[QUOTE=Shadaez;31093496]
get over it, I'm in it 100% for ethical reasons (any other reason is stupid most of the time because there are plenty of ways to eat healthy vegan/vegetarian or not) being repulsed by it simply because it's happening right in front of you is idiotic, you were (probably) one of those absolutely crazy inhumane meat eaters too, once.
but yes, the meat pictures are juvenile - you're on a forum for a video game and it should be expected[/QUOTE]
I used to eat chicken, but not since I was 10 and actually had views on the world. I agree that only being bothered when it's happening in front of you, and ignoring the bigger problems in the world is a bit short sighted and stupid, but at the same time I'm hardly going to walk around permanently grimacing. I think I'm allowed to be bothered at the visual reminder of something I hate.
And I do expect it, but I still hope for better.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCxFn3sAw68[/url] make something like this and I bet she'll move out.
When she was talking about tolerance, did she REALLY compare being a meat-eater to abusing a child?
If I were him I would stick a double down in her mouth while she slept :v:
[QUOTE=latin_geek;31085217]iron, only found in meat.[/QUOTE]
lol what
you're an idiot
My girlfriend is vegetarian. I respect that stuff and all, but I agree it's not healthy, no more healthy than being a responsible meat eater. She had soup with beef broth in it and was throwing up the next morning all morning.
Slightly annoying, but it never interferes with us so I don't really care.
[QUOTE=CdeMonkey;31088724]Also, I'm curious, what's facepunch's stance on pesketarions?[/QUOTE]
pesketarionism is something I can deal with. I don't eat a lot of meat but I couldn't go without seafood too long
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[QUOTE=Shadaez;31093496]A cow eats 2.5 times as much as it will give back in meat
[IMG]http://puu.sh/3jaN[/IMG][/QUOTE]
there's one problem though, there's no protein in wheat
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;31098867]pesketarionism is something I can deal with. I don't eat a lot of meat but I couldn't go without seafood too long
[editline]13th July 2011[/editline]
there's one problem though, there's no protein in wheat[/QUOTE]
uh, there's plenty of protein in wheat
ever heard of gluten?
[editline]13th July 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Funcoot;31098730]My girlfriend is vegetarian. I respect that stuff and all, but I agree it's not healthy, no more healthy than being a responsible meat eater. She had soup with beef broth in it and was throwing up the next morning all morning.
Slightly annoying, but it never interferes with us so I don't really care.[/QUOTE]
that's totally psychological, you absolutely won't get sick from eating an animal product after being a vegetarian
I once ate bacon ranch when I was vegetarian, I was like 'oops' and got over it, because there's no reason for crying over.. spilled milk, and another time I went to red robin with a group of people while I was vegan and ordered a vegan sandwich; it had mayonnaise on it but I just dealt with it and ate it because I don't want to be a bother. I wasn't dying from food poisoning the next day.
[editline]13th July 2011[/editline]
I'm also pretty sure I had some fish sauce at some thai place, too
[QUOTE=Fariun;31094638]I love how she includes honey... It's not made from an animal, it's made by an animal and it does not harm or destroy a life in its creation or harvesting... I mean come on... It's fucking Honey... V :v: V[/QUOTE]
Stealing the bees honey is immoral brah, they work hard for that shit under the whips of their slave drivers. We must liberate our bee brethren.
[QUOTE=DX_V;31099896]Stealing the bees honey is immoral brah, they work hard for that shit under the whips of their slave drivers. We must liberate our bee brethren.[/QUOTE]
Stolen honey is delicious.
I love to just smear it all over my nipples at the thought of bees crying over me stealing their precious honey. Mmmmmm.
you should do an epic meal time episode in your house, preferably the 5 birds in a turkey in a pig with lots of bacon, make me proud son
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;31098867]there's one problem though, there's no protein in wheat[/QUOTE]
Yeah there is, it's called gluten.
However you are correct in that there isn't very much, in comparison to beef.
[QUOTE=Nevermind.;31094494]What a terrible roommate.[/QUOTE]
No, what a terrible person.
[QUOTE=Shadaez;31099776]
that's totally psychological, you absolutely won't get sick from eating an animal product after being a vegetarian
I once ate bacon ranch when I was vegetarian, I was like 'oops' and got over it, because there's no reason for crying over.. spilled milk, and another time I went to red robin with a group of people while I was vegan and ordered a vegan sandwich; it had mayonnaise on it but I just dealt with it and ate it because I don't want to be a bother. I wasn't dying from food poisoning the next day.
I'm also pretty sure I had some fish sauce at some thai place, too[/QUOTE]
It's possible to become lactose intolerant (well, partially) through not consuming it for a long time, as it happens :p
[QUOTE=CapnScarlet2;31092531]posting a giant picture of meat[/QUOTE]
ok
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/NCI_bacon.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Lazyboy0337;31103263]ok
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/NCI_bacon.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
It that suppose to be bacon? It doesn't look very healthy.
I don't eat fish. I haven't in years, and it's not because I don't like it either. I just dislike eating the poor things. I will eat all other meats, apart from offal. I don't force this on any one, I do dislike when people openly eat it in front of me but I know that it's their decision so they an eat it.
One time my ex boyfriend bought a whole tin of muscles and ate them with his fingers and tried to kiss me straight afterwards. Nearly vomited and he didn't care. I found it rude and inconsiderate of him to do so.
[QUOTE=Hana-San;31103393]I just dislike eating the poor things. I will eat all other meats, apart from offal. I don't force this on any one, I do dislike when people openly eat it in front of me but I know that it's their decision so they an eat it.[/QUOTE]
You realize the fish die long before you even consider purchasing it to eat, right?
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31103798]You realize the fish die long before you even consider purchasing it to eat, right?[/QUOTE]
I know. But a lot of fishing is bad for the environment.
Plus this same thinking goes with meat.
No demand no supply I suppose. If you stop eating fish they don't kill so many to get for people to eat.
[QUOTE=Hana-San;31104695]I know. But a lot of fishing is bad for the environment.
Plus this same thinking goes with meat.
No demand no supply I suppose. If you stop eating fish they don't kill so many to get for people to eat.[/QUOTE]
Too much planting and harvesting of crops completely removes the nutrients of the farmland used. Too much of anything will eventually be bad.
However, as discussed earlier, animals eat more crops than they produce meat.
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[QUOTE=Hana-San;31103393]I don't eat fish. I haven't in years, and it's not because I don't like it either. I just dislike eating the poor things. I will eat all other meats, apart from offal. I don't force this on any one, I do dislike when people openly eat it in front of me but I know that it's their decision so they an eat it.
One time my ex boyfriend bought a whole tin of muscles and ate them with his fingers and tried to kiss me straight afterwards. Nearly vomited and he didn't care. I found it rude and inconsiderate of him to do so.[/QUOTE]
This is an odd point of view. Usually people are the opposite - not eating meat but eating fish.
[i]it's okaaay to eat fish... cause they... don't have aaany feeelings...[/i]
HA! I hate people that act like this. They need to keep it to themselves.
[QUOTE=Shadaez;31093496]oh lol, because we'd eat more vegetation because we eat less meat?[/quote]
I guess you all just starve to death then.
[quote]you know that a majority of cows eat corn, soy, or some other grain as the main thing in their diet, right?
A cow eats 2.5 times as much as it will give back in meat
[IMG]http://puu.sh/3jaN[/IMG]
there are plenty of good arguments, but at least put some thought into it next time[/quote]
This is basic corporatism. Corn and soy aren't natural diets of cows. So if you switched back to a normal diet, the consumption of cows will be lower.
And you're comparing meat production to vegetation consumption, it's too very different things.
Do your research next time.
And to produce corn is very, very ecologically safe, it's a very easy crop to grow and cultivate
I like how you're pretending you dislike the girl in the OP, yet you're pretty much the arrogant vegan type.
[QUOTE=Hana-San;31104695]I know. But a lot of fishing is bad for the environment.
[/QUOTE]
That's not exactly true.
Tuna fishing, yeah, but other types of fishing are fine.
[editline]14th July 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;31104816]However, as discussed earlier, animals eat more crops than they produce meat.
[/QUOTE]
They also eat basic vegetation diets the earth produces naturally and on its own. It's money, they give them cultivated and cheaper crops. You remove that influence, how much they eat is next to nothing, no matter the ratio.
[QUOTE=amute;31106830]
That's not exactly true.
Tuna fishing, yeah, but other types of fishing are fine.[/QUOTE]
Anything that takes an animal out of the environment at an unusually fast pace (anything industrialized by humans) is bad for the environment.
Sounds like my mother barking at me over and over
[QUOTE=amute;31106830]I guess you all just starve to death then.
This is basic corporatism. Corn and soy aren't natural diets of cows. So if you switched back to a normal diet, the consumption of cows will be lower.
And you're comparing meat production to vegetation consumption, it's too very different things.
Do your research next time.
And to produce corn is very, very ecologically safe, it's a very easy crop to grow and cultivate
I like how you're pretending you dislike the girl in the OP, yet you're pretty much the arrogant vegan type.
That's not exactly true.
Tuna fishing, yeah, but other types of fishing are fine.
[editline]14th July 2011[/editline]
They also eat basic vegetation diets the earth produces naturally and on its own. It's money, they give them cultivated and cheaper crops. You remove that influence, how much they eat is next to nothing, no matter the ratio.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand what you're trying to get at, the point still stands that you would absolutely not be using more pesticides if less people were eating meat. You'd be feeding less cattle, so there would be more corn / whatever available so you'd have extra, so you'd probably end up growing less and using less pesticides.
I never said anything bad about corn, and trying to attack me doesn't make your argument any better.
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cow eats 2.5 pounds of food and makes 1 pound of food
a part of that is food we can't really eat though, like grass, but it's still above 2 pounds of food we can eat for 1 pound of meat we can eat
[QUOTE=Shadaez;31106969]I don't understand what you're trying to get at, the point still stands that you would absolutely not be using more pesticides if less people were eating meat.[/quote]
Okay, so vegetarians just starve to death? They don't eat vegetables.
[quote]You'd be feeding less cattle, so there would be more corn / whatever available so you'd have extra, so you'd probably end up growing less and using less pesticides.[/quote]
I have no idea how you got to this logic.
[quote]I never said anything bad about corn, and trying to attack me doesn't make your argument any better.[/quote]
Then you don't understand that corn isn't their natural diet and throws off meat production.
[quote]cow eats 2.5 pounds of food and makes 1 pound of food
a part of that is food we can't really eat though, like grass, but it's still above 2 pounds of food we can eat for 1 pound of meat we can eat[/QUOTE]
What exactly is your point?
[QUOTE=amute;31107074]
I have no idea how you got to this logic.[/QUOTE]
He's saying that if crops weren't cultivated specifically for animal consumption (because people aren't eating animals or eating less) there would be less crops overall (since as he said, 2.5 lbs of crops = 1 lb of meat), which would reduce the total amount of pesticide use, which would lower the amount of residual pesticides in groundwater and such and generally result in healthier plants and animals and likely us as well
People eat roughly 4 pounds of food a day, a vegetarian/vegan will eat 4 pounds of some type of plant based food,
on average people eat slightly more than 1/2 a pound of meat per day, which would be 1.25 pounds of food/vegetation had it not been 'converted' to meat, so you're pretty much eating 4.75 pounds of potential food daily.
[QUOTE=Shadaez;31106969]
cow eats 2.5 pounds of food and makes 1 pound of food
a part of that is food we can't really eat though, like grass, but it's still above 2 pounds of food we can eat for 1 pound of meat we can eat[/QUOTE]
Are you honestly telling us to steal food from cows? [img]http://www.adiumxtras.com/images/pictures/something_awful_2_6634_2842_image_3468.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=Zeke129;31107103]He's saying that if crops weren't cultivated specifically for animal consumption (because people aren't eating animals or eating less) there would be less crops overall (since as he said, 2.5 lbs of crops = 1 lb of meat), which would reduce the total amount of pesticide use, which would lower the amount of residual pesticides in groundwater and such and generally result in healthier plants and animals and likely us as well[/QUOTE]
it's not like arguing about this will change anything anyway
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