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Possibly, I still need to head out and get the roll developed. I suppose just like my first roll I'll just hope for the best.
they might look good, just different from you intended. if they suck, post them on tumblr and just say that they're artsy. you'll get chix.
[QUOTE=GraniteMouse;31015902]they might look good, just different from you intended. if they suck, post them on tumblr and just say that they're artsy. you'll get chix.[/QUOTE] don't forget to add a vignette and write something deep on it in helvetica 50,000 reposts
[QUOTE=GraniteMouse;31015902]they might look good, just different from you intended. if they suck, post them on tumblr and just say that they're artsy. you'll get chix.[/QUOTE] The half-black picture of my cat at the start of the roll, caused by the fact that one of the bulbs on my flash is burnt out, and say something corny like "I always feel like I'm missing my better half..." ~*artistic*~ The issue with the others is by crap I mean overexposed to the point of being almost white, that's the kind of crap I'm worried about.
[QUOTE=daijitsu;31016307]don't forget to add a vignette and write something deep on it in helvetica 50,000 reposts[/QUOTE] nah, type something on a typewriter, cut it out and stick it on
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;31016385]The half-black picture of my cat at the start of the roll, caused by the fact that one of the bulbs on my flash is burnt out, and say something corny like "I always feel like I'm missing my better half..." ~*artistic*~ The issue with the others is by crap I mean overexposed to the point of being almost white, that's the kind of crap I'm worried about.[/QUOTE] half black because a flash bulb is burnt out? Sounds more like you used flash and a shutter speed faster than your camera's sync. does it look like THIS kind of half-black? [thumb]http://www.dcresource.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53913&d=1278380414[/thumb]
[QUOTE=daijitsu;31016724]half black because a flash bulb is burnt out? Sounds more like you used flash and a shutter speed faster than your camera's sync. does it look like THIS kind of half-black? [thumb]http://www.dcresource.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53913&d=1278380414[/thumb][/QUOTE] Left-side of the photo is lit, right side is black, the flash unit has 2 bulbs beside each other and based off of what the photo looks like I'm guessing one is burnt out. [quote][img]http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/190/1/a/some_crap_by_f_tangkrazee-d3ljaay.jpg[/img][/quote] Aside from overexposing the part that is visible due to my inexperience with manual settings, an entire half of the photo is black. The flash unit has 2 bulbs, and this kind of photo tells me one is burnt.
very strange. what camera is it, and what kind of flash in particular? at least have a picture of the setup?
It's a Praktica Super TL and a Hanimex TX65 solid-state flash unit. [quote][img]http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2011/175/6/1/praktica_front_by_f_tangkrazee-d3juva4.jpg[/img][/quote] It's a bit blurry, but there's the setup. [url=http://www.praktica-users.com/cams/nova/supertlmanual.html]If it helps at all, here's the camera's full manual.[/url] Fuck, it could be because I'm using f-sync when I should be using x-sync. I'll have to try some shots on this roll with both and see the differences when I get them developed... This is turning into a bit of a pricey learning experience, though granted still cheaper than a new camera. Still, though, I think a bulb may be fucked, I don't think delay on when the flash goes off would affect the photo like that. I tend to edit posts when I think of new things to add on, which sometimes contradict older statements.
whoa, neat. Looks similar to the old mamiya I recently picked up, complete with a similar solid state soligor mk-2. My flash only has one strip bulb though. I'm still not sure how or why a flash would separate the halves of an image so neatly, but your image does look like it isn't a shutter sync issue. Not sure where you'd get bulbs for an old solid state, but I wonder if there's something you could do so that just one bulb covers the full view
[QUOTE=daijitsu;31018362]whoa, neat. Looks similar to the old mamiya I recently picked up, complete with a similar solid state soligor mk-2. My flash only has one strip bulb though. I'm still not sure how or why a flash would separate the halves of an image so neatly, but your image does look like it isn't a shutter sync issue. Not sure where you'd get bulbs for an old solid state, but I wonder if there's something you could do so that just one bulb covers the full view[/QUOTE] Doubt it, that would likely require re-positioning it, and that isn't something I could really do at home with the appropriate precision. I think I'm going to open the unit up and check the bulbs and wiring. I may need to get a new flash unit, and ebay actually doesn't have many old ones, are modern flashes "backwards compatible?" [editline]9th July 2011[/editline] Upon opening it up, aside from misplacing a small part of the unit which I shortly afterwards found, I found out it actually is one bulb in the unit, looking through the cover over it it appeared to be 2, strange. All the wiring appears to be connected, so now I really don't know what's causing it, unless the bulb is a single unit that activates in halves or something, but that doesn't make much sense. You did say that if I had the ISO setting on the camera off it affects shutter speeds a bit, right? Could this be caused by the mistiming on the shutter? Either way, now I have to figure out how to put this back together. It's got so many small pieces...
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;31018464]Doubt it, that would likely require re-positioning it, and that isn't something I could really do at home with the appropriate precision. I think I'm going to open the unit up and check the bulbs and wiring. I may need to get a new flash unit, and ebay actually doesn't have many old ones, are modern flashes "backwards compatible?"[/QUOTE] yes, so long as the camera's hotseat has a 2-point trigger I think (so it can connect the trigger circuit and fire off the flash) Obviously you have to set the flash to manual or it'll just fire off at full power or something. I'd sell ya this solid-state I have, but I don't know if the bulb is good, and the battery cover is missing so you'd have to jerry-rig a metal bit to hold the batteries down and connect the circuit. I see these things around antique shops every now and again, maybe if you just dug through those kinda places you'd have some luck sooner or later.
In terms of "setting the flash to manual" I don't think it has any settings to change stuff, it's got an on/off switch and a test button.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;31018772]In terms of "setting the flash to manual" I don't think it has any settings to change stuff, it's got an on/off switch and a test button.[/QUOTE] same with the one I have, plus an exposure reference table on the back. you'd have to change a modern flash to manual in order to limit it to the right power instead of it just blowing a 1/1 power charge every time you snap a picture, washing out your shots and blinding everyone in the room :v:
Managed to not break the flash taking it apart and putting it back together, but I now have even less of a clue what's wrong with it.
Well now that I got an hourly job instead of commission, it's going to take me 138 hours of work (before calculating in taxes) to afford my camera. Body only. At part-time.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;31018464] [editline]9th July 2011[/editline] Upon opening it up, aside from misplacing a small part of the unit which I shortly afterwards found, I found out it actually is one bulb in the unit, looking through the cover over it it appeared to be 2, strange. All the wiring appears to be connected, so now I really don't know what's causing it, unless the bulb is a single unit that activates in halves or something, but that doesn't make much sense. You did say that if I had the ISO setting on the camera off it affects shutter speeds a bit, right? Could this be caused by the mistiming on the shutter? Either way, now I have to figure out how to put this back together. It's got so many small pieces...[/QUOTE] Could anything from this editline of an earlier post of mine be the culprit, or am I misinterpreting the function of the camera's ISO setting yet again?
your shutter speed has a limit in which it can sync up with the flash. If it's too fast, it'll cause the sync issue I mentioned earlier. I notice a lightbulb on the shutterspeed dial for your camera, it's at 1/30th. I'm not sure if that's supposed to mark "use this with indoor lighting" or it could be the flash sync, which sounds kinda slow. See if you can't dig up a manual for the camera online and read up on that real quick
I actually have a physical copy of the manual and posted a link to an [url=http://www.praktica-users.com/cams/nova/supertlmanual.html]online version[/url] I found earlier. I'll check. Checking, for F-synchronization it says it allows you to use 1/30 for slow-burning bulbs, and to set it to the lightning-bolt shutter speed for X-synchronization, it said it was equivalent to 1/40, I think (for what these are, the manual has a picture of 2 plugs on the front of the camera labelled F and X, and a description of each). I had it in the F-sync and at 1/125, if I'm not mistaken.
ah, could be your issue there, eh? I'd say buy a cheap roll and run through it over a weekend, see what it looks like. It'd be cheaper to experiment like that than to go buying flashes and such
[QUOTE=FalseLogic;31018986]Well now that I got an hourly job instead of commission, it's going to take me 138 hours of work (before calculating in taxes) to afford my camera. Body only. At part-time.[/QUOTE] Look at it this way - it's less than six days of work!
[QUOTE=daijitsu;31019297]ah, could be your issue there, eh? I'd say buy a cheap roll and run through it over a weekend, see what it looks like. It'd be cheaper to experiment like that than to go buying flashes and such[/QUOTE] All I've got are cheap rolls, but development is at least $7, so I'm not sure I want to expend a whole roll on flash testing, especially since I rely on Wal-Mart to put it on disk for me, as I don't have a film scanner. [editline]9th July 2011[/editline] I spent 15 minutes cleaning out a battery compartment on the camera used for "automatic" aperture setting, because some battery exploded in it 30-or-so years ago and I had to clean all the acid shit out of the compartment. I got most of it, some of it was actually blue in colour, some of that stuff refused to come out, but the connectors look to be in good enough shape to take another battery. Either way, the "automatic" really means "assisted" because all it apparently does is change where a circle is in relation to a needle on the lens to give you an idea of what aperture to use for that film speed. Definitely not vital to the camera's function, so I can wait a bit to find a new battery for it.
I think it might not be the flash but the shutter itself. I had a problem with one of my cameras that any shutter speed above 1/125 half the shot would come out black. It's because when you go to faster shutter speeds the two curtains of the shutter move across the film plane in a slit. By the time the first curtain has got to the middle of your shot, the second curtain may have already caught up with it, effectively closing the shutter.
-fuck it~
Film being developed overnight. Oh the suspense.
more work on my trigger rig: [img]http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6014/5921765594_90c973a766.jpg[/img]
Ugh never let anyone borrow your camera for any period of time. 10 second, look what my friend did... [img]http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/264795_1670238135567_1825790066_1280626_7235250_n.jpg[/img] And he did it right in front of me, THOSE ARE MY LEGS :(
[QUOTE=Nazereth666;31031397]Ugh never let anyone borrow your camera for any period of time. 10 second, look what my friend did... [img]http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/264795_1670238135567_1825790066_1280626_7235250_n.jpg[/img] And he did it right in front of me, THOSE ARE MY LEGS :([/QUOTE] So he put a hat on it? Am I missing the [i]picture[/i]? Oh man I couldn't help it.
[QUOTE=FalseLogic;31033485]So he put a hat on it? Am I missing the [i]picture[/i]? Oh man I couldn't help it.[/QUOTE] Yeah, you can't help it. Poor thing :(
[QUOTE=Nazereth666;31033849]Yeah, you can't help it. Poor thing :([/QUOTE] But seriously, I have no idea what is going on in that picture. I even tried rotating it. Just looks like it's sitting there with a hat on.
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