Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D airs Tuesdays on ABC at 8pm Eastern / 7pm Central - General

Incase you didn't see the stream that was posted in the Marvel thread, items from Agents of Shield, including Lola, will be added in Disney Infinity. Picture of the power disc: [img]http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b196/Starmenclock/Lola-L-550x550_zpsa40db4b2.png[/img]

when coulson said [sp]if i come out, will you shoot me? because then i won't come out[/sp] it reminded me so much of his character before the avengers death

I wonder if the finale [sp]will lead to SHIELD reforming to combat HYDRA and other organizational threats, or if that will happen during AoU[/sp]. I don't want to wait that long for a season 2, [sp]especially since the clip at the end of the latest episode sounds like a hook they can do to tie into GoTG[/sp].

[QUOTE=Fangz;44689909]I wonder if the finale [sp]will lead to SHIELD reforming to combat HYDRA and other organizational threats, or if that will happen during AoU[/sp]. I don't want to wait that long for a season 2, [sp]especially since the clip at the end of the latest episode sounds like a hook they can do to tie into GoTG[/sp].[/QUOTE] [sp]I think SHIELD will take this opportunity to reform and go independent and secret. I think the internal organization will also vastly change for the better as well.[/sp]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/0Ce63w9.jpg[/IMG] [editline]2nd May 2014[/editline] [URL="http://herocomplex.latimes.com/tv/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-video-see-ward-garrett-in-ragtag-old-days/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=57774#/0"]Opening of next episode[/URL] [URL="https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=687177834680401"]Another clip[/URL] [URL="http://screencrush.com/marvel-agents-of-shield-ragtag-preview-photos-deathlok/"]Promo pics[/URL]

So, i'm watching the Avengers again, and i noticed that during the Stark tower scene, Pepper talks with coulson about the cellist. I'll probably notice some more little things along the way.

[QUOTE=ZnT00;44709644]So, i'm watching the Avengers again, and i noticed that during the Stark tower scene, Pepper talks with coulson about the cellist. I'll probably notice some more little things along the way.[/QUOTE] they talk about the cellist one more time in the movie i think

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;44716281]they talk about the cellist one more time in the movie i think[/QUOTE] stark is talking about how he'll like give coulson a day off or something so that coulson can spend time with her when he first enters the bridge

he also mentions her [sp]after he gets killed[/sp]

[sp]NO, NOT FITZSIMMONS, NO FUCKING WAY.[/sp]

I thought that [sp]Garrett was going to explode then and there and kill everyone[/sp]

[sp]I almost got teary eyed when Ward killed the Labrador. Ward is a stone cold bastard[/sp]

[QUOTE=SpotEnemyBoat;44742798][sp]I almost got teary eyed when Ward killed the Labrador. Ward is a stone cold bastard[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]He didn't[/sp]

[sp]You sure? Maybe it was Garret with the sniper rifle shooting the dog.[/sp]

[QUOTE=SpotEnemyBoat;44743175][sp]You sure? Maybe it was Garret with the sniper rifle shooting the dog.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp] It was Garrett with the sniper rifle. Ward even said "every time I shoot the dog runs" That's why Ward shot in the sky so the dog would get away. Ward doesn't want to kill his friends, that is also why he let them live even if they are in the ocean, they have a beacon so they will be retrieved. Ward will always have the weakness of carrying for people, this will probably be his downfall, stopping Garrett from killing Skye probably. [/sp]

[sp]"get ready for a large file transfer"[/sp]

[sp]You see Simmons in the promo for the finale in one quick shot, so yeah at least she survives.[/sp]

[sp]they also show Fury for half a second as well.[/sp]

[sp]the problem with saying that "it was garrett that shot the doggie" is that the shot of POV scope was only used to imply ward (with the deer). it wasn't used for garrett, so ward shot to make buddy run, then used the rifle. he can't handle killing something he cares about up close[/sp]

[QUOTE=LordCrypto;44749539][sp]the problem with saying that "it was garrett that shot the doggie" is that the shot of POV scope was only used to imply ward (with the deer). it wasn't used for garrett, so ward shot to make buddy run, then used the rifle. he can't handle killing something he cares about up close[/sp][/QUOTE] Which is reinforced by the fact that [sp]Ward refused to look Fitzsimmons in the eyes when he dumped their container into the ocean.[/sp] I honestly don't see where people are getting this whole [sp]Garrett shooting the dog[/sp] thing from.

this is basic continuity the reason the first POV shot is there is so that you can tie the second to the first you don't get to say "well it wasn't xyz" because the only time that shot was used was when xyz was shooting

[sp]There might still be some leftover love for Ward. We already know Garrett's a bad dude and want him to be the one that did it, but we all know it was Ward regardless.[/sp]

[sp]Would he have had enough time to run back to the rifle, set it up and fire before the dog got too far?[/sp]

[QUOTE=Tuskin;44749781][sp]Would he have had enough time to run back to the rifle, set it up and fire before the dog got too far?[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]seeing how the alternative is garrett using the rifle, which had never been established with that shot[/sp] sorry guys he did it

[QUOTE=LordCrypto;44749806][sp]seeing how the alternative is garrett using the rifle, which had never been established with that shot[/sp] sorry guys he did it[/QUOTE] I don't think he did. [sp] The two shots were set up from buddy running from him, then he has PoV of seeing buddy from the side, probably already have running far away and being able to be following the dog from the side? I doubt he did, and I think it's pretty obvious he didn't shoot him because he didn't kill Fittsimmons, and thats why they set the story up. They were like the dog, he can't kill things he cares for, that is his weakness, as I said in an earlier post. Ward couldn't have gotten a sniper set up to the PoV of beside the dog running after he shot the sky with the pistol. [/sp]

[QUOTE=Ricenchicken;44750126]I don't think he did. [sp] The two shots were set up from buddy running from him, then he has PoV of seeing buddy from the side, probably already have running far away and being able to be following the dog from the side? I doubt he did, and I think it's pretty obvious he didn't shoot him because he didn't kill Fittsimmons, and thats why they set the story up. They were like the dog, he can't kill things he cares for, that is his weakness, as I said in an earlier post. Ward couldn't have gotten a sniper set up to the PoV of beside the dog running after he shot the sky with the pistol. [/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]he can't kill things he cares about up close. he has no clue whether fitzsimmons will live, so in his mind he can justify throwing them out the plane.[/sp] also it's basic cinematography. if you show a specific kind of pov shot and explain it, and show that show again without explaining it, it's assumed that it's the same context as previous shot

It's definitely meant to appear to the viewer like [sp]he shot the dog, after the emotional roller coaster of "Aww, he didn't shoot the dog, he won't kill Fitzsimmons... wait, what?!! He SNIPED! the dog? Fitzsimmons, noooooo!"[/sp] Except they made it vague enough that you can't actually be sure if [sp]Ward even fired a shot, or if Garret did it for him. If it doesn't get brought up again, I'd say Ward did it, but then again if it becomes a plot point again, it'll probably be obvious what happened. Garret nagging about having to clean up after Ward, etc. [/sp]

What the fuck does Garrett gain by shooting the dog?

It is a dog, it isn't going to rat them out to Fury, it isn't going to hunt them down, it's a dog. The only point of the dog was a final test for Ward, if Ward kills then he passes the test and proves his loyalty, if Ward fails the test then he can't be counted on and is eliminated. Garrett has no motivation to kill Buddy. He doesn't have to follow through anymore than a teacher is required to correct a failed exam for a student. If Ward didn't kill the dog, Garrett shoots Ward, not Buddy. We are talking about a guy who murdered an innocent paraplegic here, along with helpless prisoners, Hand, and Patton Oswalt. And let's not forget trying to kill his own brother by burning him alive. Ward probably intended for Fitz and Simmons to die out in the middle of the ocean, I doubt he knew they had a tracking beacon on them since for all intents and purposes they no longer have access to that kind of tech anymore. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Didn't use spoil tags - multiple counts" - Craptasket))[/highlight]

Considering how riled up everyone is I'm pretty sure it was left ambiguous purposefully