• Truth about gun free zones
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oh yeah I got that. I was just making reference to the part yawmwen made reference to. Well I figure since the whole trademark of the U.S. is freedom, I'm pretty sure we'd be leaning that direction.
[QUOTE=blafnigem;18277404]I think you misunderstood him. If I'm correct, he pretty much agrees with the video. Oh and prohibition has never worked. Anything is better left with restrictions than under 'control'.[/QUOTE] I didn't misunderstand him, I was just adding on to what he said, with a slightly related point.
OH! Oh wow. Hmm. it appears I managed to read that conversation in a completely different context, yet it still made sense. I need to lay off weed for a bit.. Sorry for shitting on the thread :frown:
[QUOTE=blafnigem;18277563]OH! Oh wow. Hmm. it appears I managed to read that conversation in a completely different context, yet it still made sense. I need to lay off weed for a bit.. Sorry for shitting on the thread :frown:[/QUOTE] Don't worry, it happens to me quite a lot and I rarely smoke anymore.
I think empowering people with a weapon affects humans. The consequences of acting irrationally to slight provocation is very high, due to raised awareness (paranoia perhaps?). I personally do not like the idea of weapons carried by people because I feel it promotes a sense of vigilantism, but then again I live in a country without weapons, so I don't have a very firm opinion on the matter. [QUOTE=CptFuzzies;18271859]You are the biggest idiot I have seen on Facepunch all day. There should be a idiot trophy rating just for you. Yes, let's strip everyone of their weapons, because it would be primitive to use them in the first place. You giant ass, I'll assume you are an American due to Facepunch's population: How the hell do you think America came to be in the first place? Do you think we gave England blowjobs until we could have our own country?[/QUOTE] I think you should read your own statements slowly before calling someone an idiot. The right to a weapon is definently part of the American culture, but to shoot down questions over its use so idiotically and immediately because it conflicts with some emotional and patriotic sentiment is hardly a solution.
Obama fucking sucks, he tried to fucking waltz in there trying to ban guns. WE AIN'T GONNA GIVE HIM OUR GUNS WITHOUT A FIGHT!!!
[QUOTE=jesse194;18278122]Obama fucking sucks, he tried to fucking waltz in there trying to ban guns. WE AIN'T GONNA GIVE HIM OUR GUNS WITHOUT A FIGHT!!![/QUOTE] You're very ignorant. He only proposed banning automatic guns to the public. We don't need those. A skilled marksman who only uses a gun for safety(key point of this thread) would prefer a pistol so he can conceil it and legally carry it in public. For [I]safety[/I]. Guns aren't toys.
All is explained now.
[QUOTE=Gubbinz96;18280045]All is explained now.[/QUOTE] Explain??
[QUOTE=blafnigem;18278183]You're very ignorant. He only proposed banning automatic guns to the public. We don't need those. A skilled marksman who only uses a gun for safety(key point of this thread) would prefer a pistol so he can conceil it and legally carry it in public. For [I]safety[/I]. [B]Guns aren't toys.[/B][/QUOTE] Yea I hate when people make pretty valid arguments about keeping their guns and then add that they also want to keep them because they like to shoot random shit with them for fun. Makes them look like idiots.
Police are unrealiable, this isn't an insult or fact. Just my opinion. I think it's better for a person to own a gun and be able to defend themselves than have to risk their own life and others waiting for a police officer.
[QUOTE=Helldoran;18262664]A well armed public is always more safe then a disarmed one[/QUOTE] We have mostly unarmed public in Czech Republic (you have to pass kinda hard and expensive tests to get a hold of semi automatic gun. automatic guns are only possible for people in army or special police forces), and there wasn't even single rampage comparable to these posted in the video in decades, while you have dozens of it. Now tell me what's wrong about that maths. I give you that Czech Republic is much smaller, but according to your theory, there should still be a lot of mass murders going on, while we have barely any.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;18282347]We have mostly unarmed public in Czech Republic (you have to pass kinda hard and expensive tests to get a hold of semi automatic gun. automatic guns are only possible for people in army or special police forces), and there wasn't even single rampage comparable to these posted in the video in decades, while you have dozens of it. Now tell me what's wrong about that maths. I give you that Czech Republic is much smaller, but according to your theory, there should still be a lot of mass murders going on, while we have barely any.[/QUOTE] I'd say it's mostly the over all population, neighboring nations (obviously), culture and thought processes that's different.
[QUOTE=KarlHeinrichMarx;18280197]Yea I hate when people make pretty valid arguments about keeping their guns and then add that they also want to keep them because they like to shoot random shit with them for fun. Makes them look like idiots.[/QUOTE] But...I want to shoot random shit for fun. :frown: Why should that be banned if I'm not hurting anyone?
I think the problem is once there is a firefight going on I don't think the other civilians walking around would know who the good guy is. If you just heard a gunshot and a shitload of other gunshots with people shooting everywhere around the place would you know if you were firing at the man who started the crime or the other guy trying to stop him?
[QUOTE=Chunk3ym4n;18289014]I think the problem is once there is a firefight going on I don't think the other civilians walking around would know who the good guy is. If you just heard a gunshot and a shitload of other gunshots with people shooting everywhere around the place would you know if you were firing at the man who started the crime or the other guy trying to stop him?[/QUOTE] You could just side with the guy with the coolest looking gun. :unsmith:
I love how people who think gun restriction is a bad idea neglect to mention that America isn't the "Old West." Even in non gun-free zones, shootings happen; they often are stopped by the police, not Clint Eastwood (or in other words a vigilante). I'm neither for or against gun control. I do think the lengths to getting a gun should be more strict, but we were still given the right to own them.
[QUOTE=Funcoot;18289317]I love how people who think gun restriction is a bad idea neglect to mention that America isn't the "Old West." Even in non gun-free zones, shootings happen; they often are stopped by the police, not Clint Eastwood (or in other words a vigilante). I'm neither for or against gun control. I do think the lengths to getting a gun should be more strict, but we were still given the right to own them.[/QUOTE] Actually they are often not stopped at all. The shooter shoots who he wants to, and either the cops show up before the shooter leaves and arrests/kills him, or the shooter leaves.
[QUOTE=KarlHeinrichMarx;18280197]Yea I hate when people make pretty valid arguments about keeping their guns and then add that they also want to keep them because they like to shoot random shit with them for fun. Makes them look like idiots.[/QUOTE] Well, target shooting [I]is[/I] fun. If by 'random shit' you mean that you take out your AK and fire it at random logs till the grip lights on fire, then yes, people who do that are idiots. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNAohtjG14c[/media]
[QUOTE=Gaslit Man;18289631]Well, target shooting [I]is[/I] fun. If by 'random shit' you mean that you take out your AK and fire it at random logs till the grip lights on fire, then yes, people who do that are idiots. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNAohtjG14c[/media][/QUOTE] Question. Do pigeons, cats, and crows count as targets or random shit?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;18289810]Question. Do pigeons, cats, and crows count as targets or random shit?[/QUOTE] That would fall under the 'random shit' category. Unless, you know, you're pest control (pigeons), or disease control (West Nile Virus in the crows, or Rabies in cats).
[QUOTE=Gaslit Man;18289901]That would fall under the 'random shit' category. Unless, you know, you're pest control (pigeons), or disease control (West Nile Virus in the crows, or Rabies in cats).[/QUOTE] :frown: I need some sort of certification to be pest or disease control don't it?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;18289974]:frown: I need some sort of certification to be pest or disease control don't it?[/QUOTE] Yes. You do. I'm assuming that you're employed in a job that requires such certification if you're out for those purposes.
hurf durf why have a tool that kills people hurf durf leftist europeans rulez
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