[QUOTE=XxTheAvengerxX;31063321]I'm too lazy to bother citing sources
I'll admit it
[editline]11th July 2011[/editline]
No shit. I'm talking about meat not insects[/QUOTE]
AKA you don't have proof because you don't have sources.
[QUOTE=XxTheAvengerxX;31063321]No shit. I'm talking about meat not insects. Hardly any primates eat meat[/QUOTE]
a herbivore is a creature which relies entirely on plants for food
last time i checked insects aren't plants
[QUOTE=XxTheAvengerxX;31063321]I'm too lazy to bother citing sources
I'll admit it
[editline]11th July 2011[/editline]
No shit. I'm talking about meat not insects[/QUOTE]
wow
insects are composed of meat
they are living organisms composed of tissue
did this simple fact suddenly escape you or what
[QUOTE=Zeke129;31063335]XxTheAvengerxX you're probably the worst person I've had the unfortunate honour of being on the same side of an argument with[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the valiant honor you have now bestowed upon me
[editline]11th July 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ownederd;31063343]wow
insects are composed of meat
they are living organisms composed of tissue
did this simple fact suddenly escape you or what[/QUOTE]
okay but from a nutritional standpoint the tissues in insects and say, cows for example are vastly different. and my argument was on a nutritional basis mostly
[QUOTE=Rubs10;31063272]Does the possibility exist that we can get on track?
The argument from the lady in the OP is that it's OK to tell people they shouldn't eat meat.
I speculate that the lady applies the concept of "do whatever you want, so long as it doesn't harm someone else", but considers animals to be "someone else".
The only way we can resolve this conflict, is to know whether or not it's OK to kill animals.[/QUOTE]
Making products from animal processes (bee honey, milk) is A-okay with me, not removing said resource will likely cause problems for the animal involved. Making products [i]from[/i] animals is much more difficult to explain. But hey, things die off naturally, we're artificially replicating the circle of life.
Due to our lifestyle, we've made way too many animals to consistently feed if we all just stopped slaughtering. As such, we have to keep the killing (or neuter every single form of livestock we have) to keep the poor wittle animals from dying even more horribly than being jammed in a small box for years then sliced up.
[QUOTE=XxTheAvengerxX;31063321]I'm too lazy to bother citing sources
I'll admit it
[editline]11th July 2011[/editline]
No shit. I'm talking about meat not insects. Hardly any primates eat meat[/QUOTE]
insects are meat you dumb cunt
[QUOTE=Rubs10;31063272]Does the possibility exist that we can get on track?
The argument from the lady in the OP is that it's OK to tell people they shouldn't eat meat.
I speculate that the lady applies the concept of "do whatever you want, so long as it doesn't harm someone else", but considers animals to be "someone else".
The only way we can resolve this conflict, is to know whether or not it's OK to kill animals.[/QUOTE]
Yes, otherwise, there will never be world peace.
Animals are OK to kill for food because, well. That's what many animals do, they kill for food, only thing that isn't fine in the case of killing animals for food. Is how they do it in slaughterhouses with cramped up animals.
[QUOTE=Mon;31063341]a herbivore is a creature which relies entirely on plants for food
last time i checked insects aren't plants[/QUOTE]
Last time I checked, locusts were a type of vegetable. :v:
[QUOTE=XxTheAvengerxX;31063352]Thanks for the valiant honor you have now bestowed upon me
[editline]11th July 2011[/editline]
okay but from a nutritional standpoint the tissues in insects and say, cows for example are vastly different. and my argument was on a nutritional basis mostly[/QUOTE]
The tissues in chickens are very different from cows as well, are you saying chicken isn't a meat?
[QUOTE=XxTheAvengerxX;31063352]Thanks for the valiant honor you have now bestowed upon me
[editline]11th July 2011[/editline]
okay but from a nutritional standpoint the tissues in insects and say, cows for example are vastly different. and my argument was on a nutritional basis mostly[/QUOTE] per gram, your average insect has considerably more nutritional value than most any livestock
Is the current debate about anything that really matters? It seems like you're debating about what's meat and what isn't.
[QUOTE=XxTheAvengerxX;31063352]okay but from a nutritional standpoint the tissues in insects and say, cows for example are vastly different. and my argument was on a nutritional basis mostly[/QUOTE]
they're both living animals made up of tissue and thus you are eating meat when you consume them
the fact that you are over-trivializing the argument does not fit into my head in any shape or form
[QUOTE=Gordy H.;31063391]The tissues in chickens are very different from cows as well, are you saying chicken isn't a meat?[/QUOTE]
They are both composed of mainly saturated fats and proteins. The main criteria for "meat" in a nutritional standpoint
[editline]11th July 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Rubs10;31063398]Is the current debate about anything that really matters?[/QUOTE]
not really
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;31063395]per gram, your average insect has considerably more nutritional value than most any livestock[/QUOTE]
[img]http://imgkk.com/i/qx4-.gif[/img]
really this is something you should have learned in elementary school
and before you go saying "herp derp we should be eating the producers then" no there is no protein in grass
[QUOTE=Ownederd;31063411]the fact that you are over-trivializing the argument does not fit into my head in any shape or form[/QUOTE]
open your thick skull a bit more and maybe it'll fit you dimwit
[editline]12th July 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;31063395]per gram, your average insect has considerably more nutritional value than most any livestock[/QUOTE]
I agree with this statement. I am arguing against consumption on a large scale of cows and other traditional livestock that are high in saturated fats and low in overall nutrition, not against insects
[QUOTE=XxTheAvengerxX;31063427]open your thick skull a bit more and maybe it'll fit you dimwit
[editline]12th July 2011[/editline]
I agree with this statement. I am arguing against consumption on a large scale of cows and other traditional livestock that are high in saturated fats and low in overall nutrition, not against insects[/QUOTE]
I'm just going to pop in here and ask if you're stupid or just trolling
take your time, we're all waiting.
humans have been eating meat and vegetables of any caliber since we could develop the ability to do so
what makes you think we'll stop now
Tell her to
[IMG]http://i54.tinypic.com/1zzgqgy.jpg[/IMG]
See, this is why people hate vegans.
[QUOTE=Ownederd;31063469]humans have been eating meat and vegetables of any caliber since we could develop the ability to do so
what makes you think we'll stop now[/QUOTE]
nothing does
in fact in no way did I ever imply at any point that they would
[QUOTE=Dead snipe;31063465]I'm just going to pop in here and ask if you're stupid or just trolling
take your time, we're all waiting.[/QUOTE]
well
thisispain eat whatever you want I still think you're one of the smarter people i've had the pleasure of talking to on the internet
[QUOTE=Mon;31063477]See, this is why people hate vegans.[/QUOTE]
Yes, that would be the title of the thread.
Point?
[QUOTE=XxTheAvengerxX;31063489]Yes, that would be the title of the thread.
Point?[/QUOTE]
it's subjective but i think he's referring to you
[QUOTE=Ownederd;31063499]it's subjective but i think he's referring to you[/QUOTE]
I'm not even a vegan. Hell I'm not even a vegetarian either
[QUOTE=XxTheAvengerxX;31063507]I'm not even a vegan. Hell I'm not even a vegetarian either[/QUOTE]
...
get the fuck out of here
[QUOTE=TBFundy;31063488]well
thisispain eat whatever you want I still think you're one of the smarter people i've had the pleasure of talking to on the internet[/QUOTE]are we looking at the same thisispain?
sure in comparison to theavenger he looks like a modern einstein but calling him one of the smarter people on the internet is taking it pretty far
[editline]12th July 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=XxTheAvengerxX;31063507]I'm not even a vegan. Hell I'm not even a vegetarian either[/QUOTE]
so what the fuck are you arguing for?
[QUOTE=Mon;31063518]...
get the fuck out of here[/QUOTE]
I'm not really sure what you're trying to get across here. I made it clear that I'm simply playing devil's advocate on the last page
[QUOTE=XxTheAvengerxX;31063526]I'm not really sure what you're trying to get across here. I made it clear that I'm simply playing devil's advocate on the last page[/QUOTE]so you're being a dumbass pretty much
[QUOTE=XxTheAvengerxX;31063526]I'm not really sure what you're trying to get across here. I made it clear that I'm simply playing devil's advocate on the last page[/QUOTE]
holy shit dude
that was the most retarded debate in history.
[QUOTE=XxTheAvengerxX;31063526]I'm not really sure what you're trying to get across here. I made it clear that I'm simply playing devil's advocate on the last page[/QUOTE]
just...
just get out before you hurt yourself
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