[QUOTE=Seith;31376806]Yes, blow those 88$ on 3 bags of bread and 1.5kg of cheese / balony. How's that for serving yourself quick enough meals with more than enough protein?
[editline]28th July 2011[/editline]
Really those are questions you shouldn't ask. You need the basics. Starting Strength. Follow it for a year+. Confront the program with goals such as "300 lbs bench n 500000 deadlift is what I want from myself and out of this program". [B]Achieve best you can, move on to more advanced, isolated programs.[/B]
Again, take in mind that the time span is about a year and a half of pure dedication food and adequate sleep.[/QUOTE]
I need an answer for the bolded part. How do I know when i've achieved the best I can out of a lift? Actually, let me put it in my own terms: I've been doing all compound lifts the past month. When should I move onto more unilateral, isolated lifts?
Month = nothing.
I believe you may be ready to move on when you feel you aren't gaining enough from the compound lifts or if you're starting to look very unbalanced in body proportions or something. It's a long process before you can consider moving on.
(normal "amateur-that-knows-nothing" -warning applies)
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Shit is difficult. Everyone at the gym was looking at me, they probably thought I was bad-ass. Haha, anyway I was at the gym and a guy walked in, he said hi to me. So I continued training and I looked at him. He was fucking doing biceps curl with 1 kg. What in the fuck? Anyway started doing weights with planches. So I fill my backpack with weights and do a tuck planche :). Seems to be a good way to gain strength + muscle mass.
lol Rago finally went to the gym
mirin' 10lb curls brah
[QUOTE=NotMeh;31384758]lol Rago finally went to the gymmirin' 10lb curls brah[/QUOTE] Haha, was joking, I did 50 lbs. And there was this device for shoulder strength I could lift 216 lbs. That's nearly my weight twice. Guess my planchd training paid off.
Yeah but the devices usually have leverages. I bet you cant to 110lbs with a barbell.
[QUOTE=Devfrost;31380438]I need an answer for the bolded part. How do I know when i've achieved the best I can out of a lift? Actually, let me put it in my own terms: I've been doing all compound lifts the past month. When should I move onto more unilateral, isolated lifts?[/QUOTE]
Month is not enough to even be thinking about those questions. You feel this naturally in the process.
But, for discussion purposes, I'll tell you. Set goals. Achieve goals, move on.
You'll sense it yourself, trust me. A lot of factors.
[QUOTE=Rago;31384855]Haha, was joking, I did 50 lbs. And there was this device for shoulder strength I could lift 216 lbs. That's nearly my weight twice. Guess my planchd training paid off.[/QUOTE]
50 lbs isnt that much brah.
[QUOTE=Maucer;31385001]Yeah but the devices usually have leverages. I bet you cant to 110lbs with a barbell.[/QUOTE]
I weight 108 lbs, I hold a tuck planche for 60 seconds which is basically holding my own weight. I can hold an advanced tuck planche for 30 seconds which is my weight times 1.5 and I can hold a straddle for 4 seconds which is my weight times 2.5. Full planche is 3, can't do that though...
Ugh guys, so today I went to the gym and was psyched for my workout, had a coffee so I was feelin good, got to the squat station and within 2 minutes I went from psyched for my workout to feeling like my fucking head was about to explode. Literally the worst pain I have ever felt in my head. Walked to the locker room feeling ready to fall over and left as soon as I could. That was around half an hour ago and it still hurts like a bitch. I took three ibuprofens and am drinking water and laying down. But what the fuck is wrong with me?
Edit: and I wasn't even lifting heavy weights. I has the bar low on my rear delts so its not like it was hitting my vertebrae. I started with two warm up sets of 5x95 and 5x135 and it already started after those. Then I did 5x155 which is ten or twenty pounds lower than my work set weight and that's when the shit hit the fan. Its like my legs can handle squats but my head fucking can't :v:
Static excercise =/= regular excercise. I could probably hold a bench press barbell loaded with 2x my weight still without completely locking my arms but I wouldn't have a change doing an actual rep.
Is this what you mean by advanced tuck planche?
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BTW here's another really simple physics explanation, but what many people don't seem to realize.
Heres a common shoulder press machine. There's an axel in the right end of the machine, and a handle on the left. The weight is attached to the middle of the lever with a chain. When you push the lever up 10 centimeters, the weight only rises 5 cms. That's why the Force F needs to be only bigger than ½G to give the weight an acceleration (to rise it up).
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It's actually more complicated, because the handles path is circular, and G vector is only straight down. Basically it gets lighter the higher you push it up and the required force is highest when the lever is horizontal (½G)
Tltr; You load 50kg and it only takes ~25kg force to push it up when the weight is attached to the middle.
I don't see how you could be holding your body up but holding more than 1x your weight, do you increase gravity on certain parts of your body or something?
I think my shitty bench is actually caused by weak triceps, not chest.
Seems kind of accurate actually considering I can only skullcrush 35lb with full ROM lmao
[QUOTE=NotMeh;31388051]I think my shitty bench is actually caused by weak triceps, not chest.
Seems kind of accurate actually considering I can only skullcrush 35lb with full ROM lmao[/QUOTE]
work on that shit mang!
[QUOTE=NotMeh;31384758]lol Rago finally went to the gym
mirin' 10lb curls brah[/QUOTE]
You should be the one to talk
got extreme wrist pain when working on forearms, waited a week and it's still there. Pain doesn't come up unless i flex or lift heavy shit, sometimes annoys me and comes back when doing dumbbell flys/bicep curls
doctor time?
[QUOTE=polarbear.;31393162]got extreme wrist pain when working on forearms, waited a week and it's still there. Pain doesn't come up unless i flex or lift heavy shit, sometimes annoys me and comes back when doing dumbbell flys/bicep curls
doctor time?[/QUOTE]
yeah you probably pulled or strained a muscle or something.
use straps for stuff like heavy deadlifts if the pain doesn't go away
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[QUOTE=Annoyed Tree;31392285]You should be the one to talk[/QUOTE]
you're cool
so i recently swapped out my barbell curls for hammer curls due to some minor forearm pain from the barbell curls so far working p good
also i need some more fucking plates for my little home gym, i have maxed out on everything now
i need to go get some money and go and buy some plates for cheap somewhere, i plan on picking up some 25's and maybe a pair of 45's
also what are your guys opinions on kettlebells?
also also i have been bulking for like a really long time like a year and a half now because i liked the feeling of my lifts going up, prolly stupid to bulk that long but fuck it, so now i plan on going on a godly cut, any advice?
Finally i can do 8x3 dips :smile:
Don't you mean 3x8 dips?
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Also, just realized I've been doing my squats wrong for the past two weeks. No wonder my abductors have been getting hyuge while no progress has been made on my quads
Apparently you [I]can[/I] work out with a new tattoo so my legs have been wasting away for a week for no reason. 6am run and so many squats tomorrow~
So what do you all think about chaning SL 5x5 to 3x8? or 4x8 or 3x10?
[QUOTE=Rago;31384622]Everyone at the gym was looking at me[/QUOTE]
no one was looking at you. you're just paranoid
[QUOTE=Kel|oggs;31441418]So what do you all think about chaning SL 5x5 to 3x8? or 4x8 or 3x10?[/QUOTE]
But then you won't be doing SL 5x5. It's like, obviously you can switch out squats for leg press in Starting Strength, but then you won't be doing Starting Strength anymore.
[QUOTE=Oneperson;31450748]But then you won't be doing SL 5x5. It's like, obviously you can switch out squats for leg press in Starting Strength, but then you won't be doing Starting Strength anymore.[/QUOTE]
... I didn't change the exercises I'm just changing the reps and sets.
[QUOTE=Oneperson;31450748]But then you won't be doing SL 5x5. It's like, obviously you can switch out squats for leg press in Starting Strength, but then you won't be doing Starting Strength anymore.[/QUOTE]
Who says you can't modify a routine?
I took some exercises out of Norton's PHAT because it wasn't possible for me to do them, but I can't call the routine my own, can I?
It's a modified PHAT in that case.
[QUOTE=Kel|oggs;31452149]... I didn't change the exercises I'm just changing the reps and sets.[/QUOTE]
bc youre dumb and gay and dont follow directions
Starting Stronglifts 5x5 tomorrow, i'm pumped.
I don't think I can lift weights for a long time :(
[QUOTE=Casnus;31452304]bc youre dumb and gay and dont follow directions[/QUOTE]
lol look who's back
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