You can disagree with the first fourteen words of my post but past that I'm just telling you the facts. Trust me.
You're supposed to have an interpretation about it (obviously) but you can never be 100% sure. There is no way you can be 100% sure. It's just not possible.
[I]No, no, no! Not the hugging! I'm against the hugging! Please![/I]
That was a sweet little shot :)
And now, a quote from An Unearthly Child:
[QUOTE]DOCTOR: Fear makes companions of all of us. That's right.
BARBARA: I never thought once you were afraid.
DOCTOR: Fear is with all of us, and always will be. Just like that other sensation that lives with it.
BARBARA: What's that?
DOCTOR: Your companion referred to it. Hope. Hope, that's right.
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Freeze;45971538]You can disagree with the first fourteen words of my post but past that I'm just telling you the facts. Trust me.
You're supposed to have an interpretation about it (obviously) but you can never be 100% sure. There is no way you can be 100% sure. It's just not possible.[/QUOTE]
I don't care if even the writer doesn't know, from what I saw I am 100% certain my interpretation is the correct one :v:
This story just dint scare me
I mean if want to make a scary then at least show people that the monster existed
For the rest the ep was very good
Just kind of sad that it failed on scary part
Plenty of reports that it was scary for many within the younger audience. I think that's a job well done for DW.
The twinkle in 12's eye as he declared...
[I]"...now, this really is [B]a bit[/B] strange..."[/I] :v:
Also, front shot of Capaldi running down a corridor next week. [B]GET HYPE.[/B]
The connection if the [sp] the barn the child doctor slept in and the barn that the war doctor enters to use the moment was fantastic. Also is it implied that it's the Doctor's childhood home? [/sp]
I didn't like the episode, I honestly didn't. It felt so lackluster. I wasn't on edge once, and I hate Danny so far, so this being Danny-centric made it worse for me. While I have to compliment that they gave reason to the barn in Day, and the Doctor giving a good few laughs, it overall seems like it'll be a very forgettable episode.
[QUOTE=Irockz;45971913]it overall seems like it'll be a very forgettable episode.[/QUOTE]
It's entrenched in Doctor Who's history forever. "Listen" will never be forgotten.
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I loved it!
That was a cool episode, but I actually thought the kid at the end was Dan until I read this thread. I must have missed something, a spider showed up when that scene was happening. Will have to rewatch, because holy shit that episode makes a lot more sense.
[QUOTE=quinaquin;45972075]That was a cool episode, but I actually thought the kid at the end was Dan until I read this thread. I must have missed something, a spider showed up when that scene was happening. Will have to rewatch, because holy shit that episode makes a lot more sense.[/QUOTE]You probably missed the part where the male voice said 'he'll never be a timelord'.
Key word there is timelord.
doesn't that confirm that not all gallifreyans are time lords, but all time lords are gallifreyan?
[QUOTE=lintz;45972105]doesn't that confirm that not all gallifreyans are time lords, but all time lords are gallifreyan?[/QUOTE]
Hasn't that always been the case?
[QUOTE=lintz;45972105]doesn't that confirm that not all gallifreyans are time lords[/QUOTE]
I think that was confirmed already - but it's nice to have it in the modern series. There were certainly others on Gallifrey who weren't Time Lords.
[QUOTE=TheRealRudy;45972152]I still wonder, how was [sp]the Tardis be abble to set foot on Gallifrey? Wasn't it all timelocked or something?[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]The Time War was explicitly stated to be time-locked. But Gallifrey still existed in our Universe before the war... and although I imagine there is a rule about Time Lords revisiting out of order, it must be theoretically accessible[/sp]
[QUOTE=TheRealRudy;45972152]I still wonder, how was [sp]the Tardis be abble to set foot on Gallifrey? Wasn't it all timelocked or something?[/sp][/QUOTE]Some idiot turned off the safe guards.
[QUOTE=Freeze;45972172]Some idiot turned off the safe guards.[/QUOTE]
This is now my favourite explanation for 'But the Doctor said he couldn't go there!'. Who's going to try and stop the Time Lord Victorious from disobeying the laws of time?
[QUOTE=TheRealRudy;45971903][B]Deep Breath:[/B]
[I]"27 years old with a projected lifespan of exactly-"
"Stop right there."[/I]
[B]Listen:[/B]
[I]"The TARDIS is extrapolating your entire timeline, from the moment of your birth to the moment of your death-"
"Which I do not need a preview of." [/I]
Is something getting foreshadowed?[/QUOTE]
Most definitely.
dont hug me im scared episode 3 will just be that scene with clara and doctor
The Doctor swiped that guy's coffee, the cheeky bugger.
It still doesn't feel quite real that Peter Capaldi is The Doctor. Yet he so [I]is[/I] The Doctor. When I see him - I'm mesmerized. His pronunciation. His delivery. His movements. His gestures. It's perfect.
Assure me - is it happening? Is Series 8 real? I haven't just made up how great it all is?
[I]‘You said you had a date. I thought I’d better hide in the bedroom in case you brought him home’[/I]
[I]"Where is he? I can't find him - can you find him? Wally! He's nowhere in this book!"[/I]
[QUOTE=Grizz;45972674]It still doesn't feel quite real that Peter Capaldi is The Doctor. Yet he so [I]is[/I] The Doctor. When I see him - I'm mesmerized. His pronunciation. His delivery. His movements. His gestures. It's perfect.
Assure me - is it happening? Is Series 8 real? I haven't just made up how great it all is?[/QUOTE]
This is all just an illusion. Matt Smith regenerated into Adrien Chiles, and the head writers are now the Chuckle Brothers. Most episodes so far have involved contrived ways of getting the Doctor hit over the head with blunt objects. Yet it's still better than the X-Factor...
[QUOTE=Grizz;45972674]It still doesn't feel quite real that Peter Capaldi is The Doctor. Yet he so [I]is[/I] The Doctor. When I see him - I'm mesmerized. His pronunciation. His delivery. His movements. His gestures. It's perfect.
Assure me - is it happening? Is Series 8 real? I haven't just made up how great it all is?
[I]‘You said you had a date. I thought I’d better hide in the bedroom in case you brought him home’[/I]
[I]"Where is he? I can't find him - can you find him? Wally! He's nowhere in this book!"[/I][/QUOTE]matt smith regenerated into david tennant sorry
this episode was extremely powerful, all in all.
the music at the end made the entire scene perfect - is it reused?
I thought the episode would be scarier, but I'm kind of glad it wasn't. It was great.
I'm loving Capaldi's thing of telling silent people to shut up.
The ratings guys are in agreement... whatever 'Listen' gets, it deserves more.
Happy to assume the woman at the end was [sp]Claire Bloom[/sp] to fit current head canon :v:
[QUOTE=evlbzltyr;45971483]I disagree absolutely. My understanding of it was that the moment where the Doctor and Clara plant that idea in Rupert's head and change his entire life was directly mirrored by the time that Clara grabs the Doctor's leg and instantly alters the Doctor's path. Remember, the Doctor thought that everybody must have that dream once in their lives, but that was just a theory. When he actually asked if Clara had had that specific dream she was all like "I dunno, maybe?" Then, when they got to Rupert, he hadn't had that specific dream - he just thought someone was under the bed.
The Doctor was so hell-bent on the theory that "everyone has that dream -> maybe there's a reason -> maybe there is something under the bed" because there [I]was[/I] something under the bed that night: CLARA. That moment followed him the rest of his life. Whenever he's alone for too long - without a [I]companion[/I] - he remembers it and freaks the fuck out, and eventually decides "sod it, let's try and figure this out". So he grabs Clara, goes off, and without knowing it actually creates that fear for himself. But in doing so Clara also ingrains the idea of running away, of having a companion, of being the Doctor.
Essentially, this episode was a character study. Moffat wrote a story which pretended to be about the monster under the bed, when really it was about the scared kid on top of it.[/QUOTE]
Now you put it that way, it was pretty neat in that respect. Though overall, I didn't feel overly enthused about this particular instalment, since I was expecting us to learn the truth about that hidden thing. After all, we saw a glimpse of the actual creature under the bed, kinda similar to one of the Silents, so there was in fact such a creature in the Whoniverse that fits in with the Doctor's theory.
Still, it set up a bit of backstory like how Dan was set on the path of the Soldier Man, and gave context to why the Doctor is who he is. In those respects it succeeded, but otherwise it didn't really grip me as much as I felt it could have. Also it almost felt like it had two main parts along with the lighter moments, like the initial date was the prologue, the Rupert era was the first act, going back to the date was the intermission (go get a ridiculously-overpriced tub of Haagen-Daaz from the lobby), the Orson era was the second act, and the Doctor childhood bit was the closing moments.
[QUOTE=evlbzltyr;45971483]I disagree absolutely. My understanding of it was that the moment where the Doctor and Clara plant that idea in Rupert's head and change his entire life was directly mirrored by the time that Clara grabs the Doctor's leg and instantly alters the Doctor's path. Remember, the Doctor thought that everybody must have that dream once in their lives, but that was just a theory. When he actually asked if Clara had had that specific dream she was all like "I dunno, maybe?" Then, when they got to Rupert, he hadn't had that specific dream - he just thought someone was under the bed.
The Doctor was so hell-bent on the theory that "everyone has that dream -> maybe there's a reason -> maybe there is something under the bed" because there [I]was[/I] something under the bed that night: CLARA. That moment followed him the rest of his life. Whenever he's alone for too long - without a [I]companion[/I] - he remembers it and freaks the fuck out, and eventually decides "sod it, let's try and figure this out". So he grabs Clara, goes off, and without knowing it actually creates that fear for himself. But in doing so Clara also ingrains the idea of running away, of having a companion, of being the Doctor.
Essentially, this episode was a character study. Moffat wrote a story which pretended to be about the monster under the bed, when really it was about the scared kid on top of it.[/QUOTE]
Thank you, Tim. You fufilled your duty well while I was absent. Though I would have done it with a lot more swearing.
And fuck everyone saying Freeze has the last word because his dad was the director. It's all up to interpretation. I believe that there was no monster. Basically read the quote I posted, that's exactly what I think. And because I'm ElectronicG19 I'm always right.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;45973453]And fuck everyone saying Freeze has the last word because his dad was the director. It's all up to interpretation.[/QUOTE]my last word was literally 'it's all up to interpretation'
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