I think that exoskeletons would be very heavy and uncomfortable.
Fuck I remember this one video where this guy made like power armor and almost sold the contract to the military. The coolest part is that the watch you had built in to it was on the front of the pelvis.
[QUOTE=Zeraux;21878742]Well the hardest part is powering them. But of course also mass producing them cheaply. I doubt the US/any other country, would pay that much for a single soldiers life.[/QUOTE]
Well I'd imagine once the R&D part is done, the manufacturing would be as simple as making a car.
[editline]10:37PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=pawelte1;21881216]I think that exoskeletons would be very heavy and uncomfortable.[/QUOTE]
Well you aren't supposed to live in them, your supposed to work/fight in them for relatively short periods of time.
[QUOTE=bravehat;21878717]I prefer the idea of being the chief for the simple reason he would be the [B]next stage of humanity's progress[/B][/QUOTE]
lol i fokin luv haylo omfgf
[editline]10:45PM[/editline]
[quote=maximo13;21879715]one word: Ramirez.[/quote]
disarm those mines with your penis
[i]use your flares![/i]
[QUOTE=veribigbos1;21881331]Well you aren't supposed to live in them, your supposed to work/fight in them for relatively short periods of time.[/QUOTE]
The shorter the better.
[QUOTE=Tac Error;21864402]Watched a bit too much of that Ghost Recon Future Soldier trailer huh?[/QUOTE]
Because Ghost Recon invented powered armor.
[QUOTE=claythepro;21879851]They are cool, but way to heavy, expensive, are almost impossible to perfect.[/QUOTE]
I think by the end of this century, we will have perfected exoskeletons.
I mean look at cars and computers. About a century ago, they were crappy, but now we have all these fancy laptops and ford mustangs.
So the idea of Master Chief may not be that far away. Some of the technologies that exist in Halo or other science fiction may one day be real in one form or another.
[QUOTE=cqbcat;21864377]I think exoskeletons be put to use on the battlefield as soon as we find efficient ways to power them.
Exoskeletons would allow soldiers to carry heavier weapons. Imagine if all of the soldiers could be armed with LMGs instead of assault rifles. They could easily carry LMGs and plenty of ammo. The exoskeletons could also compensate for the LGMs recoil.
Exoskeletons would also mean we could armor soldiers much better. They could be coated in metal sheets or at least more kevlar then they are now.
And finally, exoskeletons would allow soldiers to carry heavier stuff like missiles when they are loading them onto jets.[/QUOTE]
Wtf, are you writing an essay or something?
Look at it, he has his 3 main points, intro, conclusion etc.
And because bigger guns=better military.
I'm not disagreeing, but I really doubt they would be very practical anywhere close to the present.
Power armor? Bah, pointless outside of defensive force in close quarters. So, they would be best used in defense of some urban area, rather than on assault. That and obviously support roles. Not really much, beyond that.
Also, LMGs are overkill weapons. And last I checked Exoskeleton does not equal faster speeds... which would be the only reason to use LMGs in an attack.
[QUOTE=gufu;21886625]Power armor? Bah, pointless outside of defensive force in close quarters. So, they would be best used in defense of some urban area, rather than on assault. That and obviously support roles. Not really much, beyond that.
Also, LMGs are overkill weapons. And last I checked Exoskeleton does not equal faster speeds... which would be the only reason to use LMGs in an attack.[/QUOTE]
Imagine this situation:
Your squad is patrolling in an urban area in some foreign country, and your squad gets ambushed from nearby buildings. Now, is this not a situation in which an armored exoskeleton would shine in? With his armor and heavier weaponry, he wouldn't need cover and could just shoot at the bad guys, easily keeping up the suppressing fire until the rest of the squad retreat to solid cover and radio for backup.
[QUOTE=veribigbos1;21886810]Imagine this situation:
Your squad is patrolling in an urban area in some foreign country, and your squad gets ambushed from nearby buildings. Now, is this not a situation in which an armored exoskeleton would shine in? With his armor and heavier weaponry, he wouldn't need cover and could just shoot at the bad guys, easily keeping up the suppressing fire until the rest of the squad retreat to solid cover and radio for backup.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. Tanks would still be needed, but think of all the small arms fire soldiers could take if they had powered armor. And by small arms, I mean assault rifles, not handguns.
LMGs may not be the most practical idea. It's just the idea that we could equip soldiers with the better (yet heavier) weaponry and they wouldn't really be weighed down.
Power armor may not increase your speed, but it would drastically enhance your endurance. A soldier would be able to effortlessly run a marathon and more, out moving sand niggers who would get tired.
Another thing to consider is the ability for soldiers to fall (or jump) from greater heights. Have super strong materials lining ever major bone in their body would greatly reduce the risk of breaking a limb.
[QUOTE=Askaris;21864727][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhj3Z9o6t0g]Already in development for the US military.[/url][/QUOTE]
Wearing that wouldn't be comfortable
[QUOTE=veribigbos1;21886810]Imagine this situation:
Your squad is patrolling in an urban area in some foreign country, and your squad gets ambushed from nearby buildings. Now, is this not a situation in which an armored exoskeleton would shine in? With his armor and heavier weaponry, he wouldn't need cover and could just shoot at the bad guys, easily keeping up the suppressing fire until the rest of the squad retreat to solid cover and radio for backup.[/QUOTE]
Single grenade shrapnel piece would easily get in. At best, it'll just fuck up circuitry. At worst, it will hit the guy, perhaps even disabling him in some way. That thing would be his grave. Even worse, if someone throws a molotov (if fighting against a non-military force).
Or oh god, PHOSPHORUS!
The thing is, he would be a giant target. Would also make RPGs (which are these days are trash against "modern" tanks) be of some value.
[QUOTE=gufu;21887108]Single grenade shrapnel piece would easily get in. At best, it'll just fuck up circuitry. At worst, it will hit the guy, perhaps even disabling him in some way. That thing would be his grave. Even worse, if someone throws a molotov (if fighting against a non-military force).
Or oh god, PHOSPHORUS!
The thing is, he would be a giant target. Would also make RPGs (which are these days are trash against "modern" tanks) be of some value.[/QUOTE]
I doubt people with exoskeletons will be [i]that[/i] slow that they can't move away from a grenade if they see one coming. I doubt shrapnel would get in too easily since the armor is made to protect against bullets so it would be pretty well sealed from the joints as well.
The electronics would probably be located in the lower back area, so unless the grenade drops behind him and he doesn't notice it, then it might be damaged, assuming its left unarmored.
As for phosporous, I'm not sure how they work (meaning I'm not sure how it spreads the burning material), so I wouldn't know.
Anywho, all of those points could be applied to a normal foot soldier too, if he was pinned down in a tight spot.
[img]http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3209/ironmanhit.jpg[/img]
iron mans one is awsome
[QUOTE=veribigbos1;21887481]I doubt people with exoskeletons will be [i]that[/i] slow that they can't move away from a grenade if they see one coming. I doubt shrapnel would get in too easily since the armor is made to protect against bullets so it would be pretty well sealed from the joints as well.
The electronics would probably be located in the lower back area, so unless the grenade drops behind him and he doesn't notice it, then it might be damaged, assuming its left unarmored.
As for phosporous, I'm not sure how they work (meaning I'm not sure how it spreads the burning material), so I wouldn't know.
Anywho, all of those points could be applied to a normal foot soldier too, if he was pinned down in a tight spot.[/QUOTE]
1) Armored suit would make them pretty damn slow. And at the end, if it is not a frag grenade, it'll be one from a grenade launcher. Neither are pleasant. There is only so much armor you can put on a very delicate machinery.
2) Grenades are grenades. They can end up, anywhere.
3) Well, sure as hell will boil the guy inside.
4) Foot soldier costs less.
[QUOTE=CobraUnit;21879895]I wouldnt mind WH if the guys looked more like soldiers and less like tanks with humans attached. I dont know.[/QUOTE]
But... that's pretty much the point of a spehhs mahreen
[QUOTE=gufu;21887108]The thing is, he would be a giant target. Would also make RPGs (which are these days are trash against "modern" tanks) be of some value.[/QUOTE]
Not true. Even the "obsolete" RPG-7 can penetrate the side armor of many modern MBTs while models like the RPG-29 were designed to used against third-generation tanks like the Abrams and Leopard 2. It's how you use them that determines their value.
We need power armor, like the Mechwarrior stuff or the power armor from Fallout.
[QUOTE=veribigbos1;21887481]I doubt people with exoskeletons will be [i]that[/i] slow that they can't move away from a grenade if they see one coming. I doubt shrapnel would get in too easily since the armor is made to protect against bullets so it would be pretty well sealed from the joints as well.
The electronics would probably be located in the lower back area, so unless the grenade drops behind him and he doesn't notice it, then it might be damaged, assuming its left unarmored.
As for phosporous, I'm not sure how they work (meaning I'm not sure how it spreads the burning material), so I wouldn't know.
Anywho, all of those points could be applied to a normal foot soldier too, if he was pinned down in a tight spot.[/QUOTE]
The point is that regardless of what type of exoskeleton design you choose you will be shooting yourself in either the left or the right foot, figuratively speaking. An exoskeleton can't both be slimmed and effective while also protective.
Either you have a lighter, slimmer design with a minimum amount of parts which yields cost efficiency and better ergonomics but leaving both the user and the sensitive circuitry unshielded - OR - You go for a heavy-duty protective version with armor plating covering most or all body parts as well as all critical exoskeleton components (you can't place armor selectively since the circuitry all over the suit needs shielding) which will allow the user to take a small shower of rounds but leaving him essentially strapped inside a tin can.
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;21888132]We need power armor, like the Mechwarrior stuff or the power armor from Fallout.[/QUOTE]
Mechwarrior? Sure, let's have a giant 10 meter tall robot walking around on the battlefield! I can't wait to see how many tank shells, autocannon rounds and missiles it'll attract just by its sheer size and height.
ITT: A bunch of overly optimistic kids who know nothing about amour and exoskeleton technologies other than OMG DRAGONSKIN AND CRYSIS!!!!!
[QUOTE=gufu;21887673]
3) Well, sure as hell will boil the guy inside.
.[/QUOTE]
Nitrogen Aerogel anyone?
Also, if the unit would have any circuits, it'd be a photonic IC printed onto a flexible polymet sheet.
don't expect any of this tech to be readily available any time soon
Why have exosuit stop at military applications? what about construction? medicine? sports? how about nanosuit secks?
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.
