See, this is why people hate vegans. - General

What would I be called, since I don't eat meat from wild animals (moose, whale e.t.c.), but I eat any other meat?

I don't get vegetarians, vegans, or whatever they want to be called. We humans are tailor-made to eat all sorts of things, and with that ability comes the need for nutrients you can only find in certain foods, like iron, only found in meat. And i don't get vegans the most. Honey, milk? Seriously? Now, those guys are just fine eating their own way, slowly dying or taking pharmaceutical supplementary pills by the bottle, but when one of them goes and shoves their weird habits in your face, you can compare them to the annoying minority that furries or ponyfags have. "I'm a VEGAN and you should BE A VEGAN TOO. LOOK AT HOW MUCH OF A VEGAN I AM, BASK IN MY VEGANITY"

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;31080676]You realize that at this point if we were to leave farm animals to their own devices and not cultivate and control their population they'd overpopulate and end up either starving, rotting, and polluting water/crops with their rotting corpses or wrecking farmer's fields eating their crops for sustenance and leading to lost profits and higher food costs. This is the reason hunters are only allowed certain numbers of each animal per hunting season, they control the animal population so that they don't overpopulate and become destructive. They're conservationists, you could say the same of farmers. That, and then if the farmers ended up shooting the cow that was wrecking his crops, nobody would eat it and the meat would go to waste, and due to the reason most of the pushy, annoying vegans are vegan the farmer would be seen as a heinous criminal who committed the worst crime possibly imaginable. If we didn't control cow populace any farther, they would run around by the millions, looking for something to eat, and destroying crop fields in the process.[/QUOTE] cows chickens and other animals not encountered in the wild probably would be extinct by now anyway

[QUOTE=Shadaez;31079417] and if a cow isn't producing milk because it's having a bunch of babies it doesn't either, and if we don't have millions of chickens for their eggs they aren't producing millions of eggs either and no, I don't want you to stop eating animal products, although I'm sure eating a bit less would help.[/QUOTE] Telling people to stop eating necessary proteins and nutrients isn't sound health advice. [editline]13th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Shadaez;31080137]err it doesn't make any sense, though... pesticides exist with or without animals? what does not eating animals have to do with pesticides[/QUOTE] Do you know what agriculture is?

[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;31063206]fuck man you are the worst poster I have ever seen anywhere[/QUOTE] 2nd worst, I think AliLegend is the worst and what a coincidence that he also posted in a thread that had to do with vegans

[QUOTE=amute;31085635]Telling people to stop eating necessary proteins and nutrients isn't sound health advice. [editline]13th July 2011[/editline] Do you know what agriculture is?[/QUOTE] someone PLEASE explain how less meat = more pesticides and you'd be fine if you cut your meta intake by half, I'm not suggesting that though, I assure you you're getting plenty of 'necessary protein and nutrients'

I love the fact she compares child abusing with eating meat. Force her to watch "Epic meal time" and then force her to eat something meaty.

[QUOTE=Shadaez;31086613]someone PLEASE explain how less meat = more pesticides[/quote] You eat more vegetation in place of it, tofu included. Agriculture uses excessive amounts of pesticides. Now, it's pretty easy to comprehend. [quote]and you'd be fine if you cut your meta intake by half, I'm not suggesting that though, I assure you you're getting plenty of 'necessary protein and nutrients'[/QUOTE] From where?

[QUOTE=mac338;31085226]What would I be called, since I don't eat meat from wild animals (moose, whale e.t.c.), but I eat any other meat?[/QUOTE] Normal?

The only reason animals go extinct is because we don't eat them.

[QUOTE=amute;31086746]You eat more vegetation in place of it, tofu included. Agriculture uses excessive amounts of pesticides. Now, it's pretty easy to comprehend. [/QUOTE] But through bioaccumulation wouldn't they be concentrated in the meat, especially considering meat industry feed has less stringent food safety standards than human food (with the exception of China). [editline]13th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=amute;31086746] From where?[/QUOTE] Vegetables, nuts, fruits, tubers, eggs?

Shit I didn't eat anything for 20 hours and you come up with a meat discussion.

you should put her in a cellar like in saw and instead of cutting of limbs and shit force her to eat meat to get out.

[img]http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo309/IrishNinja456/Deadpool-Vegetarians.jpg[/img] Be Captain America, as long as they are Captain America too. Also, I'm curious, what's facepunch's stance on pesketarions?

I think its stupid when people decide to try to cram their beliefs down your throat.I beileve that everyone deserves to have their own opinion,but when somebody does something like that,I can see that your roomate must be either a very hardcore vegan,a stuck up bitch,or both.For instance recently my friend was driving me back to my apartment after we had both gone to a party,and he started trying to get me into politics.Now normally,I would ignore something like this,but he seemed dead on at making me get sucked into politics.The solution?I opened the door,rolled out the car,and walked home.I think you need to have a discussion with her and put her in her place.

[QUOTE=CdeMonkey;31088724]Also, I'm curious, what's facepunch's stance on pesketarions?[/QUOTE] I guess the idea is that fish and molluscs are less intelligent and thus less important and able to suffer less than cows, pigs etc. which makes sense, but while that is undoubtedly true for most invertebrates, I'm not sure whether it holds up when it comes to fish.

I don't care if someone wants to be vegan or vegetarian, that's their choice, but when they start going crazy at you for not sharing their views like that roommate in the OP there's a problem. I don't like the fact that meat is from slaughtered animals so I can understand their logic but I also know that animals eating eachother is a fact of nature which will never change. I also plain don't have the willpower to not eat meat, it tastes too good! A girl I knew back in school became vegetarian and started bitching at the rest of us for eating meat, calling us murderers for eating bacon flavoured crisps even. It got really annoying, she started trying to make us watch videos of animal slaughters to try and convert us too. eventually she quit it though, she's still vegetarian but probably realised that the bitching did nothing more than just piss everyone off. [QUOTE=CdeMonkey;31088724] Also, I'm curious, what's facepunch's stance on pesketarions?[/QUOTE] It's their own choice but I personally find this stupid if the concern is animal cruelty. Fish are alive, concious and feel pain just like land animals. If it's for other dietary reasons or just simply due to disliking other types of meat then fair enough.

I have 2 friends who are vegan. They don't mind if we eat meat or other animal products in front of them. One of them just tells us all to go vegan and we all laugh at the idea and he knows that he has no hope, it just makes us all laugh.

Throw all the vegetables away and tell her that you feel uncomfortable with all the vegetables in the house. Follow up by asking her why she buys so many vegetables, it's not like she'll eat even half of it.

I've been a vegetarian for 3 years and I never shove my own views or morals down someone else's throat. This is how you make people hate you. Hell, when I host barbecues at my place I even cook meat for people. Vegetarians and vegans who rag on you for being "an immoral animal abusing scum" are retarded and please tell them to fuck off. We're not all bad.

[QUOTE=ThisGuy0;31089009]I guess the idea is that fish and molluscs are less intelligent and thus less important and able to suffer less than cows, pigs etc. which makes sense, but while that is undoubtedly true for most invertebrates, I'm not sure whether it holds up when it comes to fish.[/QUOTE] Some people may just do it because white meat is much better for you than red meat. [editline]14th July 2011[/editline] Anyway, I will be getting into a vegetarian (probably just start as weekday vegetarian) diet once I get out of highschool. Almost everything I can cook involves some sort of meat so I can't be dedicating a bunch of time and effort to becoming a vegetarian when I'll be in year 12 next year. Just mess up my groove too much. [editline]14th July 2011[/editline] Also, it's a general principle of any and every ideal that you hold that [b]no one gives a fuck about it[/b] and you should keep it to yourself unless they are actually interested. Otherwise it's just a waste of effort.

If they shove their idealism down your throat, literally shove meat into their mouth and make them eat it. If they don't honour your opinion then you shouldn't honour their's.

I get the feeling no-one here appreciates how repulsive meat can be to a vegan/vegetarian who doesn't eat meat for ethical reasons. Yeah, I share most of your sentiments about not shoving my feelings down people's throats, as do most of us, as such I don't comment on anybody else's eating habits, even if they're tucking into a huge steak. I still find it completely disgusting, but I won't tell them anything like that or even make any implications towards it - that'd be pretty damn rude, assuming they're not deliberately trying to get on my nerves. The same is true for most vegans I find, so please consider that. In any case, the hypocriticism here is pretty maddening, I don't think I've seen a single thread on facepunch about vegetarianism or veganism in which someone hasn't said: "You shouldn't force your way of life down our throats!" before posting a giant picture of meat and taking it incredibly personally. It's pretty much the same in real life, I've lost count of the amount of mocking that I've faced. The annoying and hypocritical responses get really wearing, so it gets hard to maintain cordiality towards those saying them. Not that I'm defending the person who wrote that letter, it's an idiotic way of dealing with a situation, particularly since she's not asking for any compromise but for total changes in that person's diet. But you've got to consider that it gets hard living with someone who daily eats something that you find repulsive, simply a little recognition of that fact wouldn't go unnoticed in most situations.

[QUOTE=amute;31086746]You eat more vegetation in place of it, tofu included. Agriculture uses excessive amounts of pesticides. Now, it's pretty easy to comprehend. From where?[/QUOTE] oh lol, because we'd eat more vegetation because we eat less meat? you know that a majority of cows eat corn, soy, or some other grain as the main thing in their diet, right? A cow eats 2.5 times as much as it will give back in meat [IMG]http://puu.sh/3jaN[/IMG] there are plenty of good arguments, but at least put some thought into it next time Do you know what agriculture is? [editline]13th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=CapnScarlet2;31092531]I get the feeling no-one here appreciates how repulsive meat can be to a vegan/vegetarian who doesn't eat meat for ethical reasons. Yeah, I share most of your sentiments about not shoving my feelings down people's throats, as do most of us, as such I don't comment on anybody else's eating habits, even if they're tucking into a huge steak. I still find it completely disgusting, but I won't tell them anything like that or even make any implications towards it - that'd be pretty damn rude, assuming they're not deliberately trying to get on my nerves. The same is true for most vegans I find, so please consider that. In any case, the hypocriticism here is pretty maddening, I don't think I've seen a single thread on facepunch about vegetarianism or veganism in which someone hasn't said: "You shouldn't force your way of life down our throats!" before posting a giant picture of meat and taking it incredibly personally. It's pretty much the same in real life, I've lost count of the amount of mocking that I've faced. The annoying and hypocritical responses get really wearing, so it gets hard to maintain cordiality towards those saying them. Not that I'm defending the person who wrote that letter, it's an idiotic way of dealing with a situation, particularly since she's not asking for any compromise but for total changes in that person's diet. But you've got to consider that it gets hard living with someone who daily eats something that you find repulsive, simply a little recognition of that fact wouldn't go unnoticed in most situations.[/QUOTE] get over it, I'm in it 100% for ethical reasons (any other reason is stupid most of the time because there are plenty of ways to eat healthy vegan/vegetarian or not) being repulsed by it simply because it's happening right in front of you is idiotic, you were (probably) one of those absolutely crazy inhumane meat eaters too, once. but yes, the meat pictures are juvenile - you're on a forum for a video game and it should be expected

The worst vegan is an stupid vegan. Soon these idiots are going to start force feeding tigers tofu.

Write a something similar to what she did. But make it about "not eating vegetables".

What a terrible roommate.

[QUOTE=P1X3L N1NJA;31094058]The worst vegan is an stupid vegan. Soon these idiots are going to start force feeding tigers tofu.[/QUOTE] Oh god. [img]http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h256/sausagemit/vlcsnap-664401.png[/img]

I love how she includes honey... It's not made from an animal, it's made by an animal and it does not harm or destroy a life in its creation or harvesting... I mean come on... It's fucking Honey... V :v: V

[QUOTE=SNNS-SEAN;31094623]Oh god. [img]http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h256/sausagemit/vlcsnap-664401.png[/img][/QUOTE] Aw man, it's so healthy! You can tell because thin=healthy!