[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;17113543]Depends on your view point.[/QUOTE]
Does not depend on nothing. Drugs may relieve your soul but always remember that your soul is locked inside your body, don't hurt your body too much, you may hurt your soul.
[QUOTE=vachon644;17113518]All drugs are bad. Don't be mistaken. Some are pretty harmless but every drug is bad, even tylenols.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. But it is a matter of personal opinion.
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[QUOTE=vachon644;17113576]Does not depend on nothing.[/QUOTE]
Your arrogance won't get you very far.
[QUOTE=vachon644;17113576]Drugs may relieve your soul but always remember that your soul is locked inside your body, don't hurt your body too much, you may hurt your soul.[/QUOTE]
Not everybody believes in souls, Mr. Vachon. I, for one, find the concept of an immaterial, intangible paranormal manifestation of our personality and the sum of our life experiences to be completely ludicrous, a laughable concept at best.
[QUOTE=Anubis678;17113712]I disagree. But it is a matter of personal opinion.[/QUOTE]
I smoke weed because I feel good when I am high. Though I know that smoking weed hurts me in the long run. I don't drink much alcohol because I know it's more addictive and more damaging that marijuana. Thinking that drugs are good for you is a problem. There are no good drugs, there are okay drugs. Don't be mistaken, seriously.
[QUOTE=vachon644;17113790]I smoke weed because I feel good when I am high.[/QUOTE]
You seem to think that this is the only reason that people do drugs. At least, that is the vibe I am getting. Just so you know, it isn't. Maybe you use drugs just to feel good for a few hours, but I don't.
[QUOTE=vachon644;17113790]Though I know that smoking weed hurts me in the long run.[/QUOTE]
Marijuana has been proven to do no lasting damage. Look it up.
[QUOTE=vachon644;17113790]I don't drink much alcohol because I know it's more addictive and more damaging that marijuana.[/QUOTE]
Fair enough.
[QUOTE=vachon644;17113790]Thinking that drugs are good for you is a problem.[/QUOTE]
Thinking that [b]some[/b] drugs are good for you is a problem. Thinking that all drugs are bad for you is ignorance.
[QUOTE=vachon644;17113790]There are no good drugs, there are okay drugs.[/QUOTE]
Again, ignorance. For example, consider LSD: It's often thought of as a fairly hard drug. However, LSD-25 (while pure) is completely non-toxic, doing no physical damage (although psychological damage is possible if the drug is done in an irresponsible manner by an inexperienced user).
[QUOTE=vachon644;17113790]Don't be mistaken, seriously.[/QUOTE]
Don't be so arrogant about your misinformation, seriously.
Drugs obviously can do damage. No ones debating that. Drugs do good, and it's no ones right to say who can and cannot do something besides their own. Tylenol can be bad for you, there's an easily reached OD limit.
In most cases there's more negative health effects than health benefits
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LSD doesn't harm you physically, but it can hurt your psyche or bring about a case of a psychological disorder.
Shrooms can hurt you similarly to LSD (albiet, probably less)
Salvia can really damage your ego and mental health if you have a bad trip, and the smoke is bad for your lungs
Of course, people do these drugs for the trip, which (in most cases) outweigh the health risks.
If all we cared about in life was living long, life would be boring as shit.
I don't care if I die early, as long as my life was fun, and meant something. That's all that should ever matter.
[QUOTE=Augmatic Disport;17114735]In most cases there's more negative health effects than health benefits[/QUOTE]
Yeah, with opiates, benzos, and stimulants. But we're not talking about opiates, benzos, or stimulants. We're talking about marijuana, and other psychedelics.
[QUOTE=Augmatic Disport;17114735]LSD doesn't harm you physically, but it can hurt your psyche or bring about a case of a psychological disorder.[/QUOTE]
1) If you are smart about your drug use, bad trips are easily avoidable. Like I said, it's all about being responsible (Set & Setting).
2) It won't cause a psychological disorder, but it can trigger a latent condition
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[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;17114807]If all we cared about in life was living long, life would be boring as shit.
I don't care if I die early, as long as my life was fun, and meant something. That's all that should ever matter.[/QUOTE]
I've already set an age cap on my life. I will either kill myself on my 70th birthday or if I ever start to develop Alzheimer's or dementia. Whichever comes first.
I'm told that the positive effects that marijuana has on the hippocampus and amygdala prevents Alzheimer's/dementia, but I'm not sure if that's true or not.
I have the same plan, but 10 years earlier. By the time i'm 60, chances are I'll be decrepit or dying. Sadly this is unrelated to my drug use.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;17114876]I have the same plan, but 10 years earlier. By the time i'm 60, chances are I'll be decrepit or dying. Sadly this is unrelated to my drug use.[/QUOTE]
I used to think 60, but honestly, that seems too young. My grandfather is in his mid-50's, and he is still operating at more than 90% of his prime mental capacity.
Yeah, it might be young, but as I said, dying/decrepit. My dads in his early 70s, and he's still working as a lawyer and doing great work. If i'm fine when I'm 60, i'll make it to 70 I hope.
I'd give them a pathetic, and undecidedly un-needed chat about the effects and problems, and hope they respect the drug they are experimenting with. Then offer to blaze up with them.
[QUOTE=Anubis678;17113930]
Marijuana has been proven to do no lasting damage. Look it up.
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Are you kidding me? Every drug do damage, and that's a fact. I am totally aware that the damages caused by marijuana are really low. [b]It has been proven that marijuana does lasting damage. [/b] This was proven by giving logic (just like IQ) tests to jamaicans that were smoking a lot of weed every day, and comparing those results with jamaicans that did none to almost no drugs. The ones that did no drugs scored better, this is fact my friend. I agree with you, smoking two grams every day won't do much but smoking let's say... an ounce a day [b]does[/b] do damage.
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Oh and, easy : inhaling smoke is just not good for you, if it's not good, it's bad (where is the line between very little harm and very little benefits?). Carcinogens are present in hemp.
Then don't inhale smoke. There are other ways to do it. THC Has no negative affects on your body. Smoke does, suffocation due to smoke does, whatever smoke causes is bad, THC and other cannaboids don't cause real, lasting damage.
Saying everything causes damage, and is bad is a terrible way to live. Food is bad for you if you aren't meticulous and drinking to much, or being in the wrong area breathing the wrong air is bad.
[QUOTE=vachon644;17121207]Are you kidding me? Every drug do damage, and that's a fact. I am totally aware that the damages caused by marijuana are really low. [b]It has been proven that marijuana does lasting damage. [/b] This was proven by giving logic (just like IQ) tests to jamaicans that were smoking a lot of weed every day, and comparing those results with jamaicans that did none to almost no drugs. The ones that did no drugs scored better, this is fact my friend. I agree with you, smoking two grams every day won't do much but smoking let's say... an ounce a day [b]does[/b] do damage.
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Oh and, easy : inhaling smoke is just not good for you, if it's not good, it's bad (where is the line between very little harm and very little benefits?). Carcinogens are present in hemp.[/QUOTE]
Sources. NOW.
Your fucking opinion does not constitute fact, so unless you can provide some fucking sources, your argument is completely invalid.
[url=http://www.webmd.com/cancer/brain-cancer/news/20090401/marijuana-chemical-may-fight-brain-cancer]WebMD: Marijuana Chemicals May Fight Brain Cancer[/url]
[url=http://www.webmd.com/news/20080904/marijuana-chemicals-may-fight-mrsa]WebMD: Marijuana Chemicals May Fight MRSA[/url]
[url=http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20030701/heavy-marijuana-use-doesnt-damage-brain]WebMD: Heavy Marijuana Use Doesn't Damage Brain[/url]
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[QUOTE=vachon644;17121207]Oh and, easy : inhaling smoke is just not good for you, if it's not good, it's bad (where is the line between very little harm and very little benefits?). Carcinogens are present in hemp.[/QUOTE]
I'm not smoking hemp. Are you?
Regardless of whether or not it's bad for you, it's not going to stop me from doing it.
I hate being banned on my main account.
i'm vaping :smug:
[QUOTE=Anubis678;17121327]Sources. NOW.
Your fucking opinion does not constitute fact, so unless you can provide some fucking sources, your argument is completely invalid.
[url=http://www.webmd.com/cancer/brain-cancer/news/20090401/marijuana-chemical-may-fight-brain-cancer]WebMD: Marijuana Chemicals May Fight Brain Cancer[/url]
[url=http://www.webmd.com/news/20080904/marijuana-chemicals-may-fight-mrsa]WebMD: Marijuana Chemicals May Fight MRSA[/url]
[url=http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20030701/heavy-marijuana-use-doesnt-damage-brain]WebMD: Heavy Marijuana Use Doesn't Damage Brain[/url]
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I'm not smoking hemp. Are you?[/QUOTE]
Alright then, my sources are your sources my friend.
[url]http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20020305/long-term-pot-smokers-risk-brain-damage[/url]
You can't rely entirely on statistics. Besides, as you probably know, smoking is harmful, but there are other ways to consume Cannabis.
[QUOTE=vachon644;17121478]Alright then, my sources are your sources my friend.
[url]http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20020305/long-term-pot-smokers-risk-brain-damage[/url][/QUOTE]
The title of that article is so misleading it hurts.
[quote]Long-Term Pot Smokers Risk Brain Damage[/quote]
They are talking about memory, folks.
[quote]Cannabis users made more errors on the tests and were significantly [B]less able to recall newly learned words.[/B][/quote]
WE BETTER STOP SMOKING RIGHT NOW NOOOOOOO
[quote] They also had more difficulty performing increasingly complex tasks.[/quote]
Can i please know the tasks, or are they too irrelevant.
[QUOTE=aridpheonix;17126113]The title of that article is so misleading it hurts.
They are talking about memory, folks.
WE BETTER STOP SMOKING RIGHT NOW NOOOOOOO
Can i please know the tasks, or are they too irrelevant.[/QUOTE]
ur cool
[QUOTE=aridpheonix;17126113]The title of that article is so misleading it hurts.
They are talking about memory, folks.
WE BETTER STOP SMOKING RIGHT NOW NOOOOOOO
Can i please know the tasks, or are they too irrelevant.[/QUOTE]
My point is NOT about THAT source but from the fact that I found a completely opposing "proof" on the same website as him.
[QUOTE=vachon644;17128085]My point is NOT about THAT source but from the fact that I found a completely opposing "proof" on the same website as him.[/QUOTE]
If you look hard enough, you can find as much proof that the moon landings were real as evidence for them being fake. From the users perspective of weed, there is little to no damage, and the damage shown, is memory loss, THAT GOES AWAY once you stop smoking weed.
Why the fuck are you arguing this anyways? So what if it's bad for you, I really don't think that matters.
i would catch them smoking and act furious
confiscate it and smoke it
I let em smoke weed so long as that's it, and i'll train a dog to sniff out drugs in general so if they even try to bring some other shit in the house, the dog would find it and i'd put an end to it.
that and i'd make sure they split anything they buy with me.
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[QUOTE=vachon644;17121478]Alright then, my sources are your sources my friend.
[url]http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20020305/long-term-pot-smokers-risk-brain-damage[/url][/QUOTE]
Your article is outdated, as such it is proven wrong by the one Anubis has. (for brain damage)
In the end, I'd probably trip acid and shrooms with my kids at some point once they're 19-20.
If I was a parent, I would make sure they only took the drugs responsibility and no over-the-counter meds, or things like cocaine/meth.
i'd be more impressed if they actually did that shit but didn't fuck themselves with it.
if you ever figure out your kids did hard shit and they aren't fucked up from it or still using or addicted at least they probably have really good judgment
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