gotten away with as much as a surprise as possible. I hear people were on the edge whether or not Rose would die in Doomsday, would rumors foil such a thing now?[/QUOTE]
Earthshock the first story I bought that had Adric and it even given me quite a shock even though I barely know (And still barely know) anything about him.
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