If your son/daughter were to get a sex change, would you think of them any differently? - General

you also don't have to display your sexuality, and why the fuck would you if it gets you nothing but shit it'd be like a loud-mouthed athiest getting butthurt he's being yelled at in a catholic school

[QUOTE=Android phone;27885513]you also don't have to display your sexuality, and why the fuck would you if it gets you nothing but shit it'd be like a loud-mouthed athiest getting butthurt he's being yelled at in a catholic school[/QUOTE] As a transsexual myself I find your posts incredibly offensive and quite disturbing.

he's right though

His other posts.

[QUOTE=Android phone;27885513]you also don't have to display your sexuality, and why the fuck would you if it gets you nothing but shit it'd be like a loud-mouthed athiest getting butthurt he's being yelled at in a catholic school[/QUOTE] It is not as much displaying your sexuality, but displaying your gender. And last time I looked, everyone is displaying ones gender, for example by wearing dresses as a woman, and wearing suits as a man. Being transgendered is not about offending others. It is about ones own identity. Wouldn't you like to be accepted the way you simply are? Transgendered people feel they are born in the wrong body. Would you like to have to wear, say, a suit that's a few sizes too small for you? Itching here and pressing there? Or would you go to a tailor and let the suit be changed to fit your needs?

gender is learned, sex is biological.

[QUOTE=Darkon Ta Dra;27886018]It is not as much displaying your sexuality, but displaying your gender. And last time I looked, everyone is displaying ones gender, for example by wearing dresses as a woman, and wearing suits as a man. Being transgendered is not about offending others. It is about ones own identity. Wouldn't you like to be accepted the way you simply are? Transgendered people feel they are born in the wrong body. Would you like to have to wear, say, a suit that's a few sizes too small for you? Itching here and pressing there? Or would you go to a tailor and let the suit be changed to fit your needs?[/QUOTE] That is an excellent analogy, I must say

[QUOTE=Darkon Ta Dra;27886018]It is not as much displaying your sexuality, but displaying your gender. And last time I looked, everyone is displaying ones gender, for example by wearing dresses as a woman, and wearing suits as a man. Being transgendered is not about offending others. It is about ones own identity. Wouldn't you like to be accepted the way you simply are? Transgendered people feel they are born in the wrong body. Would you like to have to wear, say, a suit that's a few sizes too small for you? Itching here and pressing there? Or would you go to a tailor and let the suit be changed to fit your needs?[/QUOTE] When I look into the mirror I don't see myself. I see some ugly dude who's body I'm wearing like a rag.

Wow a lot of the replies here are pretty scary. I hope many of you never have children.

just because someone would dislike it if their children decide to be transgendered does not mean they would be bad parents. Your father(s) probably would not approve of it either. you should ask them Me, i couldn't care less.

[QUOTE=Arc Nova;27886235]gender is learned, sex is biological.[/QUOTE] Sorry,of course you are right. I used gender as in man/woman in contrary to sexuality as in promiscuitiy, slutty clothes and the like.

[QUOTE=Arc Nova;27886638]just because someone would dislike it if their children decide to be transgendered does not mean they would be bad parents. Your father(s) probably would not approve of it either. you should ask them Me, i couldn't care less.[/QUOTE] I was more so talking about the people that would beat their kid or disown them after having found out. I know my father would be disappointed, but he sure as hell won't beat me and cease talking to me. That's kind of what good parents do, support their kids no matter what.

[QUOTE=Darkon Ta Dra;27886820]Sorry,of course you are right. I used gender as in man/woman in contrary to sexuality as in promiscuitiy, slutty clothes and the like.[/QUOTE] what the fuck are you talking about Gender - how individuals are taught to act at a young age. example; boys are allowed to get dirty and messy but girls have to stay clean because they are girls. Hell even at birth, boys are given blue blankets and girls receive yellow. too many examples to list. Sex - Male/Female

[QUOTE=Craptasket;27861997]Beat some sense into them[/QUOTE] beat off some sense into him

I'm sitting here thinking it would be strange as all hell but hey it's there right... But in reality I know I'd get pissed and disown them for a few days while crying into a pillow. "WHAT THE FUCK WERE YOU THINKING? WHAT THE HELL. CRAZY PEOPLE DO THAT. I DIDN'T RAISE YOU TO BE CRAZY DID I. OH GOD I RAISED YOU TO BE CRAZY." It's easy to say "I'd be fine with it" but it's one of those things that if it actually happens and out of left field it's going to make you go nuts

Aha! This is why I always win at the "If your child did x..." questions! To have kids, I must first get laid. And we all know that's never going to happen. No karmic retribution for me, thanks.

Disowned in under 10 seconds.

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;27881887]no I meant zeke using ad hominem[/QUOTE] There is nothing wrong with snark at appropriate times

After I do all that hard work and they go change it, god. Finding a girlfriends hard enough for us on facepunch and they finally having sex and the kid goes and plays gender bender, I think not!

I'd think of the child as someone who is either too much of a fucking pussy as he/she is and wants to change OR as a... no wait i can't think of anything else. probably just tell them they're fine the way they are but whatever

If I had a daughter that became a man I would still make him/her make me a sandwhich.

[QUOTE=Heroms;27886462]Wow a lot of the replies here are pretty scary. I hope many of you never have children.[/QUOTE] they most likely won't or if they do they'll be too fat and lazy to actually throw their kid out of the house or anything just saying

[QUOTE=Arc Nova;27886959]what the fuck are you talking about Gender - how individuals are taught to act at a young age. example; boys are allowed to get dirty and messy but girls have to stay clean because they are girls. Hell even at birth, boys are given blue blankets and girls receive yellow. too many examples to list. Sex - Male/Female[/QUOTE] I was talking about exactly that. Fucking. Not about sex, but about sexuality. Because I answered to someone elses post, who said something about throwing your sexuality into everyones faces. Being transgender is not about sexuality, at least not about throwing it into anyones face. That's an entirely different matter. Being transgender is about ones own feeling of being a man in a womans body, or vice versa. And that is why I used the term gender in this manner, and sexuality in opposition to that. And yes, there are still many gender specific roles in our oh so modern world. I don't even mean the old cliches of the man repairing the car and the woman staying in the kitchen and cleaning the house. But there are many other gender specific roles still accepted as true in our society. And for most of us, these roles feel natural to fill. For transgenders, it doesn't. But it goes much deeper than that. It literally goes under the skin. Like I tried to explain in the analogy of the non fitting suit, transgender is not only about roles, but about the whole being itself. I agree, some people think they are transgendered because they are not happy with their bodies. Or with their roles in their life, but aren't really transgendered. That happens. But there are also people, where all these factors come together. These people are really transgendered. Would you as a man like to be forced into a dress your whole life? Would you like if your manliness is questioned? Now imagine a man who was born in a womans body. She is pressed into that role that just feels wrong. She has to deal with a body that just feels wrong. And if she says she's a man inside, she will probably be laughed at people who don't understand her. And if this woman then tries to change her life in a way that she can be truly happy, by wearing what feels right, trousers, shirts. By behaving like a man. By taking hormones and by surgery. Would this really be that hard to understand? Just to be the person you really are. To appear outside as you feel inside all your life.

I don't really think sex changes are the answer. I'd probably try and convince my child to see a psychiatrist or someone, and only use a sex change as a last resort if there's nothing else that can be done to help them.

[QUOTE=J!NX;27861152]Yeah, thats kinda abnormal as hell.[/QUOTE] Exactly my point

[QUOTE=Sift;27887616]It's easy to say "I'd be fine with it" but it's one of those things that if it actually happens and out of left field it's going to make you go nuts[/QUOTE] it wouldn't be out of the left field. you'd know for years beforehand that your kid was transgendered, if not from them directly telling you then just from observing them. as I understand it, the actual operation is more of a formality

I would feel.. failed, as a parent or something

[QUOTE=Cheesesack;27896058]I don't really think sex changes are the answer. I'd probably try and convince my child to see a psychiatrist or someone, and only use a sex change as a last resort if there's nothing else that can be done to help them.[/QUOTE] I agree with you. Before the procedure of actual sex change, there should be a physical checkup and counselling by a psychologist. Just to make sure there are no other causes misinterpreted as transgender. But if the person really is transgendered, this will be diagnosed as well. And then a sex change is usually what that person needs.

I would have to ask why he/she is getting a sex change, if it's a shitty reason then I wouldn't really have any respect for them [QUOTE=ThreeMegabytes;27861363]Better question: Would you treat your son any differently if he was a furry?[/QUOTE] I would be worried if they had zoophillia and put on costumes every day even though it's not Halloween

[QUOTE=Darkon Ta Dra;27886018]It is not as much displaying your sexuality, but displaying your gender. And last time I looked, everyone is displaying ones gender, for example by wearing dresses as a woman, and wearing suits as a man. Being transgendered is not about offending others. It is about ones own identity. Wouldn't you like to be accepted the way you simply are? Transgendered people feel they are born in the wrong body. Would you like to have to wear, say, a suit that's a few sizes too small for you? Itching here and pressing there? Or would you go to a tailor and let the suit be changed to fit your needs?[/QUOTE] you aren't born in a poorly-fitted suit and there's a difference between going from your proper anatomy to a science experiment and getting clothes that fit you better