Exoskeletons - General - Facepunch Forum

[QUOTE=Nerdrage;21873148]Fun to draw, hard to make. With things like Carbon nanotubes (the most insane material ever) and assorted other tech you could be well on your way to producing a Nanosuit.[/QUOTE] We can't make nanotubes longer than a few cm, right now, we're better sticking to exo skeletons with a sort of wetsuit attached with a layer of electrically activated liquid rigged up to a really fast computer, so that when the suit detects a high pressure (i.e from a bullet, knife or whatever) sends a pulse to the area effected and the liquid becomes rigid for a split second.

[QUOTE=bravehat;21876403]We can't make nanotubes longer than a few cm, right now, we're better sticking to exo skeletons with a sort of wetsuit attached with a layer of electrically activated liquid rigged up to a really fast computer, so that when the suit detects a high pressure (i.e from a bullet, knife or whatever) sends a pulse to the area effected and the liquid becomes rigid for a split second.[/QUOTE] Smart Ferrofluids are awesome. Besides, I think they proved the Carbon Nanotubes give you cancer when inhaled, like Asbestos.

[QUOTE=cqbcat;21866870]No I didn't.[/QUOTE] Iron man 2*

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21876320]But it would be easier to load a plane if you're on an Aircraft Carrier. Exoskeletons will probably be used in non-combat roles long before they have combat roles.[/QUOTE] I'd imagine they would even be used in normal law and fire departments before combat roles. Like with fire departments they could lift heavy stuff from ontop of people, and easily carry people long distances. Also firehoses would be much easier to control. In law enforcement, handling arrested criminals at police stations would be much safer. Just the sight of a police officer surrounded by a hunk of metal capable of crushing his wrists is intimidating enough to make them comply.

Within the next 10 to 20 years, I can easily see exoskeletons being used as frames for armour; allowing for higher levels of protection without sacrificing load bearing or mobility. [QUOTE=bravehat;21876403]We can't make nanotubes longer than a few cm, right now, we're better sticking to exo skeletons with a sort of wetsuit attached with a layer of electrically activated liquid rigged up to a really fast computer, so that when the suit detects a high pressure (i.e from a bullet, knife or whatever) sends a pulse to the area effected and the liquid becomes rigid for a split second.[/QUOTE] Then the now punctured wetsuit leaks out the ferrofluid all over the place, and effectively reduces the ballistic protection to nil. Yeah uh... okay. I think i'll stick with composite armour.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21876429]Smart Ferrofluids are awesome. Besides, I think they proved the Carbon Nanotubes give you cancer when inhaled, like Asbestos.[/QUOTE] I think they did, but still it's not like it'll be dry nanotubes, they'll be mixed with some epoxy to keep them in place.

[QUOTE=Loen;21876517]Then the now punctured wetsuit leaks out the ferrofluid all over the place, and effectively reduces the ballistic protection to nil. Uh.. okay.[/QUOTE] What makes you think it will puncture the outer layer? It's not like Kevlar where it "catches" the bullet, the bullet literally just smashes against the armor, deforms as the energy is distributed amongst the hard and soft ferrofluid forms, and bounces off (more like falls down, but whatever.)

[QUOTE=Loen;21876517]Then the now punctured wetsuit leaks out the ferrofluid all over the place, and effectively reduces the ballistic protection to nil. Uh.. okay.[/QUOTE] I didn't say wetsuit exactly, I meant the general idea of a sort of wetsuit, you know with two layers of fabric/clothing/textile/kevlar/whatever and a layer of ferro fluid in between them.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21876542]What makes you think it will puncture the outer layer? It's not like Kevlar where it "catches" the bullet, the bullet literally just smashes against the armor, deforms as the energy is distributed amongst the hard and soft ferrofluid forms, and bounces off (more like falls down, but whatever.)[/QUOTE] The hardness of the armour itself is irrelevant since it's surrounded in the fragile container material.

[QUOTE=Loen;21876611]The hardness of the armour itself is irrelevant since it's surrounded in the fragile container material.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't call M5 Fiber "fragile" It's stronger then kevlar, that's what the ferrofluid will be "inside." And most importantly, it yields when struck, rather then get rigid.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21876679]I wouldn't call M5 Fiber "fragile" It's stronger then kevlar, that's what the ferrofluid will be "inside." And most importantly, it yields when struck, rather then get rigid.[/QUOTE] If the material alone can stop the projectile, then the ferrofluid is pointless. If the material gets penetrated though, it'll leak out and only provide one maybe two hit protection; which is NOTHING compared to modern ceramic plates which can stop numerous rounds.

Fun Fact: This is the what the first forms of a powered exoskeleton will likely be. [IMG]http://nsc.natick.army.mil/media/fact/individual/FW.jpg[/IMG] [editline]11:12AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Loen;21876753]If the material alone can stop the projectile, then the ferrofluid is pointless. If the material gets penetrated though, it'll leak out and only provide one maybe two hit protection; which is NOTHING compared to modern ceramic plates which can stop numerous rounds.[/QUOTE] The fact that it yields when struck is extremely important, it means that the more penetrating force of the round is on the hard ferrofluid rather then the M5 fiber. Besides, there's a reason DoD is giving millions to MIT to develop the ferrofluid smart material, there's obviously a way around the "leaking" problem. Also, the problem with ceramics is that they're heavy and rigid. A ferrofluid smart material has all the rigidity and strength of the best ceramics, yet will usually be as pliant and flexible as Kevlar or even lighter clothing.

You could have a double layer, ferro fluid and a material that hardens rapidly when exposed to air, like a resin.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21876769]Fun Fact: This is the what the first forms of a powered exoskeleton will likely be. [IMG]http://nsc.natick.army.mil/media/fact/individual/FW.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] lolno The first forms of powered exoskeletons are already being finalized, and they're generally alot more bulky than that stupid cheap sci-fi movie "RIOT GEAR IS TEH FOOTOR" esque mockup [img]http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/photoessay_2656_images/0310091449_M_exoskeleton_hulc_combat.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=bravehat;21876877]You could have a double layer, ferro fluid and a [B]material that hardens rapidly when exposed to air, like a resin[/B].[/QUOTE] They are making something like that, it consists of Polyethylene glycol and nanobits of silica, you literally spray it onto Kevlar. Future Force Warrior :911:

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;21876769]Also, the problem with ceramics is that they're heavy and rigid. A ferrofluid smart material has all the rigidity and strength of the best ceramics, yet will usually be as pliant and flexible as Kevlar or even lighter clothing.[/QUOTE] You generally don't bend your torso all that much, and that's all a moot point due to load-bearing gear. would work for concealable vests and offer superior protection levels, though.

[QUOTE=kevlar jens;21873711]He's a cyborg though.[/QUOTE] He's not a cyborg. :v:

[QUOTE=realmgen;21876436]Iron man 2*[/QUOTE] Didn't watch that either.

[QUOTE=Jessesmith1;21864398]yea i want to be master chef[/QUOTE] Who doesn't? :mmmsmug:

Hm, i got some of those in my secret Nazi lab. If you want them, just let me know

:orks: Damn trolls. Fook yeah!!! :page3:

[QUOTE=Jessesmith1;21864398]yea i want to be master chef[/QUOTE] Who can honestly say they wouldn't want to be a super soldier that can do everything without breaking into a sweat? It's the same logic that makes people like Space Marines, that they're unbeatable walking tanks that can kill just about anything they feel like killing.

I prefer the idea of being the chief for the simple reason he would be the next stage of humanity's progress

Well the hardest part is powering them. But of course also mass producing them cheaply. I doubt the US/any other country, would pay that much for a single soldiers life.

[QUOTE=Zeraux;21878742]Well the hardest part is powering them. But of course also mass producing them cheaply. I doubt the US/any other country, would pay that much for a single soldiers life.[/QUOTE] Not really, petrol micro engines could do the job, and the frame, if there is a frame could be made out of carbon nano tubes or carbon fibre, and the "muscle" of the suit could be those electrically activated polymers DARPA has been developing to replace the idea of piston muscles.

:science: Gotta love those threads, so much to learn

[QUOTE=Superstormj;21864418]And I want to be a guy from Crysis.[/QUOTE] agreed

[QUOTE=markg06;21878598]Who can honestly say they wouldn't want to be [b]a super soldier that can do everything without breaking into a sweat[/b]?[/QUOTE] One word: RAMIREZ.

They are cool, but way to heavy, expensive, are almost impossible to perfect.

[QUOTE=larrylumpy;21866793][IMG]http://www.gamereplays.org/community/uploads/post-90027-1205171981.jpg[/IMG] :colbert:[/QUOTE] I wouldnt mind WH if the guys looked more like soldiers and less like tanks with humans attached. I dont know.