A classmate of mine committed suicide today because of bullying - General

It ain't easy being a queer.

[QUOTE=Motherfucker;28813844] Like if there's a gay person in the room I will poop myself.[/QUOTE] you're just making room in there

Do you automatically get straight As or is that a urban myth?

[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;28804385]Wasn't that the guy from the Flashback forums?[/QUOTE] Yarr, Marcus Jannes was his name.

I agree with maverick, suicide is for pussies.

[QUOTE=MaverickIB;28813611]It's amazing how you guys know more about me than I do. I wasn't depressed for very long? Well shit, I didn't know that. Must be some kind of memory implants the Illuminati are using to make me remember things differently. Also, "kiddo" and variations of it are simply how I talk. Getting butthurt over something like that does nothing but support my statement that the only people who get suicidal are emotionally oversensitive. I was a bully as a little kid, but was bullied when I got a little older. Yeah, I never got over it and it's not like I've made an effort to be friends with kids that got bullied so I could help them and whatnot. Totally never got over it. It's clear that having an intelligent discussion with y'all is impossible. I make a statement, y'all make personal attacks. Rinse, dry, repeat. Peace.[/QUOTE] I like how on your steam you basically say you're an asshole and people should deal with it, yet you bitch and cry when we call you out on it. If you're going to put up this image that you're a cold heartless prick and be proud of it, don't whine when people go after you for that.

[QUOTE=Parakon;28815210]I agree with maverick, suicide is for pussies.[/QUOTE] future counselor/psychologist right here folks [editline]26th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=MaverickIB;28813611]It's amazing how you guys know more about me than I do. I wasn't depressed for very long? Well shit, I didn't know that. Must be some kind of memory implants the Illuminati are using to make me remember things differently. Also, "kiddo" and variations of it are simply how I talk. Getting butthurt over something like that does nothing but support my statement that the only people who get suicidal are emotionally oversensitive.[/QUOTE] you either a) weren't really depressed or b) have a lack of empathy and understanding for depressed people and depression how long were you "depressed?" does your family have a history of depression? what might've possibly triggered it? were you diagnosed by a professional? were you put on medication?

[QUOTE=The LocalFlavor;28815817]I like how on your steam you basically say you're an asshole and people should deal with it, yet you bitch and cry when we call you out on it. If you're going to put up this image that you're a cold heartless prick and be proud of it, don't whine when people go after you for that.[/QUOTE] I'm not "bitching and crying" about people calling me an asshole. Yes, I am an asshole. Yes, I am narcissistic. However, neither of those things automatically make anything I'm saying incorrect. People are practically saying "You're wrong because you're an asshole," which means they need to read up on their fallacies. EDIT: Ahaha, oh god, it just clicked in my head. I got people fishing through my accounts on other websites now looking for shit to call me out on and I'm the one getting worked up? Oh wow.

[QUOTE=MaverickIB;28817853]People are practically saying "You're wrong because you're an asshole,[/QUOTE] not at all no one has said that. for one, you're wrong because you think being suicidal is a choice and that you can just "man up" and get over it. on top of being wrong, you've also been a condescending jerk.

Haha, this is ridiculous. Don't know why I'm wasting my time. I guess I'll try to make this clear one more time. Please make an effort to read. You know, letters form words. Words form sentences. Left to right. I'm not saying being depressed/suicidal is something you can just "will away" or anything like that. What I am saying is that only mentally weak people actually kill themselves, as mentally strong people find the strength to keep fighting through their depression. Can they will it away? No, but they can make an effort to fight it until they find help or it goes away on its own.

[QUOTE=MaverickIB;28817952]or it goes away on its own.[/QUOTE] lmao depression doesn't just "go away on its own."

Are you that dense. Of course it's not going to just go away out of nowhere, I mean that in the context of natural life events unfolding in a manner that cause it to go away, like finding a new romantic partner or something like that. Didn't feel like going through a list of things people wait to come save them from depression, but it looks like I can't take any shortcuts because you kiddos have zero critical thinking skills.

[QUOTE=JDK721;28817968]lmao depression doesn't just "go away on its own."[/QUOTE] How about you don't just pick away the weak points and consider his whole statement?

[QUOTE=MaverickIB;28817952]Haha, this is ridiculous. Don't know why I'm wasting my time. I guess I'll try to make this clear one more time. Please make an effort to read. You know, letters form words. Words form sentences. Left to right.[/QUOTE] being condescending once again [QUOTE=MaverickIB;28817952]What I am saying is that only mentally weak people actually kill themselves, as mentally strong people find the strength to keep fighting through their depression.[/QUOTE] condescending as well to call them "mentally weak people." once again, you're not a doctor, and you have never been suicidal. you don't have a clue about how a depressed person can be driven to suicide. [editline]26th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=MaverickIB;28818066]Are you that dense. Of course it's not going to just go away out of nowhere, I mean that in the context of natural life events unfolding in a manner that cause it to go away, like finding a new romantic partner or something like that. Didn't feel like going through a list of things people wait to come save them from depression, but it looks like I can't take any shortcuts because you kiddos have zero critical thinking skills.[/QUOTE] the chances of depression going away on its own like that are not that good

[QUOTE=MrJazzy;28770785][I]True[/I] free will may be an illusion but we need free will to understand ourselves and our society.[/QUOTE] That doesn't make any sense.

The "mentally strong people" probably had someone to help them get out of it. When I was depressed my family took me to therapy and I got better over time. Looks like this guy had no real friends to turn to or thought everybody hated him.

[QUOTE=Parakon;28818084]How about you don't just pick away the weak points and consider his whole statement?[/QUOTE] I'm refuting each of his points separately

Who cares if it's condescending? Jesus christ, cry me a river already, some guy online is being condescending, shut down everything. Are you a doctor? You don't have a clue how a depressed person can be driven to suicide. Just because you were depressed/suicidal does not make you an expert on the subject, if anything, it clearly makes you biased towards thinking it is justified. Your point is no more valid than mine. I love how you kids talk about depression like it's some super powerful mind controlling condition that dooms whoever gets it to a death by suicide. Tons of people get depression, most just stick through it like normal human beings. The weak ones kill themselves, they are a minority. I'm willing to bet most people just stick through their depression until it passes and don't get any professional help. If a catalyst can randomly cause your brain to be chemically imbalanced, than a catalyst can revert it back to normal. [editline]26th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Domokun;28818251]The "mentally strong people" probably had someone to help them get out of it. When I was depressed my family took me to therapy and I got better over time. Looks like this guy had no real friends to turn to or thought everybody hated him.[/QUOTE] Oh yeah, I'm not saying only heartless terminators get through it. Plenty of people need help, there's nothing wrong with it. If I were to get depressed again, I'd seek help, that's what anyone that is depressed should do. When I was depressed a few years ago, I got through it on my own, but it was one hell of a rough ride. Wouldn't wish that upon anyone.

[QUOTE=MaverickIB;28818353]Who cares if it's condescending? Jesus christ, cry me a river already, some guy online is being condescending, shut down everything.[/QUOTE] if you're gonna be condescending at least know what you're talking about [QUOTE=MaverickIB;28818353]Are you a doctor? You don't have a clue how a depressed person can be driven to suicide.[/QUOTE] judging from your posts in this thread, I know a lot more about the subject than you [QUOTE=MaverickIB;28818353]Just because you were depressed/suicidal does not make you an expert on the subject[/QUOTE] no one here has claimed to be an expert [QUOTE=MaverickIB;28818353]Your point is no more valid than mine.[/QUOTE] except my points are supported by experts, whereas you are just talking out of your ass and acting like you have a clue about depression/suicidality [QUOTE=MaverickIB;28818353] I love how you kids talk about depression like it's some super powerful mind controlling condition that dooms whoever gets it to a death by suicide.[/QUOTE] why do you keep saying "kids" and "kiddos." you don't even know how old I am. and no, no one is saying depression = suicide. where are you getting all these assumptions from? [QUOTE=MaverickIB;28818353]Tons of people get depression, most just stick through it like normal human beings. The weak ones kill themselves, they are a minority.[/QUOTE] depression varies in severity. one person may have a minor case of depression and not be suicidal while another may have clinical depression and be suicidal. it's not a one size fits all situation. [QUOTE=MaverickIB;28818353]The weak ones kill themselves, they are a minority.[/QUOTE] there you go again. calling them "weak." you've never been suicidal. [quote]I'm willing to bet most people just stick through their depression until it passes and don't get any professional help.[/quote] many don't seek help because they're embarrassed to, and people like you are ones who keep the stigma alive. people like you who call them "weak" and "pussies." the ones who don't seek help are also the ones who have a much greater chance of committing suicide. depression generally worsens over time when left untreated.

If he didn't want to live fine, but taking your life is weak. If i had been bullied so fucking bad i wanted to kill myself i would probably Bring a knife to school and stab those fuckers instead. I rather live with consequence then not live at all.

[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;28819259]If he didn't want to live fine, but taking your life is weak. If i had been bullied so fucking bad i wanted to kill myself i would probably Bring a knife to school and stab those fuckers instead. I rather live with consequence then not live at all.[/QUOTE] People deal with shit differently, if I was gay and someone seriously had the nerve to insult me over it i'd go into hulk mode and Casey his ass. I don't see why the kid in the OP committed suicide, probably because I don't know everything he was going through. But he had a boyfriend who loved him and junk, some kids picking on me because I was gay isn't something that'd drive me to suicide.

I know OP most likely won't see my post- but I live in the same area and heard about Drew through Facebook. Seeing it on Facebook is just really... odd. This is such a tragedy.

[QUOTE=MaverickIB;28818353]Who cares if it's condescending? Jesus christ, cry me a river already, some guy online is being condescending, shut down everything.[/QUOTE] Bitch about not being able to have an intelligent conversation + Be hilariously condescending = ??? [QUOTE=MaverickIB;28818353]Are you a doctor? You don't have a clue how a depressed person can be driven to suicide. Just because you were depressed/suicidal does not make you an expert on the subject, if anything, it clearly makes you biased towards thinking it is justified. Your point is no more valid than mine. I love how you kids talk about depression like it's some super powerful mind controlling condition that dooms whoever gets it to a death by suicide. Tons of people get depression, most just stick through it like normal human beings. The weak ones kill themselves, they are a minority. I'm willing to bet most people just stick through their depression until it passes and don't get any professional help. If a catalyst can randomly cause your brain to be chemically imbalanced, than a catalyst can revert it back to normal. [/QUOTE] You're making all these claims, back them up. [editline]26th March 2011[/editline] Also, millions of people attempt suicide every year and it is the leading cause of death of people under 30-39 (I forgot the exact age).

[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;28819259]If he didn't want to live fine, but taking your life is weak. If i had been bullied so fucking bad i wanted to kill myself i would probably Bring a knife to school and stab those fuckers instead. I rather live with consequence then not live at all.[/QUOTE] What's more selfish - taking your own life when you don't want it or taking someone else's when they do Answer key: it's the second one [editline]26th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=MaverickIB;28817853]Yes, I am an asshole. Yes, I am narcissistic. However, neither of those things automatically make anything I'm saying incorrect.[/QUOTE] Your posts are opinions, not fact. Opinions can fall in the grey area between correct and incorrect, as yours are. But the fact that they're [i]asshole opinions[/i] makes them not worth listening to.

[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;28819941]Hey Maverick, how about you stop pulling facts out your arse and instead SHUT UP? You obviously have absolutely no idea of how it's like to be depressed. Stop acting like you're an expert. Your claims are just fucking ridiculous and you're making a big fucking joke out of yourself. Why do you even post here if everyone's wrong and dumb and stupid?[/QUOTE] It's very possible that he was actually depressed, I don't know. But he said himself that he was never suicidal so he pretty much admitted that he has no idea. Maverick you seem to think that suicide is something that depressed people turn to one day out of the blue to stop the depression, and that's an understandable misconception, but at least be man enough to admit that you were wrong about it It's something that builds over months or even years and something that appears so gradually is very often missed until it is too late It isn't even something that only goes along with depression, many other psychological disorders can cause suicidal thoughts to manifest

[IMG]http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/Frost327/Joker/1181911796832.gif[/IMG] [editline]26th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;28820002]It's very possible that he was actually depressed, I don't know. But he said himself that he was never suicidal so he pretty much admitted that he has no idea. Maverick you seem to think that suicide is something that depressed people turn to one day out of the blue to stop the depression, and that's an understandable misconception, but at least be man enough to admit that you were wrong about it It's something that builds over months or even years and something that appears so gradually is very often missed until it is too late It isn't even something that only goes along with depression, many other psychological disorders can cause suicidal thoughts to manifest[/QUOTE] In before "I was wrong but that doesn't-"

Suicide is for pussies.

It's like a fucking merry-go-round.

[QUOTE=certified;28820199]Suicide is for pussies.[/QUOTE] finally some NEW content in the thread

[QUOTE=Zeke129;28819810]What's more selfish - taking your own life when you don't want it or taking someone else's when they do Answer key: it's the second one [/QUOTE] Both are selfish because taking your own life means probably a trauma for the one who sees you hanging in your room and lots of pain for the ones who love you. But when you murder someone, something similar applies (people see you murdering someone, very painful for family and friends of the victim and the murderer) so I don't really think you could call one more selfish than the other to be honest.