JonTron Megathread: The Most Retarded Thread on Facepunch - General

[QUOTE=Destroyox;51742305]I think people are getting pissed at Jon because a little before this he also did an interview with Breitbart of all people. Maybe people are concerned that he's turning right? (even though that makes absolutely 0 sense and Jontron was probably just offered an interview because it's pretty obvious he's wanted to talk about this)[/QUOTE] Well breibart didn't edit his answers, so why get so pissy he did a interview with them? Just because he is willing to interview with a a certain site doesn't mean he holds their overall views. They were just willing to reach out to him.

[QUOTE=Destroyox;51742502]It was about politics not GamerGate pretty sure and it was only a month or so ago.[/QUOTE] My point was more that if moderate or left-leaning sources don't feel like he is worth interviewing (or inconvenient to their narrative) it's not necessarily a mark against him that he talked to someone at Breitbart.

Oh I thought all of this happened because of what he was saying on Twitter. I didn't realize there was a live stream.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;51741846]You'll forgive me for not being able to watch a 4 or 2 hour stream at the moment but does he actually criticize the right at all in those? That was the original claim that I found to be personally unsupported. Which is fine, like I said I have no problem with him criticizing the left. I just think it's somewhat disingenuous to say he hits the right just as hard. He pays lip service to the right and will occasionally punch down to libertarianism because it's an easy target but he very rarely attacks people or parties on right wing politics. Just the opposite, as Tudd's video shows, he will approve of behavior the right does even if it's the same thing he rips the left for doing. I mean case in point, he spends 80% of the video criticizing blanket "the left" and says some of Trump's executive orders are "contentious". He outright approves of Spicer's attitude during the first press conference because "democrats did it first". This video perfectly encapsulates why I don't watch Sargon anymore and it has nothing to do with his criticism of the left or Democrats because I mostly agree with those, it's his constant fence-sitting and defense of Trump and his administrations behavior that totally runs at odds to what he has been endorsing on his channel through his crusade against ideological purity on the left. I don't know why when you have shown no real attachment to anything resembling left-wing politics and constantly generalize them using cherrypicked examples of zealots.[/QUOTE] "Ideological purity of the left" is exactly what he's been calling for since Gamergate went off the radar, and he's downright obsessed with it. Almost everyone in his circle is. It should've been obvious to everyone the first time these guys jumped at the chance to blame the SJWs for something happening to one of them like a bunch of conspiracy theorists claiming the feds are coming to get them. These guys believe they are fighting a war, and their enemy can be absolutely anything that calls itself liberal.

Dear fucking lord. JonTron was having literally the most civil political discussion I have ever seen on Twitter with Jeff (the SpaceHampster fellow), and PBG out of fucking nowhere, not even a part of the conversation, came in to give JonTron shit again. But this time Zach came in and called out PBG real fast. I'm glad other YouTubers are calling out PBG on this stuff. Dude's turned into a massive asshole real fast.

[QUOTE=The Civ;51742821]Dear fucking lord. JonTron was having literally the most civil political discussion I have ever seen on Twitter with Jeff (the SpaceHampster fellow), and PBG out of fucking nowhere, not even a part of the conversation, came in to give JonTron shit again. But this time Zach came in and called out PBG real fast. I'm glad other YouTubers are calling out PBG on this stuff. Dude's turned into a massive asshole real fast.[/QUOTE] Incredible how people who believe in tolerance so heavily lack it themselves.

[media]https://twitter.com/TuddFudders/status/825189103830450176[/media] He has given replies to other people who posted around the same time. So I don't really expect to get a reply by now. But yeah, I think politically PBG goes off the deep end. I still recommend you watch his content though since it doesn't bring any of that into it.

I don't care who's right and who's wrong, their arguing is clogging my Twitter feed with political talk. I'm gonna have to stop following both of them until they calm down.

[media]http://www.twitter.com/PeanutButterGmr/status/825485486558846977[/media] I didn't think I could lose more respect after what he did, but how he is doubling down is making me sick.

PBG isn't even making any valid points anymore, what the fuck. The conversation preceding PBG's post there was actually one of the most civil discussions I've seen. Jeff and Jon politely exchanged opinions, Jon said that he'd have to read up more on the issue before taking a stance, and then said that after reading up, [I]he changed his mind about the situation and agreed with Jeff.[/I] It's a fucking textbook example of "Civil Discussion".

Someone kind enough to give me the jist on this whole [B]"Jontron is a Nazi"[/B] bull that's floating around? [B][I]Edit[/I]:[/B] Got this from a friend, I guess that explains enough... [T]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3OW_4IWQAETs-M.jpg:small[/T]

I never knew that there were things more immature about PBG than his humor!

I seriously have lose respect for PBG

Looks like Projared is supporting PBG, he retweeted this a couple of hours ago: [media]http://twitter.com/Azniac/status/825426703879172096[/media] He also retweeted PBG's immature joke about an 'apology' 12 hours ago. [media]http://twitter.com/PeanutButterGmr/status/825172592923271168[/media] This is getting ridiculous.

God damn, I hate people some times, especially when they see only what they want to.

[QUOTE=Fangz;51742986]Looks like Projared is supporting PBG, he retweeted this a couple of hours ago: [media]http://twitter.com/Azniac/status/825426703879172096[/media] He also retweeted PBG's immature joke about an 'apology' 12 hours ago. [media]http://twitter.com/PeanutButterGmr/status/825172592923271168[/media] This is getting ridiculous.[/QUOTE] God damn, talk about an obnoxious douche

I'll bet you a lot of money that we're gonna see another shutdown of NormalBoots really soon. Seems like all these people are either taking Jon's side, or PBG's side. Luckily, I've seen most people I really like on Jon's side of the issue.

[QUOTE=Fangz;51742986]Looks like Projared is supporting PBG, he retweeted this a couple of hours ago: [media]http://twitter.com/Azniac/status/825426703879172096[/media][/QUOTE] Not suprising considering this little tirade is what made me unfollow him. [T]http://i.imgur.com/HG6PDVr.jpg[/T] Basically all Youtuber twitters are fucking garbage, unless you're like Broteam.

PBG is such a moron it hurts. People say he's a nice guy but is he really? Can someone this far up their ass be legit nice? Or is he the nice guy kind of nice?

PBG got famous from ripping off JonTron. Straight up copied his whole style.

While I super disagree with a lot of what Jon was tweeting about, WTF is going on with PBG? His reaction is really, really weird.

[QUOTE=Zeos;51743104]While I super disagree with a lot of what Jon was tweeting about, WTF is going on with PBG? His reaction is really, really weird.[/QUOTE] He decided its impossible to respectfully disagree with another person and turned back the clock to when he was 5.

This whole thing was in the background only a few years ago, and now it is blowing up in several spheres all over the place. It's a damn culture war.

[QUOTE=Splungey;51743073]PBG got famous from ripping off JonTron. Straight up copied his whole style.[/QUOTE] Uh, what? I don't really see it; Jon's "style" is a lot more energetic than PBG's, while the latter somehow comes off as even more absurdist (albeit I will argue it feels a bit forced half the time). I don't think eliciting the latter for "copying his whole style" / plagiarism on the grounds that they were once on the same network together holds any water for your argument. At all, really.

Never really got into PBG or his style of comedy. Always seemed forced and sort of "xD random" at times.

You know what you do when you disagree with someone and you think they're opinions are dismissing someones life value or demeaning someone? Explain, debate, discuss and come to new opinions. haha who am I kidding, just call them a Nazi, despite not being an actual nazi, or a nazi sympathiser but also lets not forget that if you call someone a nazi you also can say its alright to fight, dismiss and KILL nazis so what the fuck does it matter? Might as well call them a nigger faggot jew and do the same while your at. Was it Winston Churchill who said "the next fascists will be anti-fascists"? Because that is what he'll be remember for if nothing else.

The Normal boots thing is the most childish bullshit I've seen in a while.

[QUOTE=Tudd;51742869][media]https://twitter.com/TuddFudders/status/825189103830450176[/media] He has given replies to other people who posted around the same time. So I don't really expect to get a reply by now. But yeah, I think politically PBG goes off the deep end. I still recommend you watch his content though since it doesn't bring any of that into it.[/QUOTE] Why do you post yourself so much [editline]29th January 2017[/editline] Also can we all agree to keep entertainment that has nothing to do with politics separate from the politics of the performers?

This thread sure is living up to its title today

I'm glad I don't give enough of a shit about jon and pbg to get mad at all about what they do or don't support. They're entertainers to me, not friends or people to look up to as political figures.