Squat 3x10*90kg considerably easy today. Gonna try 95 next week.
why are you still doing 10 10 10 ?
do more reps on your first set or increase the weight or you're making much less progress, you fool
[QUOTE=Seith;30365974]Regardless to fluids, if you finished cutting and immediately afterwards you start eating like your normal routine, you will gain fat. Your body is used to consuming much less nutrients per day. What do you expect?[/QUOTE]
Fuck.
Gained a few pounds, but measurements remain exactly the same.
I'm slowly rising weight, I don't need to rush. After all I'm not that familiar with squat. I'd need a spotter if I added like 20kg more weight straight away. I was doing 80kg a while ago, and hoping to reach 100 soon. And I'm not aiming for max strength and mass only anyway.
Anyway how's 10 reps so horrible you make it seem? Many finnish site I read say 8-12 reps is optimal compromise between mass and strength.
5-8 i@ 85% 1rm is p much the best usually
[QUOTE=Maucer;30392864]
Anyway how's 10 reps so horrible you make it seem? Many finnish site I read say 8-12 reps is optimal compromise between mass and strength.[/QUOTE]
yeah, but if you can keep doing sets with the same amount of reps each time, you aren't making the muscle work hard enough
for each set, you are supposed to go to EXHAUSTION, until you are struggling and can't do anymore reps. if you're doing 10-10-10, you can clearly be doing more than 10 reps on your first set
if you want good results from squats, you have to work really hard to get those last reps
also... you're doing squats without a spotter?
[QUOTE=Maucer;30392169]Squat 3x10*90kg considerably easy today. Gonna try 95 next week.[/QUOTE]
WHO ARE YOU?!?!?! MOUSE MAN??
[editline]11th June 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=polarbear.;30393796]yeah, but if you can keep doing sets with the same amount of reps each time, you aren't making the muscle work hard enough
for each set, you are supposed to go to EXHAUSTION, until you are struggling and can't do anymore reps. if you're doing 10-10-10, you can clearly be doing more than 10 reps on your first set
if you want good results from squats, you have to work really hard to get those last reps
also... you're doing squats without a spotter?[/QUOTE]
Who taught you that? No need to get overly exerted. It's sometimes counterproductive, especially if you do it every workout.
One should strive to achieve progression with each workout. If it's strength, then it's obviously more weight on the bar, progressively. If it's mass, then obviously one would want to progressively load more weight while maintaining more reps.
ive read some stuff on several bodybuilders who were lacking development in their legs, and they found out they were simply not working them hard enough, they raised the weights and worked them so hard they could barely stand up after sets (i LOVE that feeling) and they got great results
tom platz apparently worked to exhaustion all the time, and did 20 miles on the bicycle machine things right after his sets, results are scaring the fuck out of people when you pull your pants down
[img]http://www.fatmanunleashed.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/tom_platz_legsfront.jpg[/img]
lol lets look at bodybuilders for 100% solid advice now
[QUOTE=caaaasus;30400762]lol lets look at bodybuilders for 100% solid advice now[/QUOTE]
Well they got results.
[QUOTE=polarbear.;30400627]ive read some stuff on several bodybuilders who were lacking development in their legs, and they found out they were simply not working them hard enough, they raised the weights and worked them so hard they could barely stand up after sets (i LOVE that feeling) and they got great results
tom platz apparently worked to exhaustion all the time, and did 20 miles on the bicycle machine things right after his sets, results are scaring the fuck out of people when you pull your pants down
[img]http://www.fatmanunleashed.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/tom_platz_legsfront.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Let's listen to a drug-abusing individual, who supposedly said something that supposedly works. Yes.
[QUOTE=Kel|oggs;30403537]Well they got results.[/QUOTE]
They have cupboards full of anabolics, are in the gym almost every single day for hours twice a day and are more dedicated to lifting than you are to jacking off
ergo trying to emulate what a pro bb'er does is STUPID.
and how many times am i going to have to say this, a human body that is at its genetic limit and is on AAS is going to respond far differently to certain types of stimulus than regular joe with no gear
I wouldn't even want my legs to look like that..
[QUOTE=Octave;30407594]I wouldn't even want my legs to look like that..[/QUOTE]
Then I would like you to move to Fitness training. 50xpink db's.
What is better for hypertrophy on a bulk: a Push/pull or bodypart split?
[QUOTE=NotMeh;30408971]What is better for hypertrophy on a bulk: a Push/pull or bodypart split?[/QUOTE]
Compounds of any sort. Heavy weights. Strength oriented program. Accompanied by suitable assistance exercises.
Splits, Smits doesn't matter at your level. 1.5x bw is a minimum if you even want to think about splits. It just doesn't matter that much, as without strength, there is no size.
But, if I were to disregard all of these, the answer would be none of the above. Especially because it seems it's something you made up. Use DC,5/3/1,Texas Method, WSB...
It's so individual, one cannot declare a certain form works best. Due to that, you have the classic templates, which use certain elements and have been proven to work.
fuck it then I'll just trial and error it
[QUOTE=Seith;30408600]Then I would like you to move to Fitness training. 50xpink db's.[/QUOTE]
Heh, I'm not working out to bodybuild though, mainly just to get stronger, if you're a bodybuilder then obviously you would want your muscles to be as huge as possible.
[QUOTE=Octave;30410215]Heh, I'm not working out to bodybuild though, mainly just to get stronger, if you're a bodybuilder then obviously you would want your muscles to be as huge as possible.[/QUOTE]
.....
Those two things are not seperate. Also, you're contradicting yourself - how can one become stronger, when he refuses to initiate proper muscle stmuli constantly? You think using the same weights, over and over will make you stronger? Yes. For a short period of time, until your body sees no use in producing further adaptation due to lack of progressive load.
So in fact, you're doing jack-shit. Face the ugly truth, or get out.
[QUOTE=Seith;30410273].....
Those two things are not seperate. Also, you're contradicting yourself - how can one become stronger, when he refuses to initiate proper muscle stmuli constantly? You think using the same weights, over and over will make you stronger? Yes. For a short period of time, until your body sees no use in producing further adaptation due to lack of progressive load.
So in fact, you're doing jack-shit. Face the ugly truth, or get out.[/QUOTE]
Jeez man, I just said I wouldn't want my legs to look like that, Can't you accept that?
[QUOTE=Octave;30410366]Jeez man, I said I wouldn't want my legs to look like that, Can't you accept that?[/QUOTE]
Jeez man, I said if you aren't under progressive load, you would never even get close to that. Besides the fact you aren't ACTUALLY gaining jackshit. Can't YOU accept that?
[QUOTE=Seith;30410388]Jeez man, I said if you aren't under progressive load, you would never even get close to that. Besides the fact you aren't ACTUALLY gaining jackshit. Can't YOU accept that?[/QUOTE]
What are you trying to say? Are you saying I don't add weight as I go? I don't recall saying anything about that....
[QUOTE=Octave;30410432]What are you trying to say? Are you saying I don't add weight as I go? I don't recall saying anything about that....[/QUOTE]
Just the mere statement of "I don't like my legs to look like that" reflects upon the massive lack in how the human body works. So, if you don't understand simple facts as these, I wouldn't strike far by saying you don't apply the simple rules I stated above.
[QUOTE=Seith;30410517]Just the mere statement of "I don't like my legs to look like that" reflects upon the massive lack in how the human body works. So, if you don't simple facts as these, I wouldn't strike far by saying you don't apply the simple rules I stated above.[/QUOTE]
wat
[QUOTE=NotMeh;30410528]wat[/QUOTE]
What is not understood, human vessle?
[QUOTE=Seith;30410517]Just the mere statement of "I don't like my legs to look like that" reflects upon the massive lack in how the human body works. So, if you don't understand simple facts as these, I wouldn't strike far by saying you don't apply the simple rules I stated above.[/QUOTE]
hahaha. okay big fella
[editline]12th June 2011[/editline]
By the way, since I have a massive lack of knowledge at how the human body works, how's this sound for an upper body workout/is there anything I should add?
5x5 Benching
Free weights - curls, lat and front raises
Pull ups (both prone and supinated grip, same number)
Push ups (10 4 second pushups and 20 regular, as by this time my shoulders are pretty tired)
Dumbbell shoulder press and benching.
[QUOTE=Seith;30410575]What is not understood, human vessle?[/QUOTE]
Dude. You don't need to overanalyze a statement that was slightly meant to be a joke. Chill out.
[QUOTE=Octave;30410578]hahaha. okay big fella
[editline]12th June 2011[/editline]
By the way, since I have a massive lack of knowledge at how the human body works, how's this sound for an upper body workout/is there anything I should add?
5x5 Benching
Free weights - curls, lat and front raises
Pull ups (both prone and supinated grip, same number)
Push ups (10 4 second pushups and 20 regular, as by this time my shoulders are pretty tired)
Dumbbell shoulder press and benching.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like a workout I'd hand my non-existent sister.
You bearly even covered the concept of compounds in this "routine", no to speak also about the fact you neglected legs. What is this? Are you working out, or trying to?
Too tired to actually comment on something like that, due to the fact I've seen those sort of routines with every 2nd user around here. So, to shorts things up, read 'Practical Programming', understand it, inhale what's in there.
Inhale Starting Strength into your mind, understand it's concept after reading that ebook and refer to me later on with questions about what an actual routine is supposed to look like.
[editline]12th June 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=AgentBoomstick;30413336]Dude. You don't need to overanalyze a statement that was slightly meant to be a joke. Chill out.[/QUOTE]
Very funny. haha
Your asking why I neglected legs in an [b]upper[/b] body workout?
And also, pullups benching and shoulder press are all compound
[editline]12th June 2011[/editline]
is there a free internet version of that book? or do I have to buy it?
[QUOTE=Octave;30414382]Your asking why I neglected legs in an [b]upper[/b] body workout?
And also, pullups benching and shoulder press are all compound
[editline]12th June 2011[/editline]
is there a free internet version of that book? or do I have to buy it?[/QUOTE]
I won't call it free, but pm me now, I'll hook you up with it.
Also, didn't notice that fact. Doesn't matter, it's not well structured from the peek I got anyways.
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