• Doctor Who - Speculation and Spoilers Series 9
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TBH I hate how short seasons are, it feels like it just started up again :(
I really disliked that episode. Nothing happened really, the doctor didn't do anything, the child didn't do anything. Only time someone did anything was when Danny pointed a flashlight at a tiger.
right, so my thoughts some of the child actors were REALLY annoying, some of them completely un-needed and just made some parts really strange, namely that ginger girl. the end was kind of predicable, with the trees protecting the earth, but not enough so the episode became boring, yet enough so the episode lost mystery it did give you that kind of "eureka!" moment when you figured it out though final thoughts on the end were the effects with the trees disappearing were super weird looking and looked very strange, as they just turned into dust slowly in what looked like an assorted order (in rows), except one that the girl managed to hide under (which was a nice conclusion for the family) that stayed longer than any other bush. i wish that the trees were like pulled back by the solar flare and disintegrated from the force, heat etc, leaving the older trees due to their strength (explaining why some stayed there) and just didnt straight up turn into dust also i feel it was too "linear" if that's the word, everything was explained in the next scene and nothing was left mystery, e.g her arm waving. preview for next episodes/finale looks super though
Finally! I've been annoyed for ages about [sp]why Clara is still here when her jumping into the Doctor's timestream established that she should only be here when the Doctor's life needs saving, and then she disappears.[/sp] At the moment, it's looking like the people who thought [sp]Clara and Missy are the same person[/sp] may well be correct.
I think that was an absolutely terrible episode, one of the worst episodes I've seen; even Love & Monsters was better than that. It had a boring, dumb and uninteresting story where nothing really happened and there were several stupid plot points such as [sp] outrunning wolves, random arm waving, no one being surprised by the TARDIS, everyone acting like this sort of thing happens all the time and was nothing unusual, phoning everyone to tell them to stop cutting down the trees, saying people will forget it all "just because", her sister randomly appearing at the end just so it had a "super happy ending where everything is fine, even the things that have no relevance to the story!" etc [/sp]. The story made hardly any sense and had an ending that was predictable and just felt like an unsatisfying lazy solution, no one actually did anything. It also had annoying, bland and emotionless characters and acting. I can't think of any episodes that were worse than that. I thought the recent moon episode was bad, but it's nothing compared to this one.
that was pretty bad, why does doctor who always make the government look incompetent
also lemme just stand 5 feet away from a tiger and shine a torch in its eyes
Alright I haven't watched the episode yet but from the next time trailer I've updated my Missy theory. She's an offshoot of Clara that went wrong somehow, the Clara that is travelling with the Doctor is the younger Missy offshoot. The real Clara died on Trenzalore in the s7 finale.
apparently that ginger kid voices peppa pig? if that's true, explains a lot namely why i recognized it from somewhere also was it me when the doctor was doing his speech to himself in the tardis did they repeat a scene? i'm not sure when it was but he was in a sentence and it panned out when he said a word then in the next line when he said the same word it also panned out at the same angle and then went closeup
The worst episode of the series. Such a great premise with little else good to say about it. The direction was hit or miss, a lot miss. It felt like a soap opera/documentary a lot of the time with badly used wide angle lenses and overuse of shaky cam. Possibly the worst writing I've seen in a long time. The reactions especially, jesus christ. A group of young children just walked into the TARDIS and hardly even cared. The entire earth was filled with trees and the biggest reaction was someone slightly gasping. There was no threat and everyone except the Doctor forgets what happens anyway. There's hardly even a moral. The only good child actor was the tree girl, it's just a shame the writing wasn't there to truly use her. Her reaction to the TARDIS was the only believable one. The effects.. oh jesus the effects. Those eyes coming out of the bushes were laughable and when the tiger wasn't actually there it was really obvious. Even Capaldi struggles to make up for such a bad plot. The first episode I'd actually consider 'bad' of series 8, such a shame. 4.5/10. The next time trailer was the best part of the show.:(
Also, they were in the middle of fucking Trafalgar Square, why are there no other people besides the Kids, the people in hazmat suits, and the one mom on a bike.
[QUOTE=Freeze;46329367]There was no threat and everyone except the Doctor forgets what happens anyway. There's hardly even a moral.[/QUOTE] [img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m43isbUOd41ro8ysbo1_500.gif[/img] trees r gud
Also why were there TV screens superimposed on the earth? Couldn't they just have shown the tv screens flipping through on the tardis if you want to show the whole world covered? Sad... I thought they were setting it up as some kind of alien game show where they fuck with humans. Which would've been cool.
I knew i'd been listening to too much Ink Spots in Fallout 3 when the first thing I thought when [sp]they tried to set the trees alight was, "I guess they really don't want to set the world on fire"[/sp].
That episode sucked, but the next two episodes look to be really good.
I did like that they thought starting a global [sp]forest fire[/sp] was a good idea.
My Clara theory (I have no idea about how Missy relates to her so this is pure speculation) is that the Clara that's being shown in the next time trailer isn't the real Clara. I think that we will be lead to believe that Clara Oswald never existed but then find out that the real Clara is actually just trapped or being mind controlled - there's no way they'd write over all that character development like that.
[QUOTE=Freeze;46329432]My Clara theory (I have no idea about how Missy relates to her so this is pure speculation) is that the Clara that's being shown in the next time trailer isn't the real Clara. I think that we will be lead to believe that Clara Oswald never existed but then find out that the real Clara is actually just trapped or something - there's no way they'd write over all that character development like that.[/QUOTE] "i have no idea how Missy relates to her" Missy confirmed for not Clara. FML.
Another thing I worry about in this episode: The Doctor says that they shouldn't silence the voices in her head and that's all good and well in the fictional world but that could easily affect someone with a real mental problem and cause them to stop taking their medication [I]in the real world[/I].
my main fear is that the explanation for missy might be shit, as it's got a fair bit of build up as to what the mystery could be.
So for those not in Britland, and have not seen the episode yet, is the general consensus that it sucks a wad of balls?
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;46329447]"i have no idea how Missy relates to her" Missy confirmed for not Clara. FML.[/QUOTE][sp]Clara could be Missy and the knowledge that I have of her would still make sense.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Freeze;46329470][sp]Missy could be Clara and the knowledge that I have of her would still make sense.[/sp][/QUOTE] G E T H Y P E
Not going to bother with this episode, busy tonight and it sounds like there's nothing worth going back to catch up on. But I just watched the 'next time' trailer and now the hype is on. At least the Missy thing seems like it'll be resolved this season rather than the whole cracks and silence and question and stuff being spread out too long for me to remember anything. Even looking back I can't make heads nor tails of it all.
It's probably worth a watch. It seems like people are either loving or hating it and who knows, you might be someone that loves it!
10. 9. 8. <- If the idea was executed perfectly. 7. <- Misuse of the SS ("It's not a magic wand"). 6. <- Forced "everybody lives" ending that makes no sense. 5. <- Peoples reactions to the situation (kids in TARDIS, peoples reaction to the trees). 4. <- Shit audio (AGAIN!) 3. <- Where the hell was everyone, it's central London during the day! 2. <- "you have reached your destination" and other minor complaints. 1. 0.
[QUOTE=TheRealRudy;46329544]One thing I didn't like [B]at all[/B] was the fact that Humanity simply "forgets" everything happend? An invasion-ish just happend, what do you do? Go on like nothing ever happend. Hell they got VIDEO EVIDENCE. The utter destruction the trees must have caused. Photo proof. The satalites that have been destroyed with the solar flare. People in this age don't forget things anymore. It's not like the dark ages where everyone just forgets it and it ends up being a fairy tale. I just assume this never happend because of the cracks from series 5, just like why the invasions from series 1-4 never happend.[/QUOTE] This could be part of something bigger. The Doctor has been explaining a lot of conspicuous things so far this series as 'People forget'. The other key example I can think of is the Robin Hood episode. I wonder if this is something relevant?
[QUOTE=Freeze;46329530]It's probably worth a watch. It seems like people are either loving or hating it and who knows, you might be someone that loves it![/QUOTE] Not from the complaints I've heard, they all sound like the things I'd complain about. Same with Kill the Moon, the haters hated the things I hated about it too. [editline]25th October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Jamsponge;46329606]This could be part of something bigger. The Doctor has been explaining a lot of conspicuous things so far this series as 'People forget'. The other key example I can think of is the Robin Hood episode. I wonder if this is something relevant?[/QUOTE] Robin Hood was just one rebel in a country without cameras or prolific literacy where bad stuff was happening in absence of a strong, good-intentioned authority. Not trees EVERYWHERE in modern day.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;46329475]G E T H Y P E[/QUOTE] FOR THE RETURN OF GRANNY OSWALD [img]http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/time-of-the-doctor-extended-bbca-trailer-7.jpg[/img]
Okay, so the idea was that the world woke up one morning and trees had just appeared everywhere. But obviously, not everywhere in the would would be asleep at the same time. It must have happened in the middle of the day for millions of people.
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