Without a doubt a dream sequence. Looks like it's in the police station. More than likely a dream of what Dexter thinks he had to do if he got found out. Also wouldn't show that in a trailer
They seem to just be milking Dexter. I think this season will be the season to kill the show, [sp]with his sister knowing about his murders etc. there's now way he can play it off now.[/sp]
Wow, this is actually looking up.
I don't know, the trailer makes it look really promising but the show has had two god awful seasons in a row.
Unless they've fired those writers then I can't get myself excited.
Should i skip Season 6 and just watch Season 7? I really do not want to watch something i know that will be terrible. Season 5 was really boring to watch.
I'm afraid that Season 7 will be very connected with Season 6, as far as I can see from that trailer.
I wish someone would explain the hatred to me. In the last two weeks I watched all six seasons, and maybe that's why I didn't notice it as much, but:
Season 1: Incredible
Season 2: Great
Season 3: Ugh, Jimmy Smits. Least favorite season
Season 4: Incredible
Season 5: Too many ongoing story arcs, still good
Season 6: Too many ongoing story arcs, still great
I guess I'm the minority here, though.
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Also this show has, far and away, the worst marketing I've ever seen.
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They should've kept Lumen longer than just season 5. She really had no reason to leave.
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Although the season 5 serial killer/killers/whatever was god awful and forgettable. Worse than Jimmy Smits.
If you watched them all recently the quality discrepancy should probably be more obvious
And the plot twist about Edward James Olmos being dead the whole time was really dumb. Plot twists for the sake of plot twist that add absolutely nothing to the story are just pointless.
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[QUOTE=Rusty100;37342302]If you watched them all recently the quality discrepancy should probably be more obvious[/QUOTE]
I'll be the first to admit that there are too many side plots when the show is centered around one person, but I don't see it as nearly as bad as everyone says it is. The parts surrounding Dexter, albeit not AS GOOD as the earlier seasons, are still very good.
Glad to see I wasn't the only one who disliked Jimmy Smits in S3. He came across way too much as a GTA villain than anybody who'd actually belong on the show.
About the recent seasons:
Five was mediocre. I don't hate it, but I didn't really like it all that much. The problem I had with five was that it went nowhere. By seasons end, Dexter was in the exact same place he was at the beginning. Also, the only interesting story arc, Liddy, was just swept under the rug last minute, after focusing so much time on him and having all of this build up.
Six was just bad. The first episode was alright, and the Tooth Fairy one I liked, but the rest were just terrible. Each of the crime scenes seemed like they belonged as deleted scenes from a failed Saw room, and relied way too much on gore. Colin Hanks, [sp]once revealed to be the killer, came across more as an angry child than a murderer (this being just my opinion though, and based on his over exaggerated "I'M MAD" facial expressions)[/sp]. There's also the glaring plot holes (like the University scene, as well as the pitchfork scene in the Nebraska episode), and the Nebraska episode. That one managed to have nobody be in character, while also being time wasting filler.
And, maybe I'm alone here, but Dexter is a serial killer, not Jack Bauer. At no point should there be a bomb inside the police station, nor should Dex be the hero to save the day by stopping said bomber.
Also, is it me, or do the writers have a hard time figuring out how to use Quinn? Seasons 3 & 4 he was pretty forgettable. Season 5 they tried to have him be a white Doakes. And in this last one, he had a downward spiral that went nowhere.
I honestly think the only reason the Nebraska episode happened was so they had an excuse to bring back Dexter's brother.
There was definitely potential in him being influenced to kill through someone besides his father. And the fight of him deciding what to do when he's imagining his brother telling him to just kill everyone. But that [I]was[/I] completely botched. The overall idea was cool in season 6, but gah. I'm trying to say anything I can, but it just ends with me agreeing with you.
Spot on with Jimmy Smits being a GTA villain. I can't think of a better description.
As for the bomb idea, the fatal flaw there was the killer's logic. "Lieutenant Morgan is leading on this case, so we need to kill her." How does that work? If you kill her, the entire fucking government is going to come down on you. Hell, Homeland Security was already there. And it's not like the police would just go away from that.
And it was very predictable that Dexter was going to faint right when he was going in for the kill. I think that's the only reason for writing the bomb plot how they did. Without it, how does a guy who's nowhere near as good in strength or intelligence going to successfully capture Dexter?
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Also while watching one of the first few episodes, one of the characters said something and I said to a couple of friends in a Skype conversation something like this: "Calling it now, Dexter's sister wants to fuck him."
I thought for sure I'd end up being wrong.
I feel like the entirety of that episode was to just bring back people from the seasons the fans liked most, but it felt so shallow and was terribly out of character for Dexter, and even the characters brought back. Having him stop and fuck that conveinent store clerk, stealing pistols, and firing into the air like Yosemite Sam, was not what I'd expect Rudy to influence him to do. Especially since, ya know, his entire goal in the first season was to get Dexter to kill with him, as a family (which begs the question, why the hell would Rudy even come back, he can't kill with Dex anyway).
Also, Jonah. That entire arc was way too messy. He killed his mother like how his father killed, yet was never considered to have been a suspect, given that he was living in the home (I know the police think his dad is missing, but this is how many years later? And Jonah is the only survivor, surely that's suspicious). The only thing that really changed with this arc is him knowing for sure that Dex is a killer (and that he killed his dad), and he just let him walk away.
Yeah, and that point (about the overall idea) was addressed by somebody last page (to which I agreed). It seems like the current writers have good ideas, but can't follow through when fleshing them out.
I remember being pumped for Season 5 when the first trailer had come out. And when 6's trailer came out, I was still excited. Though this time around, as interesting as the trailer for 7 appears, I won't have that same excitement given their track record.
I feel like the fatal flaw with the bomb idea was the bomb part. Dexter is never a show in which a bomb of any sort is appropriate. At that point, the murderer/serial killer he's after is more of a terrorist.
Honestly, I feel like everything from this past season was predictable. Like you said, the bomb's only point was to get Dex weak so he could get abducted for the attempted kill.
The big plot twist itself was rather obvious. The scenes of them in public, with Gellar's face on the news, and nobody noticing made it rather obvious to me. Same goes for the scene in that diner/restaurant and the waitress ignores Gellar outright, never even looking or acknowledging him. I jokingly guessed it during the first episode at that last scene, what with how he just sat their talking, not really interacting with anything (not unlike Dex's Ghost Dad), and was disappointed to see I was right.
The last scene was terribly set up. [sp]Setting up the kill room at the place the PD knew he was going to be for work is just a recipe for disaster, and careless by Dexter's standards.[/sp]
I'm excited for season 7 just to see how his sister is going to handle it.
I'm expecting her to say "Fuck" a lot.
[QUOTE=venn178;37342211]I wish someone would explain the hatred to me. In the last two weeks I watched all six seasons, and maybe that's why I didn't notice it as much, but:
Season 1: Incredible
Season 2: Great
Season 3: Ugh, Jimmy Smits. Least favorite season
Season 4: Incredible
Season 5: Too many ongoing story arcs, still good
Season 6: Too many ongoing story arcs, still great
I guess I'm the minority here, though.
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Also this show has, far and away, the worst marketing I've ever seen.
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They should've kept Lumen longer than just season 5. She really had no reason to leave.
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Although the season 5 serial killer/killers/whatever was god awful and forgettable. Worse than Jimmy Smits.[/QUOTE]
God, I hate Lumen so much. She only messed things up.
Are seasons 5 and 6 worth watching? I've seen all the complaints and I've watched up until those seasons, but I'm not sure if I should continue.
[QUOTE=ejonkou;37346757]God, I hate Lumen so much. She only messed things up.[/QUOTE]
It was idiotic how fast their relationship progressed. The only reason I can see for them rushing it was because she was only there for one season. If she stayed for multiple seasons and was just his good friend they could've expanded on it in more detail. She realizes she has feelings for him and he doesn't know etc. and starts thinking about Rita and all that shit.
I don't like the way they handled her at all. Great idea, great character, horribly handled.
[QUOTE=DudeGuyKT;37350824]Are seasons 5 and 6 worth watching? I've seen all the complaints and I've watched up until those seasons, but I'm not sure if I should continue.[/QUOTE]
Depending on how much of a critic you are. I personally enjoyed it, since I'm fairly good at watching things and ignoring the flaws, and just letting myself get caught up in the story. I can see where the flaws are and I see why they might bring them down, but I still enjoyed them. I never really put a lot of thought into what I'm watching so I can enjoy a lot of the shit I do watch.
Season 5 isn't entirely necessary to watch, though I'd recommend it anyway since it's not bad. Season 6 has a few things that will be relevant for season 7 though, so I think you should watch that or at the very least read up on it. Both are worth the time, I think, though if you want to get through them as fast as possible before season 7 starts airing, just skip 5 to watch 6 and get back to 5 later whenever you feel like it.
That's how I'd do it anyway. Might be missing something from season 5, but all I remember being relevant is Rita's kids leaving, and probably some miscellaneous office drama, and Debra's continuing string of failed romances.
Whelp here's hoping season 7 is better than 5 and 6. I wonder what is making him so ballistic if not all of those were daydream scenes. You'd think his wife and kid dying would've been enough. I'm more optimistic after the new trailer.
I'm not going to watch the next season at all. I'm kind of getting the impression these writers are running out of ideas and can't write well. I love the first 4 seasons, but 5th and 6th were just bad. In 5th we got Lumen who was even worse than Miguel and had very similar role. Now from the 7th season's trailer it seems like they are going to re-open the Bay Harbor Butcher case and do season 2 only now with bad writing. I'm also at point where I can't stand watching Michael C. Hall delivering those god-awful lines anymore.
I can't wait for Season 7. One month and one day to go. Oh, man, I'm seriously looking forward to it.
Not that I'm looking forward to it, but there is usually a sneak peek 1-2 weeks before the first episode airs for real.
[QUOTE=Forss;37452940]Not that I'm looking forward to it, but there is usually a sneak peek 1-2 weeks before the first episode airs for real.[/QUOTE]
The first two minutes of Season 7 are already on YouTube.
[QUOTE=jbthekid;37457260]The first two minutes of Season 7 are already on YouTube.[/QUOTE]
I mean the whole first episode kind of sneak peek.
I predict a really shitty ending to this season considering there seems to be more seasons coming.
[QUOTE=Forss;37542312]I predict a really shitty ending to this season considering there seems to be more seasons coming.[/QUOTE]
That's your indicator? Not the fact that it's had not only shitty endings but entire shitty seasons for 2 years running now?
[QUOTE=GodKing;37542803]That's your indicator? Not the fact that it's had not only shitty endings but entire shitty seasons for 2 years running now?[/QUOTE]
I mean especially shitty because I can't see how the season can have any short of good ending now that Deb has found out (unless it being the last season).
[QUOTE=Forss;37543277]I mean especially shitty because I can't see how the season can have any short of good ending now that Deb has found out (unless it being the last season).[/QUOTE]
Just go rewatch season 5's ending and how it basically removed any point that season had.
So season 8 is going to be the last season, apparently.
Only 4 seasons too late.
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