Currently on a cut at 1900 cals, so far 4 weeks in about 4 Lbs lost. Haven't noticed any strength loss yet, although I expect some through the months ahead.
I got a dodge charger as a rental car for the next 5 days.
I got all the muscle I need in my vehicle now. Bitches be flockin.
[QUOTE=G71tc4;31753352]Did the first day of SL. It was easy as hell, but knowing that it would get harder next time somehow made me more excited to keep going.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I felt a little bad. I was like, [i]"I definitely feel like I should be doing something else."[/i]
But it was still exciting!
When I came back from surgery I was looking for a new program and I narrowed it down to SL, SS, and "A simple beginner Routine" on the bb.com fourms. I chose the simple beginner routine because it looked more taxing, and results were suppppeeer fast. I popped up from the 130's to the 150's hella fast compared to pound every other week split pre surgery.
Just my experience. It helped me stay motivated because I liked the feeling being pretty much out of breath, sore, tired, and worn out after a workout. Plus every week you add more reps, so you do force yourself to progress, and seeing that helped mentally as well. And I knew if I started SL I'd feel like I wasn't accomplishing anything, and that wouldn't really keep me motivated. Plus I actually like spending hours in the gym compared to going in and out with just a few 5x5's.
Link if you're interested...
[url]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=4195843[/url]
But good luck with your SL
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;31740824]No.
Anybody who tries to tell you differently is a fucking idiot hth.
Growth plate closure occurs from a very large, temporary increase in estrogen, generally around 21-23, but it's not unheard of for dudes to keep growing to 25 for example.
Weightlifting can actually stimulate growth, especially exercises that have a heavy load and some degree of spinal loading like deadlifting and squatting for example.
[editline]15th August 2011[/editline]
Um fish oil fucking owns.[/QUOTE]
Casus said something about needing about 3g a day of some omega 3 contained in fishoil for max blood saturation, which one was he referring to?
[editline]15th August 2011[/editline]
Thinking back on my cut, what the fuck honestly, I ate below maintenance for a 2 months and lost like 2 lbs?
1700 cals with 100+ g Protein seems like it would lead to nothing but weight loss.
Apparently not! Considering seeing a doctor, possible thyroid problem?
[QUOTE=Kel|oggs;31758763]
Thinking back on my cut, what the fuck honestly, I ate below maintenance for a 2 months and lost like 2 lbs?
1700 cals with 100+ g Protein seems like it would lead to nothing but weight loss.
Apparently not! Considering seeing a doctor, possible thyroid problem?[/QUOTE]
What was your weight + height while cutting, also are there any medical problems worth mentioning?
143 lbs 5'6.
No medical conditions.
[QUOTE=Kel|oggs;31759232]143 lbs 5'6.
No medical conditions.[/QUOTE]
yeah i'd see a doctor that's odd.
Posted that info before, everyone just said "HURR your probobly not actually eating 1700 your somehow overshooting that and eating like 2300 HURR".
No, I'm eating 1700, I've been doing this for a long time, I had alot of success with 1400 from January to may, since then progress has slowed to a complete halt.
Well I was considering asking if you were consistent with 1700, but that leads nowhere.
Seriously the only advice I can offer is if you don't see progress, cut lower by 100 until you see progress ( i.e 1 lb a week). If progress stops, cut more cals, ect.
But honestly 1400 seems so damn low.
I took a few supp pills for the first time today...now it's 2:30 AM and im not even slightly sleepy. Fuck this, i'm usually asleep by 10:30.
[QUOTE=G71tc4;31759386]I took a few supp pills for the first time today...now it's 2:30 AM and im not even slightly sleepy. Fuck this, i'm usually asleep by 10:30.[/QUOTE]
I just said fuck it, and decided to stay up. Don't stress over it.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;31748070]just thought you'd be able to lift more[/QUOTE]
i'm just not confident with my form yet to do more at the moment
i've slowly getting there though. last time I didn't use the squat rack because it was taken but tomorrow i'm gonna give it another go on the squat rack and see if I can at least lift my bodyweight.
[editline]16th August 2011[/editline]
also thanks heaps for the tips Septimas, that will definitely help me for when i attempt squats next time
cross country season started and im doing it lol. would it be wise to lift after practice? we do about 2-5 miles of running a day. too taxing on the body y/n?
[QUOTE=NotMeh;31749668]eat below maintenance
whats the problem here?[/QUOTE]
I was planning on maintaining my lifting, doing some cardio.
Maybe wake up at 6am, drop an ECA stack and do some 20-mins of HIIT before eating?
lifting and paying attention to my diet for the first time in like a week today. I got depressed so I basically dropped everything.
If you've never worked out your legs why should you be able to squat your body weight? It's not like you can just make your body increase strength on command.
Havent been to gym for 4 months now, gonna get back to it next week. I put on this shamefull beer belly over the break and in general have a lot of body fat. At the minute i'm at 80-82 kg (depends when i weigh myself) Anyway, should I just cut the fat for a few months to burn that jelly belly or get straight back to bulking for muscle?
Unless the gut is huge and bothers you, you could consider bulking first.
Rate me dumb all you want.. What exactly do you do when bulking? What i get from it is: "Get fat purposely"
[QUOTE=RSN;31765028]Rate me dumb all you want.. What exactly do you do when bulking? What i get from it is: "Get fat purposely"[/QUOTE]That's not the main purpose, you eat lotsa food and a large amount of calories so you gain muscle faster, and also fat
E: But obviously you're working out a lot during it so you stimulate muscle growth, unless youre trying to get fat :v:
Okay, two questions, I would really love some answers.
1. I am 14, my brother is 17, I have bigger muscles than him all over, yet he is stronger than me by far, what gives?
2. Am I correct in saying that we rest between sets, say if I am doing 5x5, I have like 30 secs rest after every 5 reps?
rest week, boooring
So, the weight room I'm going to be using for the next 6-8 months (starting sometime in september/october) is a bit crummy. The only barbell they have is in a smith cage, so the only free weights they have are dumbbells. A lot of people told me I'm better off doing dumbbell squats and deadlifts (what the christ even). 6-8 months of nothing but dumbbells AW YEA STABILIZER MUSCLES YEA
[QUOTE=lemoncurry;31766980]Okay, two questions, I would really love some answers.
1. I am 14, my brother is 17, I have bigger muscles than him all over, yet he is stronger than me by far, what gives?
2. Am I correct in saying that we rest between sets, say if I am doing 5x5, I have like 30 secs rest after every 5 reps?[/QUOTE]
1. How tall is he? I'm short and have muscles all over, yet a kid who is a few inches taller than me, never worked out in his life, can lift more than me. Genetics could also have something to do with it.
2. I believe you wait around a minute after each set, and after 5 sets you're done the exercise. Not sure how long you're supposed to wait after your done all sets actually, I just wait another minute.
[QUOTE=Octave;31765182]That's not the main purpose, you eat lotsa food and a large amount of calories so you gain muscle faster, and also fat
E: But obviously you're working out a lot during it so you stimulate muscle growth, unless youre trying to get fat :v:[/QUOTE]
Well, what i hear now is: "You have to get fat to be able to grow any muscle at all".. If that's true.. Life sucks :P
[editline]16th August 2011[/editline]
Okay new question: Would i get any benefit from only eating calories over maintenance when on workout days? So:
Workout day - Over maintenance
Rest day - Under maintenance
I know it sounds weird :P
WTF why do you dumbasses keep ignoring posts that have already answered your questions????
A sensible bulk (i.e a caloric surplus of 500-700 cals) with suitable training will not result in any noticeable/significant amount of fat gain. If it does, you are doing something wrong or have the shittest genetics ever (trust me its the former, not the latter).
You do not have to "get fat" to gain muscle that is the dumbest thing i've ever heard. Two completely different tissues that are not interchangeable in the slighest.
Especially for a beginner, a good bulk done right will probably result in you having LESS bodyfat % at the end.
I am v.mad right now.
for some reason, I seem to be doing (unintended) negatives on nearly all of my lifts.
Eg. bicep curls, curl the bar up fast, let it down REAL slow
I've been weight training on and off for the last 6 months and I did weight training in high school so I got some minor building with that so I had a little bit of muscle built before.
I took to weight training regularly about three months ago roughly because I was playing Duke Forever and decided "Fuck it, I wanna be like that!" that and I've always looked up to guys like Stallone, Schwarzenegger, ext. ext. So I figured if I expect the average person to be fit I might as well fill my own criteria. Right now I'm 21, 6'0" and 132 lbs, still only a 17.9 BMI. I'm ideally working towards at least 20 or so.
I eat healthy and play drums and go out for walks so I stay active even when I don't work out. I have a high metabolism and don't retain any body fat. (If I didn't get fat sitting around playing WoW for 8-10 hours a day for 5 years, I don't think I ever will.)
My regular routine consists of:
8-9 hours of sleep
Large breakfast
Protein shake (300ml 2% milk + 255g RealMass 2700)
Gatorade Prime 15 minutes before work out
4 sets of 30 reps each, each working different areas
Gatorade Recover immediately after
Big ass dinner
Next day off for recovery and resuming once any sore spots are back to normal
Not sure what my regular cal count is, since I don't keep track of it strictly. But I estimate I get in at least 3106 + a range of 300-500 cal for snacking so an average of 3406-3606 calories and 152 grams of protein on an average day.
Using calculators I can find online for calorie intake says at my size/age/weight/activity level I need at least 2547 cals a day to maintain. I assume that extra 1200-1500 is going to help me fuel my building.
I don't go to a gym or have a workout partner, I have a [url=http://www.fit-senior.com/acatalog/677l.jpg]workout station[/url] and a weight set. I make sure I'm using proper form and technique by consulting people I know who have been working out for years and following instructions for forms properly.
Given the results I've seen so far, I think I'll stick to what I've been doing as I'm seeing rapid results and I'm constantly building.
[QUOTE=Cureless;31769911]
[B] 4 sets of 30 reps each[/B][/QUOTE]
:wtc:
[QUOTE=Cureless;31769911]
My regular routine consists of:
4 sets of 30 reps each, each working different areas
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[QUOTE=Rhinovirus;31770265]please tell me you're joking[/QUOTE]
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[editline]17th August 2011[/editline]
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