[QUOTE=Freeze;46151618]I'd personally argue Clara and Courtney did the wrong thing in the situation they were in. Sure, overall it ended up good but that's was just luck, wasn't it? They were gonna let billions die for [I]one[/I] single creature. They're crazy.[/QUOTE]
Actually it was argued that everybody could live fine. It was equally risky as killing it
[QUOTE=Dan2593;46151653]Actually it was argued that everybody could live fine. It was equally risky as killing it[/QUOTE]
the doctor said some science stuff about the moon pulling itself back together so there was no risk killing it
[QUOTE=Dan2593;46151631]I think Samuel Anderson is one of the strongest actors of the whole series[/QUOTE]
lmao not at all, he does this weird voice and face after everything he says. Go back and watch him. I don't think he can act at all, really.
But it'll be all right when it's revealed he's a member of UNIT posted to keep an eye on Clara.
[QUOTE=Dan2593;46151653]Actually it was argued that everybody could live fine. It was equally risky as killing it[/QUOTE]I know it was argued that everyone might be okay, but was it argued that it could be [I]equally[/I] as risky? (I'm actually asking, I don't completely remember)
My two word review: Fuck You.
[QUOTE=Freeze;46151618]I'd personally argue Clara and Courtney did the wrong thing in the situation they were in. Sure, overall it ended up good but that's was just luck, wasn't it? They were gonna let billions die for [I]one[/I] single creature. They're crazy.[/QUOTE]
it's literally the trolley problem
i.e. is it better to do nothing, to not be involved, to let events transpire and let a bunch of people die, or to act and go out of your way to kill someone to save the others
but yeah, most people would choose to kill the individual. I guess it's a little different since there was a chance that nothing would actually happen, but yeah, it was still probably the wrong decision to make
[QUOTE=verynicelady;46151452]I don't get the Courtney hate. Maybe it's because I'm an older adult but I thought her believable. Real people don't react with drama and face pulling, and she's supposed to be someone who puts on a face of being cool. Yes she's childish and sometimes bored scared and/or annoying but that reminded me of how I used to see my younger sister when we were children. Someone who needs protecting. Someone who should never have travelled with the Doctor, someone who is further evidence that the Doctor gets it wrong sometimes where his human companions are concerned[/QUOTE]
Yes but when the story called for her to be scared and wanting to go home I could've replaced the actor with a brick and recieved a much more convincing emotional response.
episode would have been a lot better without: Courtney, Clara being a dumbo, the Spider Webs (why the fuck are bacteria spinning fucking webs?!), the Space Dragon, if the spiders were just malicious aliens and not bacteria, if the thing growing in the Moon was a giant spider colony and not, i can't stress how fucking stupid this is, a fucking space dragon.
would have been better with: an actual moral dilemma for the Doctor, the Doctor actually going grimdark as fuck as promised
the scene in the TARDIS was pretty good at the end but not the best in the fucking series like Moffat said, the best scene in the series was the bit with the bedsheet in Listen.
Kill the Moon official EG19 verdict: massive disappointment, if the BBC didn't hype it the fuck up I wouldn't have minded but I went in expecting 10/10 Doctor Who.
The last five minutes were good. The rest was unbearable to watch cringey awful shit.
QUICK POST ABOUT THIS BEING A DR WHO GOLDEN AGE.
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I'm sorry, I'm posting just after watching and feeling very bitter, I understand that this is not constructive or an insightful criticism, but jesus christ I'm disappointed in the recent quality of writing in Dr Who.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;46151699]if the BBC didn't hype it the fuck up[/QUOTE]to be fair it was more the reviews that hyped it up rather than the bbc themselves
[QUOTE=Freeze;46151705]to be fair it was more the reviews that hyped it up rather than the bbc themselves[/QUOTE]
alright yeah but Moffat hyped it up too, everyone was promising ultra dark adult-esque Who but it just wasn't.
But I can't stress how great Capaldi is. Seriously. He deserves massive praise for this episode.
So far i think my favourite episode was the robin hood one, mostly for the other actors performances and the light heartedness of them. I think Capaldi is a good actor but dark dr who just isnt what i like, i prefer the optimistic dr who makes mistakes but overall positive and believes in the potential of different races.
As Clara i would be pissed after being with a dr for so long who tries to save everyone , doesn't always make it but at least tried to suddenly stop giving a shit and being well that's your problem silly HUUUMANS.
I can understand for a 10 year old or younger getting bored and saying stupid things like [sp] is it a chicken [/sp] but not a teen.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;46151712]He deserves massive praise for every episode.[/QUOTE]FTFY :v:
[QUOTE=mickers;46151718]So far i think my favourite episode was the robin hood one, mostly for the other actors performances and the light heartedness of them. I think Capaldi is a good actor but dark dr who just isnt what i like, i prefer the optimistic dr who makes mistakes but overall positive and believes in the potential of different races.[/QUOTE]
What's the point in Capaldi's Doctor acting exactly the same as 11, it defeats the whole purpose of his character growing up both physically and mentally after finding out he didn't ass rape Gallifrey.
Capaldi is cold and calculating because it gets shit done, and he doesnt really fit a younger, springy Doctor at all, getting stuff done is what works with 12.
[QUOTE=Freeze;46151740]FTFY :v:[/QUOTE]
yeah man, you're right. Capaldi hasn't put a bad performance in yet. I really really love him as the Doctor. He's currently tied with 8 as my favourite. I bet he'll be my favourite by the end of s8.
Wow, that was pretty awful.
"Don't [I]ever[/I] talk to me about my 'language'!"
oh the Tucker edits that will spring from that
I'm pretty sure the thing that hatched from the Moon went on to kill Samus Aran's parents and lead the Space Pirates, so A++ job there Clara.
[QUOTE=evlbzltyr;46151780]"Don't [I]ever[/I] talk to me about my 'language'!"
oh the Tucker edits that will spring from that[/QUOTE]
Hello.
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[QUOTE=mickers;46151718]So far i think my favourite episode was the robin hood one, mostly for the other actors performances and the light heartedness of them. I think Capaldi is a good actor but dark dr who just isnt what i like, i prefer the optimistic dr who makes mistakes but overall positive and believes in the potential of different races.
As Clara i would be pissed after being with a dr for so long who tries to save everyone , doesn't always make it but at least tried to suddenly stop giving a shit and being well that's your problem silly HUUUMANS.
I can understand for a 10 year old or younger getting bored and saying stupid things like [sp] is it a chicken [/sp] but not a teen.[/QUOTE]
You see I like light hearted Who and I like dark Who and I liked Robot Hood as it did the light really well, the problem for me is that the dark episodes lack the maturity to be dark without -as was the case tonight-some over cooked moral dilemma that works out fine in the end. Where is the bite? Oh this isn't a moon it's a space egg and you kill it your a meany and if you don't you'll kill everyone and that's mean too! Jesus christ... The whole dilemma falls apart when it all comes good in the end and makes the whole thing of no conscience.
So down the line of what I'm thinking is ridiculous and awful right now
- I do think it's stupid the moon is an egg, I get that people might not mind that but it did make me cringe when they decided it.
- The "moral dilemma" of killing "an innocent moon bby" was not believable for me at all. As in it was not a dilemma. The fact that three people (The Doctor, Clara and Courtney) were instantly "omg must save the baby!" just seemed ridiculous. If there is any chance the thing might damage earth? Kill it. If it hatching is going to destroy the moon, as seemingly even the doctor didn't know, kill it. The impact of having NO MOON is not worth saving a "poor innocent" dragon baby.
- The voting system of turning off your lights or keeping them on. What? I was laughing at the screen, my boyfriend was laughing at the screen. Are they serious?
- The fact that despite the entire population of earth did somehow see Clara's broadcast and immediately understand what was going on and that they should turn off their lights - Clara stopped the bomb anyway because morals~~~~. Frankly I think it's pretty freaking immoral to go against everyone on Earth's wishes and most likely doom them to awful deaths, and she'd agreed to let them vote.
- The fact that none of the hype for the vote/decision actually matters anyway, they may as well have not had an episode, because everything worked out and who needs agency or the ability to make bad decisions hurrah.
- IT INSTANTLY DROPS A NEW EGGMOON? SORRY? OH GOOD. GUESS EVERYTHING IS FINE AND DANDY.
[sp] I really did like the last five minutes. [/sp]
[QUOTE=Grizz;46151820]Hello.
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aw yiss :v:
And wouldnt the destruction of the moon -bullshit near instant replacement or not- have caused the earth to flood?
Yeah that episode was painful to watch.
Apparently the writer Peter Harness has actually deleted his twitter account (@MrPeterHarness).. not confirmed on that but.. wow.
[QUOTE=BarnacleDrive;46151829]So down the line of what I'm thinking is ridiculous and awful right now
- I do think it's stupid the moon is an egg, I get that people might not mind that but it did make me cringe when they decided it.
- The "moral dilemma" of killing "an innocent moon bby" was not believable for me at all. As in it was not a dilemma. The fact that three people (The Doctor, Clara and Courtney) were instantly "omg must save the baby!" just seemed ridiculous. If there is any chance the thing might damage earth? Kill it. If it hatching is going to destroy the moon, as seemingly even the doctor didn't know, kill it. The impact of having NO MOON is not worth saving a "poor innocent" dragon baby.
- The voting system of turning off your lights or keeping them on. What? I was laughing at the screen, my boyfriend was laughing at the screen. Are they serious?
- The fact that despite the entire population of earth did somehow see Clara's broadcast and immediately understand what was going on and that they should turn off their lights - Clara stopped the bomb anyway because morals~~~~. Frankly I think it's pretty freaking immoral to go against everyone on Earth's wishes and most likely doom them to awful deaths, and she'd agreed to let them vote.
- The fact that none of the hype for the vote/decision actually matters anyway, they may as well have not had an episode, because everything worked out and who needs agency or the ability to make bad decisions hurrah.
- IT INSTANTLY DROPS A NEW EGGMOON? SORRY? OH GOOD. GUESS EVERYTHING IS FINE AND DANDY.
[sp] I really did like the last five minutes. [/sp][/QUOTE]
I was going to make a post after I made sure I was the first to make a joke about Metroid (speaking of which those spiders look like they could be in a Metroid game), but you said basically everything I was going to say. I will add that Capaldi's performance as well as Coleman's were brilliant. Clara's just damn lucky she's living in a children's TV show. All in all, I feel the episode had a few good ideas within but fell flat for the reasons you stated above. Also Courtney didn't do shit yet still is credited for stuff. All she did was save her own life through bullshit.
[QUOTE=Chrisordie;46151860]And wouldnt the destruction of the moon -bullshit near instant replacement or not- have caused the earth to flood?[/QUOTE]
Ye im sure the fact a 1.9 trillion ton mass flew past the earth probably would have caused some massive tidal wave, i almost expected that to happen when the dr went "wait" and looked out towards the sea.
[QUOTE=BarnacleDrive;46151887]Apparently the writer Peter Harness has actually deleted his twitter account (@MrPeterHarness).. not confirmed on that but.. wow.[/QUOTE]
He did that before the episode. Wednesday, I believe.
Liked the last 5 mins, but fuck me i was not impressed by the baby alien dragon egg thing. When you have fucking space spiders you use em better than that, just fucking anything centering around them and it would have been better, here's a plot I'm pulling out of my ass.
Space spiders travel from planet to planet and eat everything under the surface and multiply by hundreds within a year a planet is completely hollowed out, when the spiders have finished the planet crumbles away and they all hitch rides on debris to their next planet to carry on, Earth is next on their list when they finish with the moon, some such bollocks about how Saturn or Jupiter suffered that fate. They die in direct sunlight so Doctor creates a mirror or something to reflect the sun onto the dark of the moon and then forces the spiders to the surface by placing a giant conker in the center of the planet. They all flee to the surface and burn away to dust instantly. Tucker saves the day but the moon still gets nuked cause humanity gets trigger happy and fucks itself over to which the doctor takes out his anger of human stupidity / infancy on Clara and thus we get the rift.
fuck it.
I'm just annoyed that the monster was criminally underused so ignore that shit above.
Nobody responded to my uncertainty
what was the Blink reference?
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