See, this is why people hate vegans. - General

[QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;31059983]thisispain, do you happen to be a vegan?[/QUOTE] no [QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;31059983]Also, Zeke and thisispain, you wouldn't be defending this hate if it was directed against religion would you?[/QUOTE] i have defended hatred against religion before i dislike creepy misanthropy in general

u defending homos u must be a fuckan fag!

I can understand vegetarianism perfectly fine, but I just find vegans to be stupid.

[QUOTE=Ond kaja;31059936]Vegans don't eat at McDonald's every weekend.[/QUOTE] So you are saying every single non-vegan eats at McDonalds every weekend? [QUOTE=Ond kaja;31059936]Now meat is being mass-produced even though it's very bad for the environment even though we can live without eating meat. The reason vegans exist isn't BECAUSE it's easy being a vegan, but because the easyness of being a vegan has given them oppurtunity to live without eating mass-produces meat.[/QUOTE] You can't properly live without meat. If you went off and ate no meat you would fade away. Also the environment doesn't matter. We could be running everything off fusion power and eating lentils, but the termites and volcanoes would still be pumping out loads of shit. The reason its so easy to be a vegan is because with the benefits of modern industrialisation, the price of goods has come right down, with technologies such as railways and refrigeration.

[QUOTE=thisispain;31060029] i dislike creepy misanthropy in general[/QUOTE] but them vegans is being misanthropists to us, cause want us to not eat meat and shit

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31060051]You can't properly live without meat. If you went off and ate no meat you would fade away.[/QUOTE] i don't eat meat and i'm pretty healthy but what do doctor's know right?

[QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;31059983] Also, Zeke and thisispain, you wouldn't be defending this hate if it was directed against religion would you?[/QUOTE] a year or two ago I probably wouldn't have but now I absolutely would I grew up, maybe in a year or two the people in this thread will as well...

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31060051] The reason its so easy to be a vegan is because with the benefits of modern industrialisation, the price of goods has come right down, with technologies such as railways and refrigeration.[/QUOTE] What? That applies to meat, and everything else under the sun, too.

[QUOTE=Contag;31060083]What? That applies to meat, and everything else under the sun, too.[/QUOTE] Yes, but now people can afford to import all their shitty lentils and tofu. [QUOTE=Zeke129;31060066]a year or two ago I probably wouldn't have but now I absolutely would I grew up, maybe in a year or two the people in this thread will as well...[/QUOTE] How can somebody on the internet grow up? Even if you win the argument nothing happens. The person doesn't donate to a charity of your choice or goes off on a crusader to fix wrongs. Even if you win an argument you still make yourself look like an idiot to some people. I meanwhile seek to maintain that impression until the summer ends because I am fucking bored.

[QUOTE=J!NX;31059916]Good, next time I see you being abused, I'll turn a blind eye. its only fair.[/QUOTE] I have had my fair share of abuse. I had some crappy parents, to be honest. In a way they're cool, but I had a bad start. i've been hit, whacked with a belt, purposely locked out of my house in the scolding florida heat. One time I got locked in my basement and was forced to clean or i'd get hit/slapped with a belt. this went on for a week, then school got invovled because i wasn't allowed to go to school. I know what it's like, and I have had to even go to neighbors (friends) houses to have the call the cops when I was really young. People didn't turn a blind eye and not help me, I had to get the help myself. I don't get into other people's business, because its simply not my business to get into. If they come to me for help, sure I'll help, but I don't go snooping in other peoples lives.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31060051]You can't properly live without meat. If you went off and ate no meat you would fade away. Also the environment doesn't matter. We could be running everything off fusion power and eating lentils, but the termites and volcanoes would still be pumping out loads of shit.[/quote] What do you mean by "fade away"? "Meat" isn't a nutrient that your body needs. Your body needs the protein that comes from meat and you can be healthier if you used a vitamin, because you'd also be cutting out unnecessary fats. [quote]The reason its so easy to be a vegan is because with the benefits of modern industrialisation, the price of goods has come right down, with technologies such as railways and refrigeration.[/QUOTE] And? I've got my moral beliefs, but if I were on an island with another person and no source of food, I'm not sure if I could refrain from killing them to survive. [QUOTE=Sobotnik;31060102]Yes, but now people can afford to import all their shitty lentils and tofu.[/QUOTE] Yeah, we should also not use electronics because before the industrial revolution we didn't have them but now with scientific advancement we can use them. People got along fine without them before and we can too! Shut up you hypocrite.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31060102]Yes, but now people can afford to import all their shitty lentils and tofu.[/QUOTE] why would you import lentils and tofu they aren't particularly difficult to grow or make

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31060051]So you are saying every single non-vegan eats at McDonalds every weekend?[/quote]Not at all, I'm just implying that your statement about meat-eaters diet is taken out of the air. [quote] You can't properly live without meat. If you went off and ate no meat you would fade away. Also the environment doesn't matter. We could be running everything off fusion power and eating lentils, but the termites and volcanoes would still be pumping out loads of shit.[/quote]You can live without eating meat. Protein and other nutrients acquired from eating meat can be found in peas, lentil and beans. [quote]The reason its so easy to be a vegan is because with the benefits of modern industrialisation, the price of goods has come right down, with technologies such as railways and refrigeration.[/QUOTE] I don't deny that.

[QUOTE=super_yurtle;31060129] I don't get into other people's business, because its simply not my business to get into. If they come to me for help, sure I'll help, but I don't go snooping in other peoples lives.[/QUOTE] so basically you're just lazy

[QUOTE=super_yurtle;31059863]If the neighbor next door was abusing their child, I would turn a blind eye. Unless the child came to my house asking for help or something, then I'd obviously help. Otherwise it isn't my situation to get into.[/QUOTE] What the fuck [editline]11th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=super_yurtle;31060129]I don't get into other people's business, because its simply not my business to get into. If they come to me for help, sure I'll help, but I don't go snooping in other peoples lives.[/QUOTE] It's all well and good that you don't go around scrutinizing your neighbors to make sure they're not child abusers 24/7 but if you witness it by accident it becomes your business by responsibility.

[QUOTE=Rubs10;31060133]What do you mean by "fade away"? "Meat" isn't a nutrient that your body needs. Your body needs the protein that comes from meat and you can be healthier if you used a vitamin, because you'd also be cutting out unnecessary fats. And? I've got my moral beliefs, but if I were on an island with another person and no source of food, I'm not sure if I could refrain from killing them to survive. Yeah, we should also not use electronics because before the industrial revolution we didn't have them but now with scientific advancement we can use them. People got along fine without them before and we can too! Shut up you hypocrite.[/QUOTE] Those machines are better than what was used before. Vegan shit isn't better than meat.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31060102] How can somebody on the internet grow up?[/QUOTE] Because behind the post there is an actual human being with opinions typing things

[QUOTE=Zeke129;31060255]Because behind the post there is an actual human being with opinions typing things[/QUOTE] Bullshit, you're lying. Something like that is impossible.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;31060255]Because behind the post there is an actual human being with opinions typing things[/QUOTE] I thought you were all chatbots.

Back when i was working as cook in the military, we had a vegan, he didn't complete the training because of malnutrition. He got tired too quickly during exercises and such according to the officers. Worst part was that he resented us cooks for cooking meat, even fish. Stupid fuck.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31060239]Those machines are better than what was used before. Vegan shit isn't better than meat.[/QUOTE] And meat isn't better than veganism. You can be equally healthy with both, because like I said, you're body can't distinguish between meat and not meat, all it cares about are the nutrients.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31060295]I thought you were all chatbots.[/QUOTE] Okay, tell me more about thought you were all chatbots.

I'm an internet solipsist. I even believe people I talk to in real life are chat bots.

Animals eat meat, we are animals, therefore we eat meat.

I forogot the point I was making now?

[QUOTE=Kurtzund;31060357]Animals eat meat, we are animals, therefore we eat meat.[/QUOTE] Not all animals eat meat. Not all people eat meat.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;31060199]What the fuck [editline]11th July 2011[/editline] It's all well and good that you don't go around scrutinizing your neighbors to make sure they're not child abusers 24/7 but if you witness it by accident it becomes your business by responsibility.[/QUOTE] I don't know, I guess it would depend on the circumstances. If the abuse is happening in public, I would think the abuser is doing something wrong. However, the chances of my being the only witness is very slim. The way I see it is that, my responsibility is to go to school and get good grades right now. Not being the 'neighborhood watchdog'.

The meat industry is trying to effectivise their lobbying, so Sobotnik is actually an early prototype of an invention that registers users on forums for the purpose of making arguments about vegetarians. He can't possibly relate to the phenomenon of "growing up"!

[QUOTE=super_yurtle;31060416]I don't know, I guess it would depend on the circumstances. If the abuse is happening in public, I would think the abuser is doing something wrong. However, the chances of my being the only witness is very slim. The way I see it is that, my responsibility is to go to school and get good grades right now. Not being the 'neighborhood watchdog'.[/QUOTE] My guess is that all you care about is what people think about you? [QUOTE=Ond kaja;31060439]The meat industry is trying to effectivise their lobbying, so Sobotnik is actually an early prototype of an invention that registers users on forums for the purpose of making arguments about vegetarians. He can't possibly relate to the phenomenon of "growing up"![/QUOTE] I wonder how Sobotnik grew up, because all I see him do is make disagreeable arguments.

[QUOTE=EskillV2;31060297]Back when i was working as cook in the military, we had a vegan, he didn't complete the training because of malnutrition. He got tired too quickly during exercises and such according to the officers. Worst part was that he resented us cooks for cooking meat, even fish. Stupid fuck.[/QUOTE] Find it disturbingly odd, though I imagine it may not be as uncommon as I think. That a Vegan of all people joins the Military (Under the assumption he is going to be/ has been taught to kill [I]people[/I])