[QUOTE=RoboChimp2;46704554]One of the Cybermen from the final should survive and become 'Cyber Man' the hero in some episode just to confuse the Doctor :v: . How funny is that a Cyber Man lost his memory and thought he was a hero :v: .
Also, I want Rusty the Dalek to return.[/QUOTE]Chimp, don't post while drunk you idiot.
[QUOTE=RoboChimp2;46707659]Chimp, don't post while drunk you idiot.[/QUOTE]
That's you while drunk? That's how you normally post.
[QUOTE=lintz;46707375]it's science fantasy[/QUOTE]
Hell, most popular sci-fi is Science Fantasy. Star Wars and Warhammer 40k are the most popular examples.
Science Fiction would be Star Trek and Mass Effect. Buuut, even those are really soft sci-fi. Honestly, hard sci-fi is generally really boring.
Sci-Fi means Science Fiction, if the science is fictitious and isn't terribly accurate then thats the reason.
So long as it isn't painfully stupid, like say the moon blowing up and it not affecting anything theres no reason to get cross at it.
[QUOTE=Chrisordie;46711669]Sci-Fi means Science Fiction, if the science is fictitious and isn't terribly accurate then thats the reason.
So long as it isn't painfully stupid, like say the moon blowing up and it not affecting anything theres no reason to get cross at it.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but some people like to think that all sci-fi should work like hard sci-fi where all the science has rules and has to be practically applied to it's fullest extent. I don't, because that's silly.
[QUOTE=Chrisordie;46711669]Sci-Fi means Science Fiction, if the science is fictitious and isn't terribly accurate then thats the reason.
So long as it isn't painfully stupid, like say [B]the moon blowing up and it not affecting anything[/B] theres no reason to get cross at it.[/QUOTE]
Wow, way to Kill The Moon's cultural importance in media.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46712908]Wow, way to Kill The Moon's cultural importance in media.[/QUOTE]
how do i slap someone through the internet
[QUOTE=Chrisordie;46711669]Sci-Fi means Science Fiction, if the science is fictitious and isn't terribly accurate then thats the reason.
So long as it isn't painfully stupid, like say the moon blowing up and it not affecting anything theres no reason to get cross at it.[/QUOTE]I think the pre 2010 Doctor Who had a lot more clever explainations before all the magic and custard nonsense. It just got too whimsical after a while, some clever planning and a little believability never hurt. The Doctor isn't a wizard after all. I wish they'd work on the pay off a bit more, it always builds to something and then gets a watered down explaination which is very anticlimatic. Just saying.
[QUOTE=Drewsko;46690769]He created an alt for a cheap gag over in the TF2 forum.[/QUOTE]You say that as if it was a bad thing. That joke got like 70 funny ratings and was completely worth it. :v:
(not implying that it wasn't a valid ban reason though, of course)
[QUOTE=RoboChimp2;46713647]I think the pre 2010 Doctor Who had a lot more cleaver explainations before all the magic and custard nonsense. It just got too whimsical after a while, some cleaver planning and a little believability never hurt. The Doctor isn't a wizard after all. I wish they'd work on the pay off a bit more, it always builds to something and then gets a watered down explaination which is very anticlimatic. Just saying.[/QUOTE]
Pre 2010 Doctor who was the doctor constantly moping over Rose like she was some emasculate saint of a companion. I could not take the 10th doctor seriously most times.
[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;46714966]Pre 2010 Doctor who was the doctor constantly moping over Rose like she was some emasculate saint of a companion. I could not take the 10th doctor seriously most times.[/QUOTE]He wasn't moping over rose the entire time, he was feeling remorse about the fact that he thought he'd had to kill his entire race to save the universe.
[QUOTE=RoboChimp2;46713647]I think the pre 2010 Doctor Who had a lot more [B]cleaver[/B] explainations before all the magic and custard nonsense. It just got too whimsical after a while, some [B]cleaver[/B] planning and a little believability never hurt. The Doctor isn't a wizard after all. I wish they'd work on the pay off a bit more, it always builds to something and then gets a watered down explaination which is very anticlimatic. Just saying.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://cdn.metrokitchen.com/images/uploads/wu-cl-cleaver.jpg[/IMG]
THIS is a cleaver.
[IMG]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uVX1b6t-zBI/UZZ7wk-gpSI/AAAAAAAAAv0/xTdXB8J8sM8/s1600/Nightmare-in-Silver-Doctor.png[/IMG]
THIS is a Clever.
[QUOTE=Chrisordie;46711669]
So long as it isn't painfully stupid[/QUOTE]
You know there's a line in the script which says...
[I]"Santa Claus locks Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer with a Key Fob"[/I]
I don't want it to share the same space in my head as [I]"the paving slab implies oral sex,"[/I] [I]"the fat starts walking"[/I] and [I]"the moon's an egg"[/I] :v:
[QUOTE=NuclearJesus;46716423][IMG]http://cdn.metrokitchen.com/images/uploads/wu-cl-cleaver.jpg[/IMG]
THIS is a cleaver.
[IMG]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uVX1b6t-zBI/UZZ7wk-gpSI/AAAAAAAAAv0/xTdXB8J8sM8/s1600/Nightmare-in-Silver-Doctor.png[/IMG]
THIS is a Clever.[/QUOTE]Fuck my spelling (I'm 26 and my brain still insists I spell like a 6 year old). Also, Matt Smith episodes were rarely clever.
[editline]15th December 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Grizz;46716486]You know there's a line in the script which says...
[I]"Santa Claus locks Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer with a Key Fob"[/I]
:v:[/QUOTE]Oh god.
[QUOTE=Grizz;46716486]You know there's a line in the script which says...
[I]"Santa Claus locks Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer with a Key Fob"[/I]
[/QUOTE]
Yeah but thats a wacky little joke, an aside to the whole event.
Its when we have SUDDENLY CGI SAVES THE DAY that the problems start to begin.
Or when Moffett forgets that Stories are supposed to have a beginning, a middle and an end.
Depends who is writing really.
[QUOTE=Grizz;46716486][I]"the paving slab implies oral sex,"[/I][/QUOTE]
lmao BRAVO RTD
how would it even work tho, assuming Elton's dick isn't tiny surely it would just hit the back of the slab.......
EDIT:
ITT: Questions I should have asked RTD
[QUOTE=Chrisordie;46716812]Yeah but thats a wacky little joke, an aside to the whole event.[/QUOTE]
A wacky gag which should never have left the tripe which was [B]The End of Time Part One[/B], it may be.. but for me, the whole event is a little disconcerting - especially if handled poorly which wouldn't surprise me. I didn't think Robin Hood would be declared real last series - even if him being the "Robot of Sherwood" would have been painfully obvious. Now we apparently have slightly-gangster Santa.
I'm all for Science Fantasy, but if Santa Claus is next to get the [I]'real, proper hero'[/I] treatment then I have to ask [I]what's next?[/I] I know Moffat has to have his Christmas be the most Christmassy Christmas Ever with towns called Christmas and everything, and it's all a bit of fun, especially for the kids, but I see it as something which DW shouldn't have touched.
If this truly is the honest-to-goodness Santa, who goes around the world delivering presents with his sleigh and reindeer, with a sprinkling of DW logic on top... then it's probably being filed under the moon being an egg in my attempts to suspend disbelief. If there's a proper sci-fi twist to Santa, then fantastic! But I don't see any way that Moffat is going to leave the younger audience with the belief that Santa is anything less than what he already is. There's always the [I]vague ambiguity / none of it really happened... or did it[/I] angle... but that would just be boring.
Yes, for once I'm being the absolute dumb cynic on this one before I've seen it... and I'm sure my being a Nick Frost fan will help... but so far it's all coming across as unnecessary. This is all blind speculation and ignoring the aliens / villians / base-under-siege side to the story - which could all be [I]awesome[/I]. Anything that gets compared to Alien/Aliens will grab my interest.
Of course I hope it's the best Christmas special ever - which it will be just because it has Peter Capaldi in it - but the Santa thing. Eh. Hope it's dealt with well for all involved. It's fine stating the barriers for entry as a reason why everything else is fine (time travel, two hearts, police box time machine....), but it's also a show which has just spent a lot of time debunking the afterlife as "not real" and "superstition." Rant over.
Natalie Gumede was talking about the special on Good Morning Britain. I expect it will hit the web soon enough. Also, the press are getting their hands on it tomorrow.
I'd be fine if it's the actual Santa. It's a family show and by children's perceptions Santa is real and thus for them it's not actually stepping outside the realms of reality.
[QUOTE=Freeze;46717795]I'd be fine if it's the actual Santa. It's a family show and by children's perceptions Santa is real and thus for them it's not actually stepping outside the realms of reality.[/QUOTE]
We'll return to this place when Frank Cottrell Boyce's Tooth Fairy episode is announced :v:
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;46717106]
how would it even work tho, assuming Elton's dick isn't tiny surely it would just hit the back of the slab.......[/QUOTE]
Perhaps future generations will debate this further, but this being Doctor Who, we can assume that the slab was bigger on the inside.
[QUOTE=RoboChimp2;46716510]Fuck my spelling (I'm 26 and my brain still insists I spell like a 6 year old). Also, Matt Smith episodes were rarely clever.
[/QUOTE]
That's actually Mr. Clever. Pretty much a Cyberman intelligence in the Doctor's brain.
Glad that Michelle Gomez keeps popping up on the Facebook pages and YouTube channels. She's the new Kingston of the Moffat family.
[QUOTE=Grizz;46719533]Glad that Michelle Gomez keeps popping up on the Facebook pages and YouTube channels. She's the new Kingston of the Moffat family.[/QUOTE]
I'd fuck her tbf
Trackboy tweeted this, spoiler tagging it as knowing him it could be a Series 9 hint:
[QUOTE][sp]I really do need to watch some Davros stories to reacquaint myself with him.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/iQtbh0I.jpg[/t]
I gotta say, this corner of my room is looking pretty awesome at the moment.
Jon Hamm watched Doctor Who growing up.
On the Lauren Laverne podcast he revealed he watched lots of British shows growing up including Doctor Who. Lauren points out there's a Dalek in the corridor to which he expresses delight.
Get. Him. In. The. Show.
[editline]15th December 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Grizz;46716486][I]"Santa Claus locks Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer with a Key Fob"[/I]
[/quote]
My biggest gripe with this (other than the fact it physically doesn't make any sense) is that the gag has done before. And better.
This is literally repeating the End of Time TARDIS lock joke. A memorable gag of a character locking a thing that isn't a car like a car.
The world doesn't have a limited amount of ideas, it's not like we've ran out in the last 4 years so we got to start reusing them. There's literally no reason for it. It's a small thing but it's frustrating.
Also, not to be pedantic, but Rudolph was invented in 1939 by Robert L. May.
Either this lends credence to Santa not being Santa, or Santa loved the book so much he named one of his Reindeer after him and stuck a red bulb on his nose.
Or it means Moffat has changed his mind and we can get that Sherlock crossover now, because he's a character in a book, too!
[url=https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1020834987930528]You should all watch this for *adjusts glasses*[/url]
To be fair, Rudolph has become a commonly accepted part of the Santa Clause myth.
No single person created the Santa Clause character, it's been put together over centuries.
And before anybody says it: Coca Cola did not make Santa Clause red. It's an urban legend. The red actually derives from Saint Nicholas the 4th century Bishop of Myra. The image of Santa today first became popular around the 1860s. Santa Clause had a variety of green, red and gold outfits. The red one he's most recognised for was likely popularised by advertising, Coca Cola probably played a part in that with many others, but they did not solely make him red.
I created Santa Clause.
Checkmate, Dan.
[QUOTE=Dan2593;46720942]To be fair, Rudolph has become a commonly accepted part of the Santa Clause myth.[/QUOTE]
That's probably how it will be justified in Moffat's DWM Q&A :v: It's just that the likes of "it's what children believe so it's fine" seems to make for a poor standard, is all. It has the potential to be the smuggest thing SM has done.
Or it's all connected to the Dream Crabs and it will all be fine.
My prediction: santa is explained away as being a robot or an alien or something, somehow threatening, the doctor has to "take him down", and everything is all wrapped up and the bad santa is away forever. Clara and the doctor shake hands or bump chests or whatever it is british people do when saying goodbye on christmas, and the doctor goes into the tardis only to find: a present, left for him on the console. It's verbally established that it wasn't left by Clara and it got there after the fake santa had been taken out. Camera zooms in on doctor's face of disbelief, some jingle-y music, sinister "ho-ho-ho" in the background, roll credits.
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