I worked on triceps and abs two days ago. I think it's time for me to get started on biceps and forearms.
Is it wise to have a recovery day between gym visits?
wise
Also. I am trying to slim down and lose some weight while at the same time I am trying to get 'meat' on my arms which are kind of like pipe cleaners at the moment. (people say they're normal but I still think they're fucking thin.) I run at least 4 miles every other day and two miles in between them in 80-90 degree heat.
Would rigorous dieting and using weight exercises at the same time be counter productive?
for the average trainee I recommend taking it down a notch.
Choose what you want and use the sticky
ech, why do people say
3 x 10 crunches
3 x 10 chin ups
3 x 10 cock push ups
shouldn't you just do 3 sets of going until failure? A lot of people I know don't even count their reps anymore, they just go to failure.
[QUOTE=polarbear.;32457074]ech, why do people say
3 x 10 crunches
3 x 10 chin ups
3 x 10 cock push ups
shouldn't you just do 3 sets of going until failure? A lot of people I know don't even count their reps anymore, they just go to failure.[/QUOTE]
Its actually been proven, that multiple sets of going to failure, vs multiple sets of working to the grey area before muscle failure, is detrimental.
IE, better to do more sets without failure and perform better and complete more reps, than going to failure.
that's better for building mass?
[QUOTE=Septimas;32460352]Its actually been proven, that multiple sets of going to failure, vs multiple sets of working to the grey area before muscle failure, is detrimental.
IE, better to do more sets without failure and perform better and complete more reps, than going to failure.[/QUOTE]
afaik it's better to go to failure with calisthenics, but i may be wrong
hitting school weight room starting monday
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[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;32456857]I worked on triceps and abs two days ago. I think it's time for me to get started on biceps and forearms.
Is it wise to have a recovery day between gym visits?[/QUOTE]
It depends on if you're doing the same muscle or not. If one day you're doing back and then the next you do chest then its fine because you're working out a completely different muscle so its still getting rest. I workout 5 times a week and then have the weekends off because one or two days each week is a good break
What's a good abdominal exercise? I'm currently doing squats, deadlifts, bench presses, overhead presses, and barbell rows, and I don't feel like any of them are doing as much work to my abs as I'd like. Last night I did five sets of five inclined sit-ups while holding a weight to my chest, and the plan is to keep increasing that weight every time I go in. Do you think continuing down that path would be good, or is there something better you could recommend?
[editline]24th September 2011[/editline]
Or would it perhaps be best to just not deviate from my program?
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;32464447]What's a good abdominal exercise? I'm currently doing squats, deadlifts, bench presses, overhead presses, and barbell rows, and I don't feel like any of them are doing as much work to my abs as I'd like. [/QUOTE]
none of those exercises hit your abs .. you didn't know this? I recommend uh,
If you can do 20+ sit ups, start doing crunches, and when you can do lots of those, start using weights. Leg lifts are also great for lower abs.
[QUOTE=polarbear.;32465328]none of those exercises hit your abs .. you didn't know this? I recommend uh,.[/QUOTE]
I recommend you stop giving advice
heavy compounds DO hit the abs
[QUOTE=polarbear.;32465328]none of those exercises hit your abs .. you didn't know this? I recommend uh,
If you can do 20+ sit ups, start doing crunches, and when you can do lots of those, start using weights. Leg lifts are also great for lower abs.[/QUOTE]
I can do situps all day, for whatever reason. They just don't seem to put any strain on me. I've never really spent any time trying to build them, and my abs aren't [I]that[/I] strong, as soon as I hit an incline bench with some weight I start feeling the burn, so I have no idea what wizardry allows for this. Either way, just regular situps and crunches aren't cutting it.
The exercises I'm doing don't completely neglect my abs on any account, they just don't feel like they're doing a whole hell of a lot. After a workout, my legs, lower back, shoulders, chest, and arms might all be sore and rubbery, but my abs feel almost untouched. I'm thinking of just tacking on weighted incline situps, but are you sure there's nothing more comprehensive I could be doing?
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;32468762]I can do situps all day, for whatever reason. They just don't seem to put any strain on me. I've never really spent any time trying to build them, and my abs aren't [I]that[/I] strong, as soon as I hit an incline bench with some weight I start feeling the burn, so I have no idea what wizardry allows for this. Either way, just regular situps and crunches aren't cutting it.
The exercises I'm doing don't completely neglect my abs on any account, they just don't feel like they're doing a whole hell of a lot. After a workout, my legs, lower back, shoulders, chest, and arms might all be sore and rubbery, but my abs feel almost untouched. I'm thinking of just tacking on weighted incline situps, but are you sure there's nothing more comprehensive I could be doing?[/QUOTE]
polarbear is literally the dumbest person in this subforum, listen to jaeger and seith and pretty much only them. pain/"the burn"/ similar sensations =/= growth
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;32468762]I can do situps all day, for whatever reason. They just don't seem to put any strain on me. I've never really spent any time trying to build them, and my abs aren't [I]that[/I] strong, as soon as I hit an incline bench with some weight I start feeling the burn, so I have no idea what wizardry allows for this. Either way, just regular situps and crunches aren't cutting it.
The exercises I'm doing don't completely neglect my abs on any account, they just don't feel like they're doing a whole hell of a lot. After a workout, my legs, lower back, shoulders, chest, and arms might all be sore and rubbery, but my abs feel almost untouched. I'm thinking of just tacking on weighted incline situps, but are you sure there's nothing more comprehensive I could be doing?[/QUOTE]
Squats really work your core, by the way. But if you don't find it works them enough, implement knee raises into your warm up/cool down, now i'm not saying this will have any effect, but I do this, and it works them pretty well.
On a side note on abs, why do skinny people have no abs, but when fat people lose their fat, you can see their abs?
[QUOTE=lemoncurry;32469011]Squats really work your core, by the way. But if you don't find it works them enough, implement knee raises into your warm up/cool down, now i'm not saying this will have any effect, but I do this, and it works them pretty well.
On a side note on abs, why do skinny people have no abs, but when fat people lose their fat, you can see their abs?[/QUOTE]
"why do fat people have big calves"- u
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;32464447]What's a good abdominal exercise? I'm currently doing squats, deadlifts, bench presses, overhead presses, and barbell rows, and I don't feel like any of them are doing as much work to my abs as I'd like. Last night I did five sets of five inclined sit-ups while holding a weight to my chest, and the plan is to keep increasing that weight every time I go in. Do you think continuing down that path would be good, or is there something better you could recommend?
[editline]24th September 2011[/editline]
Or would it perhaps be best to just not deviate from my program?[/QUOTE]
I recommend watching videos on youtube of people's core workout. Try different combinations and exercises and see what fits you and what seems to work
Just got home from the gym. Man working out at sundays rule!
Just had a 3-week break from lifting (next week on tuesday), and it feels like I haven't lifted in a lifetime. I've eaten fairly loosely over that time and drunk fuck tons of alcohol pretty much every day, not sure what my weight is now, but my arms have decreased in size by about 1/8th of an inch.
Starting lifting again this coming Monday, when university begins.
I've got a tidy 40/30/30, 2900 calorie diet jacked and ready to be consumed from the moment I press 'go'.
In terms of training, I'm not sure where to go here. I think I'll probably do Starting Strength or SL for 1 month to re-introduce myself to mass, patch up any losses, and go up weight class, then either switch to Hypertrophy workouts or continue with SS if my gains are progressive enough to warrant continuation.
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;32471703]Just had a 3-week break from lifting (next week on tuesday), and it feels like I haven't lifted in a lifetime. I've eaten fairly loosely over that time and drunk fuck tons of alcohol pretty much every day, not sure what my weight is now, but my arms have decreased in size by about 1/8th of an inch.
Starting lifting again this coming Monday, when university begins.
I've got a tidy 40/30/30, 2900 calorie diet jacked and ready to be consumed from the moment I press 'go'.
In terms of training, I'm not sure where to go here. I think I'll probably do Starting Strength or SL for 1 month to re-introduce myself to mass, patch up any losses, and go up weight class, then either switch to Hypertrophy workouts or continue with SS if my gains are progressive enough to warrant continuation.[/QUOTE]
Why did you take a 3 week break? It ruins pretty much everything you did the last 1-1.5 months trainingwise.
What kind of weighted-ab exercises do people usually do? I'm trying to gain some mass in that area.
[QUOTE=Lhp40;32471758]Why did you take a 3 week break? It ruins pretty much everything you did the last 1-1.5 months trainingwise.[/QUOTE]
lol at you.
I'm on my break right now due to my broken hand but I still have most if not all of my gains.
granted my bench probably dropped 30kg but I can get that back fairly easily
[QUOTE=Lhp40;32471758]Why did you take a 3 week break? It ruins pretty much everything you did the last 1-1.5 months trainingwise.[/QUOTE]
I thought it took months for muscle mass to deteriorate?
Months or days, it really depends on stationary metabolic rate, general day-to-day activity.
Body reacts pretty quickly to changes in meals, so it will preserve up to 90% of the mass one owned while on active diet and training regimen.
Obviously, body will start deteriorating due to lack of stimulus, but claiming it will so loosely ridden itself so quickly - no.
[QUOTE=Lhp40;32471758]Why did you take a 3 week break? It ruins pretty much everything you did the last 1-1.5 months trainingwise.[/QUOTE]
Because I came to university, got wasted every night, woke up at 2pm every afternoon in other people's houses, etc.
Not exactly ideal training conditions.
So I have a conditioning class in school. We basically get to go to the gym to lift weights or go down to the track to run or do other cardio all on our own time. Its pretty personalized.
My most motivating thing is this. I weigh under 200 pounds but anywhere up near that makes it hard to do chin ups or pull ups for pretty much anybody.
Well after I did my training set for my bench press and found my max I tried to do a pull up. I went out on a limb here because I have never been able to do one in my life and if I just sit there and struggle I feel stupid. But low and behold I was able to pop out 2 and after that I freaked out so I jumped down because I couldn't believe it.
And now because of that motivation and that class I have been able to lose weight and my arms are looking great! I am always really self concious of my arms because they were mostly just blobs even though my lower body is freaking amazing.
I love being able to walk so much faster naturally, climb trees to get my cats or hop fences with ease and feeling better about myself. I fit better in my shirts and feel quite the opposite about wearing tighter shirts now. I quite like wearing more tighter fitting shirts because before I would hate them and prefer bigger ones.
Thats just my little story of motivation and progress. All of this has motivated me to keep this up for the rest of my life. I cannot wait to see more of my progress.
[QUOTE=Mr. Sun;32473495]
My most motivating thing is this. I weigh under 200 pounds but anywhere up near that makes it hard to do chin ups or pull ups for pretty much anybody.[/QUOTE]
Nah, if you're 200lbs lean and have beast lats you could do pull-ups without any problems.
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;32473411]Because I came to university, got wasted every night, woke up at 2pm every afternoon in other people's houses, etc.
Not exactly ideal training conditions.[/QUOTE]
True. I spend my entire summer holiday getting wasted every night. But now i've started training again 3 weeks ago, and i'm pretty much at my used to be form.
Yeah if you have decent amount of muscles but a lot of overweight people that weigh around that much won't have any upper body strength because they don't work out and which will explain their weight.
My friend is skinny and doesn't have hardly any muscle but he can do pull ups.
I think it has something to do with the upperbody:weight ratio. I don't know how I can really explain it properly.
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