• I used to be an "Sjw"- Personal Story
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Biology has an influence on how we abstract gender, that can't be denied really. There's a reason that, while different cultures have added some genders and had different gender expectations, you could almost always bet on there at least being the two. But only looking at biology misses the full picture. Simply the fact that we refer to people who are biologically different (e.g. intersex, XX male, XXY female) as the normal binary suggests that much.
Why does it seem to be impossible to have an honest discussion about the SJW problem without heading into MGTOW/Red Pill territory? It seems like whenever I see the word SJW it's always being used for some dishonest or manipulative purpose.
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;52943765]Why does it seem to be impossible to have an honest discussion about the SJW problem without heading into MGTOW/Red Pill territory? It seems like whenever I see the word SJW it's always being used for some dishonest or manipulative purpose.[/QUOTE] Because every side in this debate has constructed a caricatured totem of all the other sides with which they use to debate. Having an honest debate about this issue is actually impossible.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52943750]???? uh which strawman we talking about here?[/QUOTE] Assertiveness is masculine and female can't be masculine making her transgender because showing traits associated with other gender, if what I said seems outlandish then I am at peace knowing I've probably just been driveled by really questionable people.
[QUOTE=Combine 177;52943804]Assertiveness is masculine and female can't be masculine making her transgender because showing traits associated with other gender, if what I said seems outlandish then I am at peace knowing I've probably just been driveled by really questionable people.[/QUOTE] What in the everloving shit are you talking about
[QUOTE=AtomicSans;52943808]What in the everloving shit are you talking about[/QUOTE] Good I am talking nonsense, honestly best outcome.
[QUOTE=Combine 177;52943804]Assertiveness is masculine and female can't be masculine making her transgender because showing traits associated with other gender, if what I said seems outlandish then I am at peace knowing I've probably just been driveled by really questionable people.[/QUOTE] My dude, tomboys aren't trans men, and feminine men aren't trans girls. The way someone acts doesn't define their gender.
Alright I'll bite [sp] And hopefully the lights wont go out of this home when im finishing this comment GODDAMMIT[/sp] We had some familiars that have come out as gay, bi or trans, between many others, Some of these familiars are usually quite away, like living in a far out region or even in another country. But this year my Cousin (from my Grandpa) he admitted that he was bisexual, which for many of our families it came out as a surprise, while shocked at first many of our family thankfully accepted it. The problem here was those who didn't accept it or still don't know about it. One of them being my stepmother, who is actually my cousin's mother, and the second one being my Cousin's Biological Father, who has a really despective view towards LGBT Stuff. I was dissapointed that my stepmother started treating my cousing with a really demaning matter, Sometimes she would not even talk to him, or sometimes straight up insult him. Well, Time passed and if I could I tried talking to her to see if I can convince her that being Bi is not a bad thing. Time passed and thankfully, Everything seems to have gone better with her, she started treating my cousin like an actual human being. About the Biological Father however, boy thats a different story, honestly everybody is afraid (thanks to his views) that he's just gonna leave my cousin if he ever tells the truth to him, The biological father also had quite some fights with the Legal Father which makes things worse. Whats really sad about this, is that the dude is quite liked by the family, he always helps if he can, he brings money when its necessary, and sometimes he even let us travel with him to so really radical (yeah i said radical) places in this Country, which has a lot. Its just that some of his views on LGBT stuff is so negative, and nobody cared because many didn't expect that my cousin would come out and admit that he's Bisexual, It really show's how complicated humans can be (Sorry if this latest sounded a little pretentious). Well, one day he will know the truth and many hope (me included) that he's gonna stay calm about it and accept it, I try to comfort my cousin whenever I can, He has a boyfriend, and he's a really swell dude, We usually go play video games at some arcades near my cousin's home. I know i might have derailed on the main topic of the video, which is those really extremist people who tarnishes the actual good people in LGBT and other progressive movements. But considering what my cousin is going through, The fact that many transexual people already are going trough an Internal fight, the pressure they must feel when going through something like my cousin is going through ALONG with that internal fight they are having, man it must feel fucking awful. So you can bet your ass im gonna help them the most that I can and not fuck it up in the process.
[QUOTE=ZnT00;52943817]My dude, tomboys aren't trans men, and feminine men aren't trans girls. The way someone acts doesn't define their gender.[/QUOTE] I agree, it was more about I've been told by some people on internet if you act bit differently of stereotype you would already be "trans" which to me always seemed backwards. Good to know that isn't actually the view majority of people have.
[QUOTE=Berman Slick;52944362] But it revolves around 0.3% of the population and if we don't agree with them 100% we're bigots and fascists right?[/QUOTE] Not an argument. The question is what you're disagreeing on and why.
[QUOTE=Berman Slick;52944461]I just had a huge response to this and those who disagreed with me typed up, a handful of hefty paragraphs trying to sympathize and relate in my own situation that I didn't at all explain in my original post, in an attempt to help people who struggle with dysphoria and dysmorphia in a way that helped me, but my first post has your minds made up so I'll take the L unless you want to talk to me real-time and help me understand better. That and I'm confused. Nobody posted to disagree with my first point on BLM and our Pride parade. Guess that was fine?[/QUOTE] I mean you could answer AtomicSans and explain why their concept of gender dysphoria is false, along with why it's comparable to sexuality. And sure, that group of BLM people were acting like morons. I'm not even entirely sure why BLM is involved in Canada, the situation is quite different from America's.
[QUOTE=Berman Slick;52944534]If what i said implied I thought their concept was “false” that’s not what I intended at all[/QUOTE] It's not really an attempt at helping people with their dysphoria then is it.
[QUOTE=Berman Slick;52944534]If what i said implied I thought their concept was “false” that’s not what I intended at all[/QUOTE] You quite literally said that my dysphoria is "sad and self-victimizing." So it seems to me that that is what you intended.
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