A classmate of mine committed suicide today because of bullying - General

[QUOTE=RAG Frag;28823899]yes, acting like you think being gay is a choice is a choice, it really doesn't take much to pretend you're interested in are tolerant of gay people, what part of this do you not understand? but you know what, fuck it, you haven't even read beyond "emotionally" and I'm wasting my time trying to present a reasonable argument to you[/QUOTE] I can't understand the mess of words coming from your posts but if I'm reading it right you're yet another shit-flinger that's skipping straight to calling me a homophobe and not even bothering to pretend that gay people act straight all the time have any of you heard the phrase, [h2]in the closet?[/h2] gay people act straight all the time, why are you people trying to tell me it's a travesty to try to avoid being bullied into suicide?

[QUOTE=BrQ;28823860]I mean the people who make it obvious that they are gay. Like when you're at school and you see this person and you think 'he's obviously gay' because of his choice of clothes or because he walks hand in hand with another boy or something. My point is that those people will receive nasty comments because of some people's bigoted views, which is very stupid but it happens a lot[/QUOTE] You make a better point than Android Phone, they could just hold hands or dress up after school rather than get bullied because of it.

[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;28823905]See here, Android! How about trying to make your point sound like a fact rather than an insult?[/QUOTE] practice what you preach buddy, you've done nothing but yell at me this entire time [editline]26th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Domokun;28824009]You make a better point than Android Phone, they could just hold hands or dress up after school rather than get bullied because of it.[/QUOTE] that is literally exactly the point I've been trying to make this entire thread

[QUOTE=Android phone;28824019] that is literally exactly the point I've been trying to make this entire thread[/QUOTE] Then why the fuck didn't you say so!? You said gay people should stop being gay.

[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;28824035]I thought you left? :frogbon:[/QUOTE] I can't imagine why I haven't yet, I'm staying to congratulate you on all your strawmen (like this one, no argument yet again?) I guess

[QUOTE=Zeke129;28823936]Absolutely, it's despicable. And is completely not a legitimate reason for gays to have to hide their identity.[/QUOTE] They are not required to do anything. It's just that hiding their sexual preferences can and probably will make their lives easier because of bigots

I thought it was pink day not purple day.

[QUOTE=Domokun;28824052]Then why the fuck didn't you say so!? You said gay people should stop being gay.[/QUOTE] [h2]I haven't said gay people shot stop BEING gay once in this thread[/h2]for the love of fuck you guys, you probably think I have because of all the shit Zeke's been saying but if one of you would just look through my posts in this thread for christ's sakes [editline]26th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=BrQ;28824062]They are not required to do anything. It's just that hiding their sexual preferences can and probably will make their lives easier because of bigots[/QUOTE] and hiding their sexual preferences (does it sound better when I say it like that or something) will keep them from being bullied into suicide, agreed

You're telling gay people to stay in the closet and that is absolutely unacceptable to say, leave

[QUOTE=Android phone;28822588]if society was predominantly gay and gays bullied straights into suicide I'd say act less straight and stop making yourself a target if you get bullied to where you're contemplating killing yourself because you wear glasses and people make fun of you for it, [b]wear fucking contacts[/b], problem solved[/QUOTE] You realise it was this attitude that got me PTSD and a house deposit right?

Its the way you word shit that makes people misunderstand you.

[QUOTE=Domokun;28824118]Its the way you word shit that makes people misunderstand you.[/QUOTE] He's wording things fine, he wants gay people to stay in the closet and thinks that this isn't homophobic.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;28824105]You're telling gay people to stay in the closet and that is absolutely unacceptable to say, leave[/QUOTE] no, I'm not, let's go over this one more time all I've said is that staying in the closet will reduce or completely evaporate any bullying they're currently facing, and that means that they won't commit suicide because of bullying, how fucking thick are you to not understand that?

[QUOTE=Zeke129;28824127]He's wording things fine, he wants gay people to stay in the closet and thinks that this isn't homophobic.[/QUOTE] Seriously? Haha, that is fucked up man. EDIT: You could have just said that gay people should not hold hands in school and be done with it.

[QUOTE=Domokun;28824164]Seriously? Haha, that is fucked up man.[/QUOTE] this is what I meant by taking everything zeke says as the word of god, read the post directly above yours

[QUOTE=Zeke129;28823669]Anyone agreeing with android phone, here is the man you are agreeing with: [img_thumb]http://i.cubeupload.com/hFY0Y1.png[/img_thumb] This was in the context of transgender individuals[/QUOTE] I just remembered that Android Phone is the account CCritical uses to troll mane. [img]http://i.imgur.com/Seb9V.png[/img] I pm'd him when he was still posting in the BC2 thread

[QUOTE=Android phone;28824158] all I've said is that staying in the closet will reduce or completely evaporate any bullying they're currently facing, and that means that they won't commit suicide because of bullying, how fucking thick are you to not understand that?[/QUOTE] The difference between the two things isn't as big as you seem to think. By saying this you are supporting discrimination of homosexuals through apathy and that [b]is not okay[/b]

[QUOTE=Zeke129;28824212]The difference between the two things isn't as big as you seem to think. By saying this you are supporting discrimination of homosexuals through apathy and that [b]is not okay[/b][/QUOTE] how the literal fuck does saying how to reduce the likelihood of suicide mean I support discrimination everything I've said in this thread you've twisted into anti-homosexual propaganda, I think if you weren't so hardcore militant you'd agree with what I'm saying

[QUOTE=Android phone;28824232]how the literal fuck does saying how to reduce the likelihood of suicide mean I support discrimination everything I've said in this thread you've twisted into anti-homosexual propaganda, I think if you weren't so hardcore militant you'd agree with what I'm saying[/QUOTE] I will never agree with "gays should pretend to not be gay" no matter what the context is

[QUOTE=Zeke129;28824293]I will never agree with "gays should pretend to not be gay" no matter what the context is[/QUOTE] you're implying you'd rather a gay commit suicide than stay in the closet then [editline]26th March 2011[/editline] see, I can do that too

[QUOTE=Android phone;28824319]you're implying you'd rather a gay commit suicide than stay in the closet then[/QUOTE] I'd rather the bigots shut their face

[QUOTE=Zeke129;28824368]I'd rather the bigots shut their face[/QUOTE] we all do, but that won't happen :saddowns:

[QUOTE=Zeke129;28824368]I'd rather the bigots shut their face[/QUOTE] but now your order of preference is 1. bigots shut up if that doesn't work, then 2. gay commits suicide then, finally, as a last decision 3. gay stays in the closet I'm aghast that you can wonder why I think what I do then start thinking like this

[QUOTE=Android phone;28824420]but now your order of preference is 1. bigots shut up if that doesn't work, then 2. gay commits suicide then, finally, as a last decision 3. gay stays in the closet[/quote] Ugh [QUOTE=Android phone;28824420]I'm aghast that you can wonder why I think what I do then start thinking like this[/QUOTE] :psyduck:

what, no snide misinterpretations?

[QUOTE=Android phone;28824467]what, no snide misinterpretations?[/QUOTE] You think gays should stay in the closet for their own protection, [b]nothing more has to be said[/b] this is essentially what you mean, right? I'm not [i]misinterpreting?[/i]

yes that's what I mean, I'd rather someone live a few years of their lives as someone they don't feel like they are instead of take their life because of what someone else thinks of them, why in the name of fuck does that make me a bad person?

[QUOTE=Android phone;28824557]yes that's what I mean, I'd rather someone live a few years of their lives as someone they don't feel like they are instead of take their life because of what someone else thinks of them, why in the name of fuck does that make me a bad person?[/QUOTE] Wait, you really don't see the problem with what you're saying? Honestly?

No. What bone could you possibly have to pick with advice on preventing bullying, especially when it would either completely stop or dramatically reduce the amount of suicides caused by it? You're like one of those "fuk da police" people, except you take it to a whole new level, it's more like "fuk da fire department" because you can't see how much they help you through all the shit coming out of your mouth. I haven't condoned bullying once, I've restated that I think that it's bad in almost every one of my posts, it's an unfortunate thing and it's terrible that it drives kids to suicide, you agree with me on that part. I cannot comprehend one reason why you would seriously try to tell me that I'm a bad person for saying there's a way to prevent it.

[QUOTE=Android phone;28824715]No. What bone could you possibly have to pick with advice on preventing bullying, especially when it would either completely stop or dramatically reduce the amount of suicides caused by it? You're like one of those "fuk da police" people, except you take it to a whole new level, it's more like "fuk da fire department" because you can't see how much they help you through all the shit coming out of your mouth. I haven't condoned bullying once, I've restated that I think that it's bad in almost every one of my posts, it's an unfortunate thing and it's terrible that it drives kids to suicide, you agree with me on that part. I cannot comprehend one reason why you would seriously try to tell me that I'm a bad person for saying there's a way to prevent it.[/QUOTE] I understand completely what you're saying but you need to take a walk in my shoes as a bisexual male and realize just how offensive it is to hear that the onus of preventing my own victimization should be on me.