[QUOTE=AytonHunter;45316539]Haha, this is exactly what I remember! Playing it on the dreamcast, and hearing them both talk over each other, with those horrible cut-offs! xD
Seriously though, this is some damn impressive animation![/QUOTE]
I thought the cut off was on purpose considering Shadow is just talking smack.
[QUOTE=Dirty_Ape;45320352]I'm too aware of how their mouths seems to follow the camera. It wierds me out.[/QUOTE]
Now it's even weirder with the new design since his mouth is "normal"
[img]http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2843/12323433505_ae84c3be94.jpg[/img]
Looks too smooth IMO. Compare it to the actual Sega cgis and you can tell its p amateur when you compare.
Pretty good nonetheless but every animator needs to get this "super fluid" stuff out of here
[QUOTE=redBadger;45321402]Looks too smooth IMO. Compare it to the actual Sega cgis and you can tell its p amateur when you compare.
Pretty good nonetheless but every animator needs to get this "super fluid" stuff out of here[/QUOTE]
Too smooth? LMAO.
[QUOTE=redBadger;45321402]Looks too smooth IMO. Compare it to the actual Sega cgis and you can tell its p amateur when you compare.
Pretty good nonetheless but every animator needs to get this "super fluid" stuff out of here[/QUOTE]
the animations in the original game were janky as fuck and look pretty awful
this is much better
the only odd part of this video is that punch that shadow throws that looks like its going nowhere and how sonic appears to be dodging nothing.
[QUOTE=StrawberryClock;45321751]Too smooth? LMAO.[/QUOTE]
People aren't smooth. People have jerky movement not swift and elegant
[QUOTE=redBadger;45322155]People aren't smooth. People have jerky movement not swift and elegant[/QUOTE]
these a'rent people.
This video illustrates so very, painfully well how Shadow really is "Original: The Character (Do Not Steal)".
[QUOTE=StrawberryClock;45322796]This video illustrates so very, painfully well how Shadow really is "Original: The Character (Do Not Steal)".[/QUOTE]
ironically, and chronologically speaking, shadow is the original. He was created 50 years before whatever sonic's age is. which is one thing that confused the shit out of me when i was little playing this game.
[QUOTE=-ZeeBo-;45318764]Fuck you, you motherfucking drinking milk from a bag canadian homo[/QUOTE]
but i drink milk from a plastic jug
[QUOTE=noh_mercy;45323078]ironically, and chronologically speaking, shadow is the original. He was created 50 years before whatever sonic's age is. which is one thing that confused the shit out of me when i was little playing this game.[/QUOTE]
I think the only time they've addressed Sonic's age (at least as far as I can remember) is in Sonic Generations where the game opens with him having his 20th birthday, because Generations was released on the 20th anniversary of the franchise.
Sonic's age is completely irrelevant though, he's just a blue hedgehog who run fast and don't give a shit, don't need anything more than that.
[QUOTE=The Stills;45323153]I they only time they've addressed Sonic's age (at least as far as I can remember) is in Sonic Generations where the game opens with him having his 20th birthday, because Generations was released on the 20th anniversary of the franchise.
Sonic's age is completely irrelevant though, he's just a blue hedgehog who run fast and don't give a shit, don't need anything more than that.[/QUOTE]
Tails is forever 8, Amy's 12, Sonic's 15, Knuckles is 16, and Eggman/Robotnik's that ambiguously ripe old age of 'evil genius cartoon villain'.
I really don't mind Shadow. Only his own game had him going angsty and being annoying, and after fixing his shit at the end of that it somehow led to him being the single most competent hero in all of Sonic '06. Which isn't saying much, but hey.
This guy needs to do more scenes from the game.
[QUOTE=redBadger;45322155]People aren't smooth. People have jerky movement not swift and elegant[/QUOTE]
uh.
shadow was decent until OW THE EDGE and 06 happened
[QUOTE=artDecor;45329114]shadow was decent until OW THE EDGE and 06 happened[/QUOTE]
that game was a nightmare, i still remember shouting "Damn not here!" all the time. my reaction to this game was like seeing a kid using profanity for the first time, awkward and wimpy. It tries to be 'bad' with all that rock an roll + guns, but lots of shit like cheesy lines said in a deep 'bad' voice + dragon-ball-z-coping-chaos-blast + the fact that shooting people with guns just leaves them limping instead of dying (yet you can murder the aliens 'brutally'). the guns made no sense, in the intro you can see shadow cocking a mp5 like a shotgun, just shows that the devs never seen a real gun before...
[video=youtube;QoNEHIIy4RA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoNEHIIy4RA[/video]
[QUOTE=noh_mercy;45329780]that game was a nightmare, i still remember shouting "Damn not here!" all the time. my reaction to this game was like seeing a kid using profanity for the first time, awkward and wimpy. It tries to be 'bad' with all that rock an roll + guns, but lots of shit like cheesy lines said in a deep 'bad' voice + dragon-ball-z-coping-chaos-blast + the fact that shooting people with guns just leaves them limping instead of dying (yet you can murder the aliens 'brutally'). the guns made no sense, in the intro you can see shadow cocking a mp5 like a shotgun, just shows that the devs never seen a real gun before...
[video=youtube;QoNEHIIy4RA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoNEHIIy4RA[/video][/QUOTE]
It was literally an attempt by Sonic Team to appeal to the western fanbase using a 'dark' character like Shadow as the basis. What we got was an utter clusterfuck of stupidity and a badly designed game, which would carry over to Sonic 06 with shittons of fruitless ambition heaped ontop.
[quote]dragon-ball-z-coping-chaos-blast[/quote]
You realize the Super forms have always been a homage to Super Saiyan, along with the seven Chaos Emeralds referencing the Dragon Balls, right? They tried to downplay it after the Genesis days with things like the Master Emerald and Super Sonic's bright-green eyes turning red-orange in Adventure and beyond, (which ironically predated Dragon Ball GT with the 'negativity inside the plot macguffins powering the antagonist(s)'), but yeah, the series has always aped DBZ to a degree.
IMO:
i really didn't think of it like that, i have always thought of sonic as sega's attempt to 'outdo' mario, which is why you see sonic packed with features that were considered 'cool' (spikey hair, skater dude voice, fast, super saiyan) -> appeal to kids more ->sell more. I just didnt see sega borrowing from dragon ball series as 'homage', to me it was more like hey lets just cluster fuck a bunch of cool stuff and beat nintendo!
i could be horribly mistaken tho
[QUOTE=-ZeeBo-;45318764]Fuck you, you motherfucking drinking milk from a bag canadian homo
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Actually to correct him it's just those weird Ontario people who drink out of bags, probably due to being beside Quebec
no soap shoes 0/10
[QUOTE=Minimole;45330849]Actually to correct him it's just those [b]weird Ontario people[/b] who drink out of bags,[/QUOTE]
[img]http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-smith.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=noh_mercy;45329780]that game was a nightmare, i still remember shouting "Damn not here!" all the time. my reaction to this game was like seeing a kid using profanity for the first time, awkward and wimpy. It tries to be 'bad' with all that rock an roll + guns, but lots of shit like cheesy lines said in a deep 'bad' voice + dragon-ball-z-coping-chaos-blast + the fact that shooting people with guns just leaves them limping instead of dying (yet you can murder the aliens 'brutally'). the guns made no sense, in the intro you can see shadow cocking a mp5 like a shotgun, just shows that the devs never seen a real gun before...
[video=youtube;QoNEHIIy4RA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoNEHIIy4RA[/video][/QUOTE]
like what was even the deal with this game
was it supposed to be a sequel to SA2 or something
[QUOTE=redBadger;45322155]People aren't smooth. People have jerky movement not swift and elegant[/QUOTE]
Yeah, human beings can only move at 15fps. :downs:
[QUOTE=Rellow;45331180]Yeah, human beings can only move at 15fps. :downs:[/QUOTE]
Spline curves
Tangents
Bezier Handles
I'm just throwing these out here in case you want to look them up on Google. You might hear someone else using these words and not know what they're talking about.
[QUOTE=Ezhik;45331111]like what was even the deal with this game
was it supposed to be a sequel to SA2 or something[/QUOTE]
sonic heroes brought back Shadow after he seemingly died in SA2, but they didn't bother one goddamn bit to solve his amnesia subplot, leaving it on a cliffhanger for his own game. that game then tried to be a direct sequel to SA2 and answer questions that either nobody had in the first place, or were answered horribly
no one wanted the answer that Shadow was made from the blood of an alien, for example
[QUOTE=The Robster;45331531]Spline curves
Tangents
Bezier Handles
I'm just throwing these out here in case you want to look them up on Google. You might hear someone else using these words and not know what they're talking about.[/QUOTE]
it doesn't matter how you frame it, the original animation is still god awful to the point of weeping hilarity
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