• Crossdressing/Transgender Megathread v. Socks are both a running gag and mandatory
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[QUOTE=Sparkwire;39228151]its not being a cunt to not want to have sex with someone they arent attracted to[/QUOTE] But if you can't see it, it's just a word. I'm sure most transwomen and men look at it like that and wouldn't tell if it was some one time thing. If it was a relationship then they would might say so, but I don't really know on that.
also fucking god damnit fox news [IMG]http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/481350_596021970423864_780533122_n.jpg[/IMG] [editline]15th January 2013[/editline] my automerge :C
[QUOTE=Luafox;39228125]"no offense but your gross!!" Tell them if you know they can handle it and if they cant handle it then find someone else who isnt a cunt (yourself included, no offense)[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Skelmech;39228192]its less of an "im am not physically attracted to you because you're not hot to me" and more "I can't get over something in your past that doesn't change what you are now and im afraid it makes me gay" its just a really shitty feeling to hear "oh i totally support transgender people!! but i'd never date you ew gross...." makes you feel like you're going to be alone forever. [editline]15th January 2013[/editline] regardless. to answer your question i personally wouldn't say anything until i know i can trust them to not tell everyone else and potentially ruin my life[/QUOTE] I'm in a relationship and been in multiple rallies for the LGBT recently. I never said I find transexuals disgusting, I just don't see myself doing it with a transexual and if I learned I did it with a trans afterwards, I'd probably be shocked and feel duped. Being supportive of a cause doesn't mean I have to embrace it, supporting gay marriage and gay rights doesn't make me gay does it? @Blaberry => I'm talking about flirting, a one night stand, not a love based relationship. [editline]15th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;39228239]I don't see why someone being born in the wrong body would scare you that much. We're not trying to trick guys and girls out there. That's far beyond the point. Transsexuals are not traps. We don't get kicks out of deceiving people. For example purposes, a transgirl wants to just live her life just like any other cis (body & gender identity match) girl out there. We'd like people, like yourself, see past the fact that we're trans and give us a chance just like any other girl.[/QUOTE] This is more like the kind of answer I've been expecting, thank you.
[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;39228275]I'm in a relationship and been in multiple rallies for the LGBT recently. I never said I find transexuals disgusting, I just don't see myself doing it with a transexual and if I learned I did it with a trans afterwards, I'd probably be shocked and feel duped. Being supportive of a cause doesn't mean I have to embrace it, supporting gay marriage and gay rights doesn't make me gay does it? @Blaberry => I'm talking about flirting, a one night stand, not a love based relationship.[/QUOTE] that gay anaolgy doesnt work at all and you know it. and again its pretty shitty to go "oh im supportive ive been to so many rallies! but i couldn't fuck one of u........." why couldn't you. maybe if they were pre-op you have a more valid reason because thats actual preference of your partners bottom parts but still.
preop is a valid reason to not want to have sex, some people just dont like that
[QUOTE=Skelmech;39228257]also fucking god damnit fox news [IMG]http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/481350_596021970423864_780533122_n.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE] oh god im dying its so wrong but come on you gotta lighten up
[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;39228275]I'm in a relationship and been in multiple rallies for the LGBT recently. I never said I find transexuals disgusting, I just don't see myself doing it with a transexual and if I learned I did it with a trans afterwards, I'd probably be shocked and feel duped. Being supportive of a cause doesn't mean I have to embrace it, supporting gay marriage and gay rights doesn't make me gay does it? @Blaberry => I'm talking about flirting, a one night stand, not a love based relationship. [editline]15th January 2013[/editline] This is more like the kind of answer I've been expecting, thank you.[/QUOTE] You don't realize it but you're still not 100% accepting of trans people if sex with one disgusts you that much. Here's what I don't understand. You're in a relationship, right? You have a girlfriend I'm guessing. Is your brain always on the subject of sex 24/7 like it is when you think about how gross it'd be to fuck someone who is transgender? Every time you see your GF does your mind go in the gutter and the only thing you think about is how much you want to destroy her cunt? Most likely no, considering your mind isn't in the gutter. You love HER for WHO SHE IS. And if she happened to be trans would you dump her?
[QUOTE=Skelmech;39228298]that gay anaolgy doesnt work at all and you know it. and again its pretty shitty to go "oh im supportive ive been to so many rallies! but i couldn't fuck one of u........." why couldn't you. maybe if they were pre-op you have a more valid reason because thats actual preference of your partners bottom parts but still.[/QUOTE] So to support transgenderism and transgenders' rights I have to be ok with having with one? I'm not feeling comfortable about it, isn't it my right? I'm doing my best to fight for equality (no matter the cause itself), I'd expect the people I'm fighting for (even if that's like, on a very tiny level such as rallies) to at least respect my basic rights. I didn't mean to offend anyone and didn't expect a simple question which has been bothering me for a little while now to provoke so much backslash, I'm off.
[QUOTE=NeoDement;39228318]oh god im dying its so wrong but come on you gotta lighten up[/QUOTE] i posted it to be funny :P [editline]15th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Sparkwire;39228315]preop is a valid reason to not want to have sex, some people just dont like that[/QUOTE] entirely. thats kind of a big deal.
[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;39228335]You don't realize it but you're still not 100% accepting of trans people if sex with one disgusts you that much. Here's what I don't understand. You're in a relationship, right? You have a girlfriend I'm guessing. Is your brain always on the subject of sex 24/7 like it is when you think about how gross it'd be to fuck someone who is transgender? Every time you see your GF does your mind go in the gutter and the only thing you think about is how much you want to destroy her cunt? Most likely no, considering your mind isn't in the gutter. You love HER for WHO SHE IS. And if she happened to be trans would you dump her?[/QUOTE] Loving someone and having sex with someone is a completely different thing. My question wasn't about a love-relationship, it was purely about sex. I'm not stupid, I know whenever feelings kick in, a lot of things change. Truth be told, if I learned she is a trans, I don't know for sure what I'd do, but I'd feel cheated, duped.
[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;39228359]So to support transgenderism and transgenders' rights I have to be ok with having with one? I'm not feeling comfortable about it, isn't it my right? I'm doing my best to fight for equality (no matter the cause itself), I'd expect the people I'm fighting for (even if that's like, on a very tiny level such as rallies) to at least respect my basic rights. I didn't mean to offend anyone and didn't expect a simple question which has been bothering me for a little while now to provoke so much backslash, I'm off.[/QUOTE] nobody's really offended we just get tired of hearing "oh man i support you guys SO much but i'd never bone you ew oh gosh" just gets bothersome. [editline]15th January 2013[/editline] you have no reason to feel cheated or duped though :I
[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;39228376]Loving someone and having sex with someone is a completely different thing. My question wasn't about a love-relationship, it was purely about sex. I'm not stupid, I know whenever feelings kick in, a lot of things change. Truth be told, if I learned she is a trans, I don't know for sure what I'd do, but I'd feel cheated, duped.[/QUOTE] Why would you feel cheated and duped? If she was trans there's a perfectly good reason why. Because of that EXACT reaction. If she was trans she wouldn't be trying to cheat and deceive you. She just wants to live her life like any other girl without the weight of transgenderism on their shoulders.
[QUOTE=Skelmech;39228257]also fucking god damnit fox news [IMG]http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/481350_596021970423864_780533122_n.jpg[/IMG] [editline]15th January 2013[/editline] my automerge :C[/QUOTE] I honestly couldn't help but laugh at that. They couldn't have picked a more absurd picture for that. [QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;39228376]Truth be told, if I learned she is a trans, I don't know for sure what I'd do, but I'd feel cheated, duped.[/QUOTE] You shouldn't feel duped though. There's many reasons a transperson may not tell the person they're with about their past. The biggest and most important reason being that they wish to be treated just like a cisgendered person of their gender. In addition to that there's always the problem with people hating them for being that way and them fearing violent reprisal and ridicule.
[QUOTE=Skelmech;39228381]nobody's really offended we just get tired of hearing "oh man i support you guys SO much but i'd never bone you ew oh gosh" just gets bothersome. [editline]15th January 2013[/editline] you have no reason to feel cheated or duped though :I[/QUOTE] Not feeling comfortable about it =/= disgusted about it. This is really subjective and not about the body itself. Say I don't want to have sex with someone who loves puppies, there's no particular reason for it but I just don't want to, well that's kinda the same thing here except the reason is obvious : I don't feel comfortable doing it with a girl who was a man. I'm not really disgusted at the thought of it, I'd just rather not do it. On the cheated/duped part, it's once again pretty obvious why I'd have a reason to : as soon as you love someone, you don't hide such a big thing (once again someone might take it harshly, sorry I just find it to be kind of a big thing). If you're hiding it for fear it might ruin your life, then you're not really loving your partner and it's kind of an egotistical thing to do.
[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;39228451]Not feeling comfortable about it =/= disgusted about it. This is really subjective and not about the body itself. Say I don't want to have sex with someone who loves puppies, there's no particular reason for it but I just don't want to, well that's kinda the same thing here except the reason is obvious : I don't feel comfortable doing it with a girl who was a man. I'm not really disgusted at the thought of it, I'd just rather not do it. On the cheated/duped part, it's once again pretty obvious why I'd have a reason to : as soon as you love someone, you don't hide such a big thing (once again someone might take it harshly, sorry I just find it to be kind of a big thing). If you're hiding it for fear it might ruin your life, then you're not really loving your partner and it's kind of an egotistical thing to do.[/QUOTE] Actually not feeling comfortable about it does mean you're disgusted about it. It's not a severe disgust but its still one none the less.
[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;39228407]Why would you feel cheated and duped? If she was trans there's a perfectly good reason why. Because of that EXACT reaction. If she was trans she wouldn't be trying to cheat and deceive you. She just wants to live her life like any other girl without the weight of transgenderism on their shoulders.[/QUOTE] That's nice and all, and it'll hopefully be true in a few decades, but as of now, for the vast majority of people (including those supportive of the LGBT) this weight is here and learning about your partner being a transgender can change... well, a lot of things. The same way I respect transgenders and would find it awesome to hang out with a transgender and wouldn't care much about him having a penis or a vagina, I'd like transgenders to understand it's still not "perfectly normal" in the eyes of most. That's harsh, but that's how things are. Worse thing being, I know all of that, yet can't get past what you might call a bias.
While it makes me happy that there are people supporting us, I find it rather hypocritical to hear such opinions. "Hey, I support your rights and all that, but I do personally still define you based on your past looks." And therefore cannot fully grasp the concept. And it makes me rather sad since it reminds me that such encounters will probably occur for me. And it will make me feel forced to give out such info since I fear of ending up with a person that would not be okay with me.
[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;39228500]That's nice and all, and it'll hopefully be true in a few decades, but as of now, for the vast majority of people (including those supportive of the LGBT) this weight is here and learning about your partner being a transgender can change... well, a lot of things. The same way I respect transgenders and would find it awesome to hang out with a transgender and wouldn't care much about him having a penis or a vagina, I'd like transgenders to understand it's still not "perfectly normal" in the eyes of most. That's harsh, but that's how things are. Worse thing being, I know all of that, yet can't get past what you might call a bias.[/QUOTE] why dont you just go away
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[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;39228376]Loving someone and having sex with someone is a completely different thing.[/QUOTE] It isn't for me :C [editline]16th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;39228475]Actually not feeling comfortable about it does mean you're disgusted about it. It's not a severe disgust but its still one none the less.[/QUOTE] I disagree. Disgust seems too harsh a word (Just my opinion though)
[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;39228500]That's nice and all, and it'll hopefully be true in a few decades, but as of now, for the vast majority of people (including those supportive of the LGBT) this weight is here and learning about your partner being a transgender can change... well, a lot of things.[/quote] Yeah, it can... if you're dumb. Lol. If you accept it nothing can change and you just know something more about her that she trusts you with.
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why do we have to just accept that its okay for people to not want to have sex with us based on something in our past we cant change and we cant be mad about it. you'd be called racist if you refused to have sex with black people or asian people simply because of their ethnicity. how is this any different. you know we like to get boned too. most of us anyway.
[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;39228735]Yeah, it can... if you're dumb. Lol. If you accept it nothing can change and you just know something more about her that she trusts you with.[/QUOTE] So knowing she has some sort of fetish would be the exact same thing as knowing she once was a man? Yep I'm done, never thought a group asking for tolerance would be so intolerant about everyone else. You won't make those problems disappear by just closing your eyes, they exist and until I get those kind of answers ("you got to understand us and in turn, we won't give a shit how you feel about it"), I won't be so supportive anymore. What a disappointment it was.
are you fucking serious you aren't going to be supportive because we're tired of hearing EW I WOULDNT HAVE SEX WITH YOU WERE A *gasp* MAAAAAAAAAAN fuck off then
[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;39228876]So knowing she has some sort of fetish would be the exact same thing as knowing she once was a man? Yep I'm done, never thought a group asking for tolerance would be so intolerant about everyone else. You won't make those problems disappear by just closing your eyes, they exist and until I get those kind of answers ("you got to understand us and in turn, we won't give a shit how you feel about it"), I won't be so supportive anymore. What a disappointment it was.[/QUOTE] I see the self-centered little child I knew back in the early days of the Comics Section is still in you. I mean really dude. "I'm only going to be supportive once transgender people think the way I do" is the most childish fucking thing I've ever heard.
The way you're talking kinda implies you don't understand anything about transexuals at all, they're not pretending to be a woman to try and trick you. Internally they've always been a woman and have now modified their body to match. Body of a woman, mind of a woman. Unless you want to get them pregnant what's the problem? The argument about the past is actually a bit like saying you wouldn't date a thin attractive person who was once a fat slob. They changed their body a lot too but I bet you wouldn't have a problem.
Lovely. It's a textbook example of a bad cisgender ally. "If you complain about me being a childish, self-centered prick I will stop supporting you!" [editline]Cishet-hating heterophobe[/editline] [img]http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbfjf9fWYB1qe7ab5o1_500.png[/img]
[QUOTE=NeoDement;39228970]ldn't date a thin attractive person who was once a fat slob. They changed their body a lot too but I bet you wouldn't have a problem.[/QUOTE] Or the extreme silly version, if dating someone who was "one a man" makes you gay, doesn't dating someone who was one a child make you a pedophile?
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