• Truth about gun free zones
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[QUOTE=Billiam;18263896]I'm not just talking about physically.[/QUOTE] I think it's pretty obvious he's not just talking about physically.
[QUOTE=AY LEE;18262928]Because a gun free zone doesn't let bad guys with guns in. Also, give me some facts and opinions from your side of the 'argument.'[/QUOTE] First off, a "gun free zone" isn't truly gun free, people (i.e. law breaking criminals) can still get in with concealed weapons. Take Washington D.C. for example, since the gun ban there has been lifted, crime has dropped rapidly. Also, a bugler or mugger would feel a lot safer robbing people in "gun free zones" because he/she knows there will not be much of a resistance from the chosen victim. In a zone where guns are allowed, crime is lower because the criminal doesn't know weather or not the person that they are about to rob or mug has a gun or not, in that situation, they value their own life more than what they are trying to steal or gain from mugging someone. Please, for the love of God, do research, and what I mean by research, don't go to msnbc or any other one of those crap "news" sites, because their "facts" are biased and lean more in favor of democratic point of view. From what I am gaining from your statements is that you are not well informed.
Is he wearing a delta force cap?
[QUOTE=WallyGamer4;18265012]First off, a "gun free zone" isn't truly gun free, people (i.e. law breaking criminals) can still get in with concealed weapons. Take Washington D.C. for example, since the gun ban there has been lifted, crime has dropped rapidly. Also, a bugler or mugger would feel a lot safer robbing people in "gun free zones" because he/she knows there will not be much of a resistance from the chosen victim. In a zone where guns are allowed, crime is lower because the criminal doesn't know weather or not the person that they are about to rob or mug has a gun or not, in that situation, they value their own life more than what they are trying to steal or gain from mugging someone. Please, for the love of God, do research, and what I mean by research, don't go to msnbc or any other one of those crap "news" sites, because their "facts" are biased and lean more in favor of democratic point of view. From what I am gaining from your statements is that you are not well informed.[/QUOTE] I'm OP. I was for the video, not against... [editline]03:38PM[/editline] [QUOTE=nunu;18265610]Is he wearing a delta force cap?[/QUOTE] I believe he is.
[QUOTE=YoMother;18263484]God dammit. It's like this: if you give a man a gun, he'll use that to protect himself. If the man is irrational (which most people are when pulling out a gun) he'll act irrationally. So let's say, someone just pushed him, because the other guy doesn't like the color green. The man will now try and protect himself by any means necessary (because that's human instinct). So now the man has the gun drawn, pointing at the guy. The guy doesn't feel that's fair, because he just pushed him, so he pulls out a gun too. Except he doesn't because he just got shot by the man. Because he pulled the gun. Please don't make me explain psychology to you.[/QUOTE] There are plenty of concealed carry license holders in the United States, and as far as I know it isn't usually someone who jumped through the hoops to get one that's going to start blasting people with their legally obtained, legally concealed weapon without good reason.
His eyes are kind of :downs:
[QUOTE=AY LEE;18265852]I'm OP. I was for the video, not against... [editline]03:38PM[/editline] I believe he is.[/QUOTE] Sorry for the misdirected anger then.:frown: No hard feelings I guess?
No guns at all works better than allowing guns IMO
Gun free zones are so horribly broken that by being in place they're accusing you, the law abiding gun owner, of being more dangerous than some crazed gunman, but in reality removing the most reliable and fastest remedy to a crazed gunman, another gun. [QUOTE=Boomersocks;18267336]No guns at all works better than allowing guns IMO[/QUOTE] Same with gun bans, once you ban them the only ones left are illegal ones, and with the legal ones stripped away, gun crime skyrockets.
If we're going to have a society with guns all up in it, having gun free zones makes very little sense unless it can be enforced, which it usually can't.
YEA DUDE :rock:
[QUOTE=AugustBurnsRed;18267337]Gun free zones are so horribly broken that by being in place they're accusing you, the law abiding gun owner, of being more dangerous than some crazed gunman, but in reality removing the most reliable and fastest remedy to a crazed gunman, another gun. Same with gun bans, once you ban them the only ones left are illegal ones, and with the legal ones stripped away, gun crime skyrockets.[/QUOTE] I suppose a gun ban in the USA doesn't work cause it's filled with rednecks and paranoid people.
[QUOTE=Boomersocks;18267963]I suppose a gun ban in the USA doesn't work cause it's filled with rednecks and paranoid people.[/QUOTE] You haven't been to the US then. It's just like saying the UK is filled with people with bad teeth, drink tea out the ass, and all have cockney accents.
[QUOTE=Boomersocks;18267963]I suppose a gun ban in the USA doesn't work cause it's filled with rednecks and paranoid people.[/QUOTE] No, it doesn't work because it is a republic. don't jump to conclusions you Saukerl.
Nice cap
NutnFancy is a badass dude. Had him on my subscription list for a couple months now.
[QUOTE=Dysplasia;18269389]NutnFancy is a badass dude. Had him on my subscription list for a couple months now.[/QUOTE] He moves his lips weird when he talks. :/
Must be my Europe state of mind but just end the legalisation of guns and give security where security is needed, If someone really wants to get guns or kill people it will happen anyway. You don't need to support the usage of it. But then again I am not from America so I don't get your pride about it.
[QUOTE=YoMother;18262098]Dude is right about everything, we should all have guns and shoot everyone that shoots a gun. Talk about the domino effect.[/QUOTE] You are the biggest idiot I have seen on Facepunch all day. There should be a idiot trophy rating just for you. Yes, let's strip everyone of their weapons, because it would be primitive to use them in the first place. You giant ass, I'll assume you are an American due to Facepunch's population: How the hell do you think America came to be in the first place? Do you think we gave England blowjobs until we could have our own country?
[QUOTE=Kaelnukem;18271833]Must be my Europe state of mind but just end the legalisation of guns and give security where security is needed, If someone really wants to get guns or kill people it will happen anyway. You don't need to support the usage of it. But then again I am not from America so I don't get your pride about it.[/QUOTE] My country was pretty much based off of guns, and that's why I'm proud of my right to bear arms. Plus they are fun to shoot.
[img]http://blog.martincrownover.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/tf2_engineer_closeup.jpg[/img] How am I going to stop some mean mother-hubbard from tearing me a new structurally superfluous behind?
[QUOTE=Funnycat;18272357][img]http://filesmelt.com/downloader/tf2_engineer_closeup_1.jpg[/img] How am I going to stop some mean mother-hubbard from tearing me a new structurally superfluous behind?[/QUOTE] fixed
[QUOTE=Boomersocks;18267963]I suppose a gun ban in the USA doesn't work cause it's filled with rednecks and paranoid people.[/QUOTE] [img]http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6866/12499951831.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Boomersocks;18267963]I suppose a gun ban in the USA doesn't work cause it's filled with rednecks and paranoid people.[/QUOTE] And only rednecks and paranoid people carry guns, eh? That's like saying only nerds play computer games. Just as false.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;18263882]ok, a guy walks into mcdonalds, pulls out a handgun, and fires a magazine into a crowd and runs out. one man thinks the shooter is still there and pulls out his gun looking for the shooter. another guy thinks the guy that just pulled out the handgun is the shooter, and fires at him. domino effect. withought a uniform (IE policemen) people won't know whos the shooter or whos the person trying to gun down the shooter.[/QUOTE] The problem is in shootings police often arrive [b]after[/b] everything has been done. You can't rely on the police for emergencies in every situation, [i]especially[/i] if you live in a city with high crime or low police funding, since in some cases it can take police [b]an hour or more[/b] to get to you.
I find that going after the guns is the wrong way to go about reducing gun crime, and I live in a country with very strict gun control (You can still own a firearm though). What needs to be done is probably impossible though, you need to give people less reason to want to commit crimes against others. Good luck, America.
[QUOTE=KarlHeinrichMarx;18277242]I find that going after the guns is the wrong way to go about reducing gun crime, and I live in a country with very strict gun control (You can still own a firearm though). What needs to be done is probably impossible though, you need to give people less reason to want to commit crimes against others. Good luck, America.[/QUOTE] Also guns and gun rights are so entrenched in American Culture that it would be near impossible to ban guns on a national level, especially in rural and republican areas.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;18277257]Also guns and gun rights are so entrenched in American Culture that it would be near impossible to ban guns on a national level, especially in rural and republican areas.[/QUOTE] I think you misunderstood him. If I'm correct, he pretty much agrees with the video. Oh and prohibition has never worked. Anything is better left with restrictions than under 'control'.
Heh, Funny, in Singapore, there's never been any gun crime. And damn, its freaking safe here. This is why you get rid of every gun from any civilian.
[QUOTE=blafnigem;18277404]I think you misunderstood him. If I'm correct, he pretty much agrees with the video. Oh and prohibition has never worked. Anything is better left with restrictions than under 'control'.[/QUOTE] Well yea I kind of agree with the video, but what I was saying that we should move society to a point where we don't have to worry about other people having guns that want to kill you. But a society of robots is shit. [editline]04:35AM[/editline] Which will we choose?
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