• Musculoskeletal Robot Driven by Multifilament Muscles
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[video=youtube;0ZBD2tcKOU4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZBD2tcKOU4[/video]
Looks cool, but very slow so far. I wonder if this could go places once refined.
If this technology becomes more advanced it will be a far better option for prosthetics than those servo motors.
i give us 20 years before we'll be living in deus ex
i wonder how much power this uses up compared to servos
[QUOTE=killover;50726138]i give us 20 years before we'll be living in deus ex[/QUOTE] This looks more like a skeleton war future.
This kind of creeps me out, a talking skeleton robot.
[QUOTE=RaptorJGW;50726071]If this technology becomes more advanced it will be a far better option for prosthetics than those servo motors.[/QUOTE] These false muscles could also be grafted to the body, making prosthesis more permanent.
By the looks of it, these have a better option in mobility too, the skeleton flared out a hip which is awesome to be able to articulate your body that way for a below the waist amputee. I wonder if these can be wrapped around a paralyzed persons limbs.
[QUOTE=Karmah;50726846]These false muscles could also be grafted to the body, making prosthesis more permanent.[/QUOTE] A big problem is wouldn't we have to worry about biocompatibility? We cant just slap anything onto the body and have it just work, and I'd rather a future where augmented people / people with prosthetics don't have to rely on Neuropozyne-esque drugs. edit: Thats why Titanium is used so often in joint replacements etc, because its the most biocompatible material out there iirc.
dumbass robot trying to kick a basketball
Oh hi Battletech. IIRC. Battlemechs move using a system like this.
[QUOTE=Swilly;50726984]Oh hi Battletech. IIRC. Battlemechs move using a system like this.[/QUOTE] yeah, Myomer Fibers, and I'm going to be really disappointed if they're not going to call them that.
Hey, they could make a 'muscle suit' out of these.
How do these muscles work? I doubt they work the same way as biological muscles because biological muscles work using microscopic physics that's unfeasible to imitate on a technological level. Depending on how they work they may only work slow, and it might be impossible to have a fast, quickly reacting version.
oh my god dont let the skeletons know about this, or they wont need us anymore
obligatory skynet reference.
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;50727367]How do these muscles work? I doubt they work the same way as biological muscles because biological muscles work using microscopic physics that's [B]unfeasible to imitate on a technological level. [/B] Depending on how they work they may only work slow, and it might be impossible to have a fast, quickly reacting version.[/QUOTE] Why should this have to be the case? There is no principled reason why we can't figure it out.
Can we fuck it yet?
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;50727660]Why should this have to be the case? There is no principled reason why we can't figure it out.[/QUOTE] I suppose it's not impossible but animal muscles are made of billions of physically interacting microscopic parts on the molecular level and are dependent on the tissue being able to repair itself. I don't think it's feasible to recreate.
I'd imagine artificial muscles like these have a good chance of playing a big role in the future of robotics, but that seems a fair ways off at present. I'm interested to see how this kind of technology will turn out once it has been refined though.
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;50727861]I suppose it's not impossible but animal muscles are made of billions of physically interacting microscopic parts on the molecular level and are dependent on the tissue being able to repair itself. I don't think it's feasible to recreate.[/QUOTE] *yet
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;50727367]How do these muscles work? I doubt they work the same way as biological muscles because biological muscles work using microscopic physics that's unfeasible to imitate on a technological level. Depending on how they work they may only work slow, and it might be impossible to have a fast, quickly reacting version.[/QUOTE] Not all moving things in electronics are made of motors, it's not like to make a fiber that contracts/expands with electricity it would need to be tiny microscopic motors. That's where the materials engineering guys come in really strong strong. That being said, these are literally just tubes of air as far as I can tell. Pneumatics as muscles for robots is far from a new thing, it's one of the oldest types of robotics we have. This is definitely the most densely packed simulation of muscles I've seen but it's still not all that new
The materials needed to make these work seem within the realm of possibility. We already know how memory metals work, using thermal energy to return to a previously known form. It's not too extreme a leap for material scientists to want to work out if that can be done via electrical current instead. I could see each muscle fibre essentially being a coil that when current isn't applied, is flexible and uncoils a bit. But as current is applied regains rigidity and returns to a tighter coil shape. Sheathed in something to prevent them from tangling on each other.
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;50727861]I suppose it's not impossible but animal muscles are made of billions of physically interacting microscopic parts on the molecular level and are dependent on the tissue being able to repair itself. I don't think it's feasible to recreate.[/QUOTE] funny you mention it, [img]http://pop.h-cdn.co/assets/16/27/1467913304-park10.gif[/img] it's a stingray made from rat heart muscle [url]http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/robots/a21716/swimming-stingray-robot-rat-cells/[/url]
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;50727367]How do these muscles work? I doubt they work the same way as biological muscles because biological muscles work using microscopic physics that's unfeasible to imitate on a technological level. Depending on how they work they may only work slow, and it might be impossible to have a fast, quickly reacting version.[/QUOTE] These look pneumatic, with external source of low pressure. I could be completely mistaken though.
i imagined the skeleton had a Banjo-Kazooie-style voice that went "CLICK CLACK CLACK" when it was talking
Great, now they're not only twice as spooky, but also twice as scary. [QUOTE=TrulliLulli;50728720]funny you mention it, <Stingray>[/QUOTE] But that's a real, organic muscle cell. I believe he means a fully synthetic replication that behaves like a true muscle culture. Nevertheless, it's still a pretty interesting advancement, the application of organic cells being driven by man-made technologies can open so many new doors in science.
[QUOTE=Angry pepper;50730039]Great, now they're not only twice as spooky, but also twice as scary. But that's a real, organic muscle cell. I believe he means a fully synthetic replication that behaves like a true muscle culture. Nevertheless, it's still a pretty interesting advancement, the application of organic cells being driven by man-made technologies can open so many new doors in science.[/QUOTE] I mean like I said earlier people mostly just use pneumatics but if you really want electrically operated wires that can contract/expand then muscle wire works. It's just not quite as powerful as pneumatics or hydraulics, but it can definitely be fit into smaller devices. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT1iDtDvx58[/media]
Can't wait to donate my skeleton to the military so they can make me a skeleton battlebot when I die
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