See, this is why people hate vegans. - General

[QUOTE=Keyblockor;31058042]Although I respect vegans beliefs among many, some of them (and this accounts for everyone) who shove their beliefs down my throat have that respect and tolerance anhiliated. Like this so-called bitch. We were made to be omnivore, face it, we have incisors for a reason, we have the proper digestion system to eat not only meat but also vegetables, stop shoving your so-called "Happy life" down my throat, not only are you going to be losing alot of iron and protein that's found every single meat and are going to be malnutritioned, but you're also being so much of a bigot that this bitch will somehow turn the tables yelling "I'm not the bigot! you don't eat meat!" Who gives a fuck honestly, I hate how most of these minorities end up yelling for you to conform to their beliefs/lifestyle or you're somehow a fucking bigot (I've seen most of them.) and it makes no sense when they're the one who's intolerant. If the bitch wanted you to stop eating meat than she should save herself the agony and buy herself her own fridge and stop eating in the kitchen when you're eating, after all! She's being the one who hates it so she's the one who should change her lifestyle to avoid yours, then you can be happy. Fuck people in minorities who yell to conform to their beliefs or you're intolerant or a bigot.[/QUOTE] It's idiotic to believe that because we have canine teeth it automatically makes us omnivores. These "canine teeth" are canine in name only. Our canine teeth are flat, blunted, and shaped like a spade, perfect for biting and peeling soft fruit, just like that of an herbivorous horse or gorilla. Real canine teeth are conically shaped and really long and really sharp. The teeth of flesh-eating animals interlock like numerous pairs of scissors (like interlocking your fingers), perfect for ripping and tearing raw flesh from bone. The teeth of plant-eating animals sit on top of each other, perfect for grinding and chewing fibrous plant foods. The jaws of natural meat-eating animals only move up and down, all of the muscles are concentrated on biting with tremendous force and not allowing struggling prey to escape. Instead of moving their jaw side to side, they have huge neck muscles for thrashing their necks to rip apart flesh and guts. The strongest muscle of most meat-eating animals, like dogs, is their neck. This, along with their sharp, fang-like teeth are perfect for holding onto flailing prey that are trying to escape. Their teeth are perfect for ripping apart flesh from bone and swallowing their food whole, no chewing necessary. Not to mentions that if humans really were designed to eat meat as a regular part of our diet, it wouldn't end up killing us. The digestive system of bears, dogs, and raccoons, have an almost infinite ability to process cholesterol and saturated fats. The human body is very inefficient at removing cholesterol from the body because for the majority of human evolution (3.750 out of the 4 million years of our species' existence) our diet has consisted almost entirely of raw fruits, vegetables, seeds, nuts, and a small amount of animal foods. The more cholesterol-laden animal foods we eat, the more our blood vessels become clogged and the harder it is for our organs to receive oxygen, affecting stamina and physical endurance. If your blood vessels become sufficiently clogged, you will have a stroke or a heart attack (depending on if the vessels lead to your heart or your brain). Not to mention how our entire digestive system, from saliva to the intestines, is optimal for plants and not meat.

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;31062356]Think of it this way. How many people have been told to avoid meat for medical reasons? I can name some off the top of my head. Including Adolf Hitler, but you know. Now how many people have been told to avoid vegetables?[/QUOTE] some people are told to avoid physical activity that doesn't make it a bad thing to do

[QUOTE=GunFox;31062341] Not that I would ever actually do it, but I find the thought entertaining while I watch some dimwit trying to give a toast.[/QUOTE] yeah that's just unpleasant really

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;31061816]You've never tried a New York street-vendor hotdog then. It tastes like [i]magic[/i]. [/QUOTE] Chicago hot dog master race. It's like a blowjob in a meaty tube. Just don't put ketchup on it, you'll be lynched within seconds.

[QUOTE=TBFundy;31062348]you act like it's easy to just drop everything and stop being around people who dislike you[/QUOTE] when it comes to vegans, in all likely hood you can [editline]11th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=TBFundy;31062387]some people are told to avoid physical activity that doesn't make it a bad thing to do[/QUOTE] i think his point was more that it isn't really uncommon

[QUOTE=thisispain;31062253]one day when eating meat i suffered a violent reaction in my stomach that hurt a lot and i went to the doctor and the doctor said that the meat was negatively affecting my stomach so i shouldn't eat it for a while [/QUOTE] haha bullshit

[QUOTE=XxTheAvengerxX;31062381] words[/QUOTE] we are omnivores go to any scientific community and claim otherwise and you'll get laughed at every day of the week and twice on sunday

[QUOTE=Mon;31062407]haha bullshit[/QUOTE] if you say so

[QUOTE=XxTheAvengerxX;31062381]It's idiotic to believe that because we have canine teeth it automatically makes us omnivores. These "canine teeth" are canine in name only. Our canine teeth are flat, blunted, and shaped like a spade, perfect for biting and peeling soft fruit, just like that of an herbivorous horse or gorilla. Real canine teeth are conically shaped and really long and really sharp. The teeth of flesh-eating animals interlock like numerous pairs of scissors (like interlocking your fingers), perfect for ripping and tearing raw flesh from bone. The teeth of plant-eating animals sit on top of each other, perfect for grinding and chewing fibrous plant foods. The jaws of natural meat-eating animals only move up and down, all of the muscles are concentrated on biting with tremendous force and not allowing struggling prey to escape. Instead of moving their jaw side to side, they have huge neck muscles for thrashing their necks to rip apart flesh and guts. The strongest muscle of most meat-eating animals, like dogs, is their neck. This, along with their sharp, fang-like teeth are perfect for holding onto flailing prey that are trying to escape. Their teeth are perfect for ripping apart flesh from bone and swallowing their food whole, no chewing necessary. Not to mentions that if humans really were designed to eat meat as a regular part of our diet, it wouldn't end up killing us. The digestive system of bears, dogs, and raccoons, have an almost infinite ability to process cholesterol and saturated fats. The human body is very inefficient at removing cholesterol from the body because for the majority of human evolution (3.750 out of the 4 million years of our species' existence) our diet has consisted almost entirely of raw fruits, vegetables, seeds, nuts, and a small amount of animal foods. The more cholesterol-laden animal foods we eat, the more our blood vessels become clogged and the harder it is for our organs to receive oxygen, affecting stamina and physical endurance. If your blood vessels become sufficiently clogged, you will have a stroke or a heart attack (depending on if the vessels lead to your heart or your brain). Not to mention how our entire digestive system, from saliva to the intestines, is optimal for plants and not meat.[/QUOTE] The reason our jaws are so pussyish is because we evolved to use tools and shit to break our food for us, instead of biting down and ripping it, raw, right off the bone. In turn, our jaw muscles lost strength, which was unneeded. In turn, we were able to grow our skulls' brain cases much larger, allowing us to become the big-brained animals we are today.

[QUOTE=Mon;31062407]haha bullshit[/QUOTE] I'm Mon I don't have a medical degree but I know more than doctors

[QUOTE=Zeke129;31062475]I'm Mon I don't have a medical degree but I know more than doctors[/QUOTE] chyeah haven't you heard of THE GOOGLE

[QUOTE=TBFundy;31062423]we are omnivores go to any scientific community and claim otherwise and you'll get laughed at every day of the week and twice on sunday[/QUOTE] Okay so we have the ability to eat both meat and various vegetables. Technically we're omnivores yada yada yada So do most animals. The point I'm making here is that clearly the human species would be in much better condition healthwise if we stuck to mostly plant foods. The only reason humans evolved to digest meat was because it was the easiest high density caloric source available at the time. There is no reason to eat an excess of meat with today's conditions in a first world country.

clearly people can eat anything they want, regardless of how many sociopath's there are on webforums declaring it as wrong look at that bastard not eating meat, i bet you right now he's not eating meat while we are talking that's disgusting

[QUOTE=thisispain;31062520]clearly people can eat anything they want, regardless of how many sociopath's there are on webforums declaring it as wrong look at that bastard not eating meat, i bet you right now he's not eating meat while we are talking that's disgusting[/QUOTE] RESPECT MY OPINION OR YOU'RE A SOCIOPATH

[QUOTE=Mon;31062535]RESPECT MY OPINION OR YOU'RE A SOCIOPATH[/QUOTE] no stop saying strange weird things or you're a sociopath for instance hatred of people based on very benign things could be classified as being a sociopath

I'd suggest watching [i]Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead[/i] for anyone who hasn't already

[QUOTE=XxTheAvengerxX;31062511]Okay so we have the ability to eat both meat and various vegetables. Technically we're omnivores yada yada yada So do most animals. The point I'm making here is that clearly the human species would be in much better condition healthwise if we stuck to mostly plant foods. The only reason humans evolved to digest meat was because it was the easiest high density caloric source available at the time. There is no reason to eat an excess of meat with today's conditions in a first world country.[/QUOTE] an excess of anything is bad for you, you know if I eat an excess of fruit my stomach gets ill and I have a violent shit on the loo btw, you'll get laughed at an equal amount in a scientific community if you said we should stick to veggies [QUOTE=thisispain;31062557]no stop saying strange weird things or you're a sociopath for instance hatred of people based on very benign things could be classified as being a sociopath[/QUOTE] i'm on the record here saying I don't hate you besides most of these people wouldn't hate someone for simply eating veggies only, anonymity gives you some boisterous ideals

[QUOTE=TBFundy;31062565]an excess of anything is bad for you, you know if I eat an excess of fruit my stomach gets ill and I have a violent shit on the loo btw, you'll get laughed at an equal amount in a scientific community if you said we should stick to veggies[/QUOTE] How many scientific communities are you a part of? Oh yeah, that's right, none. Now stop being an idiot and form a real argument.

[QUOTE=TBFundy;31062565] btw, you'll get laughed at an equal amount in a scientific community if you said we should stick to veggies[/QUOTE] why or how would he tell a scientific community not to eat meat in what world exactly do you operate in? [editline]11th July 2011[/editline] do you think scientific communities just fucking sit around reading emails and laugh at them at the World Scientists Community Fair

[QUOTE=XxTheAvengerxX;31062381]It's idiotic to believe that because we have canine teeth it automatically makes us omnivores. These "canine teeth" are canine in name only. Our canine teeth are flat, blunted, and shaped like a spade, perfect for biting and peeling soft fruit, just like that of an herbivorous horse or gorilla. Real canine teeth are conically shaped and really long and really sharp. The teeth of flesh-eating animals interlock like numerous pairs of scissors (like interlocking your fingers), perfect for ripping and tearing raw flesh from bone. The teeth of plant-eating animals sit on top of each other, perfect for grinding and chewing fibrous plant foods.[/QUOTE] And yet apes, chimps, and baboons all have a variety of subspecies that eat meat. [quote]The jaws of natural meat-eating animals only move up and down, all of the muscles are concentrated on biting with tremendous force and not allowing struggling prey to escape. Instead of moving their jaw side to side, they have huge neck muscles for thrashing their necks to rip apart flesh and guts. The strongest muscle of most meat-eating animals, like dogs, is their neck. This, along with their sharp, fang-like teeth are perfect for holding onto flailing prey that are trying to escape. Their teeth are perfect for ripping apart flesh from bone and swallowing their food whole, no chewing necessary.[/quote] We are omnivores who do not rely on our jaw to kill prey. We have spent millions of years killing them with our hands, rocks, or tools. Blunt teeth are quite capable of consuming meat, but sharp teeth have a huge problem with plants. So, for an omnivorous creature, they would likely favor blunted teeth such as ours. [quote]Not to mentions that if humans really were designed to eat meat as a regular part of our diet, it wouldn't end up killing us. The digestive system of bears, dogs, and raccoons, have an almost infinite ability to process cholesterol and saturated fats.[/quote] It doesn't kill us. Are you some kind of time traveler from the 1940's? We can handle huge amounts of meat without any sort of issue. [quote]The human body is very inefficient at removing cholesterol from the body because for the majority of human evolution (3.750 out of the 4 million years of our species' existence) our diet has consisted almost entirely of raw fruits, vegetables, seeds, nuts, and a small amount of animal foods.[/quote] Given the fact that our eyes detect movement, are located on the front of our head, rely on advanced pattern recognition, have a narrow field of vision, are among the most flexible in terms of lighting requirements in the animal kingdom, and our brain generates a pleasure response when hunting, which are all attributes of a predator, I think it is safe to assume that early man spent a great deal of time hunting. Even assuming early man could survive by scavenging entirely, he would get bored. Humans 200,000 years ago were just as intelligent as you are, so to assume that they were content just wandering around picking berries, is ridiculous. They wanted the stuff that tasted good, gave them lots of energy, and was entertaining as hell to obtain. [quote]The more cholesterol-laden animal foods we eat, the more our blood vessels become clogged and the harder it is for our organs to receive oxygen, affecting stamina and physical endurance. If your blood vessels become sufficiently clogged, you will have a stroke or a heart attack (depending on if the vessels lead to your heart or your brain).[/quote] Not only is this not true, but it is actually backwards. [URL="http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2002-11-18-adkins_x.htm"]http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2002-11-18-adkins_x.htm [/URL] [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/17/AR2008071701058.html"]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/17/AR2008071701058.html [/URL] [URL="http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/news/20100802/low-carb-diets-improve-cholesterol-long-term"]http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/news/20100802/low-carb-diets-improve-cholesterol-long-term [/URL] [URL="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030522083022.htm"]http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030522083022.htm [/URL] Increasing meat (and thus fat) intake and reducing carb intake actually works out better in the long term than reducing fat intake when it comes to cholesterol. (It also works out better in pretty much every other category) [quote]Not to mention how our entire digestive system, from saliva to the intestines, is optimal for plants and not meat.[/quote] Not really. Here, you can even test this one yourself. Eat a diet of mostly meat for a few weeks. Then eat vegetarian for a few weeks. You will have pooped a fuckton as a vegetarian, whereas on the high meat diet, you will have pooped very little. This seems childish, but it is a solid (no pun intended) indicator at which your body is more capable of absorbing. This also works with dogs. Feed them raw meat only and after a few days their poop will change and they will dump like half or a third as much. It will also biodegrade much faster and doesn't seem to kill my plants.

[QUOTE=XxTheAvengerxX;31062581]How many scientific communities are you a part of then? None. Now stop being an idiot and form a real argument.[/QUOTE] testy are we

[QUOTE=TBFundy;31062660]testy are we[/QUOTE] i'm really angry because i love insults and hate it when people ruin the good name of insults by putting out crappy insults

[QUOTE=XxTheAvengerxX;31062381]The human body is very inefficient at removing cholesterol from the body because for the majority of human evolution (3.750 out of the 4 million years of our species' existence) our diet has consisted almost entirely of raw fruits, vegetables, seeds, nuts, and a small amount of animal foods. The more cholesterol-laden animal foods we eat, the more our blood vessels become clogged and the harder it is for our organs to receive oxygen, affecting stamina and physical endurance. If your blood vessels become sufficiently clogged, you will have a stroke or a heart attack (depending on if the vessels lead to your heart or your brain). [/QUOTE] are you retarded blood cholesterol has very little to do with your food cholesterol son that's why 85% of your body's cholesterol is produced in the liver

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[QUOTE=GunFox;31062635] You will have pooped a fuckton as a vegetarian, whereas on the high meat diet, you will have pooped very little. This seems childish, but it is a solid (no pun intended) indicator at which your body is more capable of absorbing. [/QUOTE] there's so much wrong with what you've just written i mean [editline]11th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Mon;31062691]are you retarded blood cholesterol has very little to do with your food cholesterol son that's why 85% of your body's cholesterol is produced in the liver[/QUOTE] food cholesterol?

[QUOTE=thisispain;31062588]why or how would he tell a scientific community not to eat meat in what world exactly do you operate in? [editline]11th July 2011[/editline] do you think scientific communities just fucking sit around reading emails and laugh at them at the World Scientists Community Fair[/QUOTE] the point of what I said is that if you ask anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of advanced biology you'd see that half the stuff he posted isn't backed with science not for you to take and make a asinine literal context lmfao

[QUOTE=thisispain;31062761]food cholesterol?[/QUOTE] dietary whatever sperg i dare you

[QUOTE=TBFundy;31062787]the point of what I said is that if you ask anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of advanced biology you'd see that half the stuff he posted isn't backed with science not for you to take and make a asinine literal context lmfao[/QUOTE] what about the other half then

[quote] It doesn't kill us. Are you some kind of time traveler from the 1940's? We can handle huge amounts of meat without any sort of issue.[/quote] Yes it does. Animal products are one of the leading causes of heart disease and other health issues. [quote] Given the fact that our eyes detect movement, are located on the front of our head, rely on advanced pattern recognition, have a narrow field of vision, are among the most flexible in terms of lighting requirements in the animal kingdom[/quote] This is irrevalent considering that many other strictly herbivorous apes have these traits as well. [quote] Not only is this not true, but it is actually backwards. [URL="http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2002-11-18-adkins_x.htm"]http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2002-11-18-adkins_x.htm [/URL] [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/17/AR2008071701058.html"]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/17/AR2008071701058.html [/URL] [URL="http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/news/20100802/low-carb-diets-improve-cholesterol-long-term"]http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/news/20100802/low-carb-diets-improve-cholesterol-long-term [/URL] [URL="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030522083022.htm"]http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030522083022.htm [/URL] Increasing meat (and thus fat) intake and reducing carb intake actually works out better in the long term than reducing fat intake when it comes to cholesterol. (It also works out better in pretty much every other category)[/quote] Not true at all. My mother had very high LDL cholesterol and she reduced it to very good levels in 3 weeks by eating a mostly vegetarian diet low in saturated fats. [quote]Not really. Here, you can even test this one yourself. Eat a diet of mostly meat for a few weeks. Then eat vegetarian for a few weeks. You will have pooped a fuckton as a vegetarian, whereas on the high meat diet, you will have pooped very little. This seems childish, but it is a solid (no pun intended) indicator at which your body is more capable of absorbing. This also works with dogs. Feed them raw meat only and after a few days their poop will change and they will dump like half or a third as much. It will also biodegrade much faster and doesn't seem to kill my plants.[/QUOTE] This is irrelevant and unscientific. Now look at the anatomy: [url]http://www.vegsource.com/articles2/anatomy_mills.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=thisispain;31062830]what about the other half then[/QUOTE] what about it