[QUOTE=asteroidrules;45749255]I'm gonna put it out here because it seems like Totalbiscuit is the only other person who's even been willing to mention it: this whole set of accusations seems [B]fishy [/B]as [B]fuck[/B].[/QUOTE]
heh
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;45749255]I'm gonna put it out here because it seems like Totalbiscuit is the only other person who's even been willing to mention it: this whole set of accusations seems fishy as fuck.[/QUOTE]
It's like I said eariler: A couple of these accusations I can see the reasoning behind, but the rest are just plain stupid.
Like, oh no, Phil Fish is defending another Indie dev who happens to be female. [I]Surely[/I] that means that they fucked at one point.
[QUOTE=Manibogi;45749866]It's like I said eariler: A couple of these accusations I can see the reasoning behind, but the rest are just plain stupid.
Like, oh no, Phil Fish is defending another Indie dev who happens to be female. [I]Surely[/I] that means that they fucked at one point.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure those remarks were not serious.
So basically if you want to make a load of dosh off a video game you created, you just fuck your way there?
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;45749255]I'm gonna put it out here because it seems like Totalbiscuit is the only other person who's even been willing to mention it: this whole set of accusations seems fishy as fuck.[/QUOTE]
I disagree with the notion of her screwing guys to make her game popular, but I do believe she did cheat on her boyfriend with at least one dude due to her refusal to deny any of the evidence in the blog post.
Saying [URL="http://ohdeargodbees.tumblr.com/post/95188657119/once-again-i-will-not-negotiate-with-terrorists"]"it's none of your business"[/URL] pretty much confirms this - if you knew you were innocent you would say something, rather than leave people to speculate over the evidence against you (even if it is "negotiating with terrorists").
[QUOTE=Mister_Jack;45748471]
Also requesting Joey Quinn from Dexter photoshopped with Zoe's ugly head.[/QUOTE]
Coincidentally enough, Quinn banged his boss in Dexter as well.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;45749255]I'm gonna put it out here because it seems like Totalbiscuit is the only other person who's even been willing to mention it: this whole set of accusations seems fishy as fuck.[/QUOTE]
I would have been inclined to agree, if there hadn't been such a united effort to silence any discussion.
Phil's response in particular has me suspicious. It's not the idea of Zoe Quinn sexually harassing someone at a wedding that he finds unreasonable - it's that the man in question wasn't invited.
[QUOTE=Rufia;45750307]I would have been inclined to agree, if there hadn't been such a united effort to silence any discussion.
Phil's response in particular has me suspicious. It's not the idea of Zoe Quinn sexually harassing someone at a wedding that he finds unreasonable - it's that the man in question wasn't invited.[/QUOTE]
There's been a far more united, organized, and disturbingly devoted effort to harass and slander her for quite some time.
As for the wedding tweet, yeah the wording of that is, all puns deliberately avoided, suspicious, but it's still just another unfounded claim with zero evidence to support it, the response could just be bad wording on Phil's part, he doesn't exactly have a reputation for eloquent speaking.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;45750382]There's been a far more united, organized, and disturbingly devoted effort to harass and slander her for quite some time.[/QUOTE]
after someone releases their own private details in an attempt to pretend to be hacked by "/V/" (what the fuck is "/V/"?) in order to blame /v/ and play the victim, i'm not inclined to believe she was harassed as bad as this before.
Wow... I didn't think journalism in the gaming industry was THAT bad... but wow.
Disgusting.
Now I'm glad I didn't get the Rock Paper Shotgun position they were advertising before.
[QUOTE=Funktastic Dog;45741912]It legit seems like facepunch is the only place to talk about this.
Even fucking 4CHAN is getting censored. Hooooly shit.[/QUOTE] Come on mods, now's your chance to tap dat ass!
[QUOTE=isnipeu;45754819]Come on mods, now's your chance to tap dat ass![/QUOTE]
Excuse me but when did this
[img_thumb]http://gamesthatrocked.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/zoe-quinn.jpg[/img_thumb]
Become hotter than this?
[img]http://i.gyazo.com/11a0cf6079235747a95594bc727c7290.png[/img]
The only source for her having slept with these people is her [B]ex[/B] boyfriend.
It's an interesting story but I'm not convinced.
[QUOTE=MoonlessNight;45756514]The only source for her having slept with these people is her [B]ex[/B] boyfriend.
It's an interesting story but I'm not convinced.[/QUOTE]Actually, as I recall, there were a couple of other people, like the girlfriend of one of the guys she cheated with, who have come out about it. And there is evidence of her admitting it in messages to him, which has been backed up by videos of them.
All the removing and deleting of posts and info and dox or anything related to this and they forget the Streisand effect? The more shit they remove and stir up the worse they are making it for themselves and anyone related really. This thing is gonna turn into the biggest shitstorm in years soon.
[QUOTE=DrugUnit;45756741]All the removing and deleting of posts and info and dox or anything related to this and they forget the Streisand effect? The more shit they remove and stir up the worse they are making it for themselves and anyone related really. This thing is gonna turn into the biggest shitstorm in years soon.[/QUOTE]
I've seen a few stories similar to this that I thought might stir up a big controversy, but the fact that everything went nuclear and censored from the start really struck a nerve in people. Then you have so many people fracture down the usual partisan lines, everyone riles things up even more and then complains that everyone's too riled up and blowing it out of proportion. Even worse is the fact that all these other scandals involving her from the past year are coming up and seem more and more fucked up.
I don't know if it's just horrible damage control or people struck gold and found someone really manipulative, but this is big, and it is certainly not in anyone's control
i had no idea the rabbit hole went this deep, holy fucking shit.
that said i've always known games journalism was rotten to the core, and i've never taken anything from any game journalism sites seriously.
TotalBiscuit and GiantBomb are really the closest we can get to unbiased, TotalBiscuit moreso. He says what's on his mind, damn who he pisses off.
I've always had a mind to decide for myself and take game scores and reviews with a grain of salt.
[QUOTE=joshuadim;45751227]Wow... I didn't think journalism in the gaming industry was THAT bad... but wow.
Disgusting.
Now I'm glad I didn't get the Rock Paper Shotgun position they were advertising before.[/QUOTE]
If you got that position, you probably would have gotten a freebie.
For fucks sake the very first line just blasted through my speakers
"SEKSH FO FAYVUURS"
goddamnit hope nobody heard that
With so many more gaming websites than usual being targeted as unreliable than usual, what game websites are left that we can trust or at least not shoot our fucking brains out when we visit?
[img_thumb]http://puu.sh/b2HhA/6560705b95.jpg[/img_thumb]
REKT
Backstory: Adam Sessler tweeted he was in a bar with Zoe, claiming to be watching "all the hacks" live. I guess you could say that the sess is soon to be the 6th guy.
[QUOTE=Jojje;45756911]i had no idea the rabbit hole went this deep, holy fucking shit.
that said i've always known games journalism was rotten to the core, and i've never taken anything from any game journalism sites seriously.
TotalBiscuit and GiantBomb are really the closest we can get to unbiased, TotalBiscuit moreso. He says what's on his mind, damn who he pisses off.
I've always had a mind to decide for myself and take game scores and reviews with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]
I love Giant Bomb but Patrick Klepek keeps them from being anywhere near unbiased.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/QlYa0nd.png[/t]
[editline]21st August 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Tsyolin;45758462]With so many more gaming websites than usual being targeted as unreliable than usual, what game websites are left that we can trust or at least not shoot our fucking brains out when we visit?[/QUOTE]
I think it's really just forbes.
It would be great to see a good, well written, well researched article in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, or even Rollingstone about the shenanigans in videogame "journalism."
[QUOTE=T.F.W.O.;45764717]It would be great to see a good, well written, well researched article in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, or even Rollingstone about the shenanigans in videogame "journalism."[/QUOTE]
Erik Kain from Forbes has a tweet saying hes not writing about it yet but hes keeping his eye very close on it.
I really wish those bigger companies had some more video game related shit.
But Wall Street Journal has this really good article.
[url]http://online.wsj.com/articles/gaming-no-longer-a-mans-world-1408464249?mod=trending_now_4[/url]
Look at that, great video, great read, positive to women, no hate or labeling, you get both sides, no ones hysteric or pointing fingers, no bias.
Like holy fuck why is this so hard for other game journalists, this shits actually worth reading, unlike other bullshit you see all the time.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;45764949]because im willing to bet a majority of game journalists dont have a formal education in writing and likely have very little journalism experience outside of videogames journalism[/QUOTE]It was an anonymous post so not exactly verifiable, but there was a guy who said he was part of a group working at Forbes research various video games journalism sites to possibly make them part of their RSS feed. They judged on a number of criteria, which can be found in their handbook, and judged based off of that out of a potential 100, need at least 60/100. The highest any of the sites that they investigated got was 16, with many having problems being directly connected to the people they were writing about, none having journalism degrees, and a number of serious problems.
Again, anonymous claim but it seems plausible.
[QUOTE=haloguy234;45764171]
Backstory: Adam Sessler tweeted he was in a bar with Zoe, claiming to be watching "all the hacks" live. I guess you could say that the sess is soon to be the 6th guy.[/QUOTE]
Good thing you can just keep adding one to the burgers and fries line and it will still work.
six guys
seven guys
eight guys etc
it never ends
[video=youtube;pKmy5OKg6lo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKmy5OKg6lo[/video]
Honestly, it's a two way street.
Zoe is a really scummy person to use herself to advance in a career, and the journalists/other devs are at fault for letting her get away with this. Though because of enlightening of her actions, her Patreon got another $1200 bucks and she is making more then a low class American citizen by doing nothing.
[QUOTE=tempunary;45775334]it never ends[/QUOTE]
I want to get off Zoe Quinn's wild ride
About the wizardchan debacle, I would also like to add that the burden of proof lies on Zoey, and not on the users of wizardchan. And the only "proof" she has is accusations.
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