My Issues Regarding "Disabilities" Threads - General

Race advancing is really dumb thing. We are advanced enough and disabled people don't stop anyone from advancing. If you want to advance so much, you should also kill/deal with africa and their hunger, china and their overpopulation and so on. What are YOU doing to advance our race? Smoking pot doesn't help.

[QUOTE=BykeRyder;21115922]The first part of yoru post is dusturbing. People who have psoposed similair arguments: Germanies Nazi regime Stalin The KKK Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold And ofcourse I also agree that not all drinkers, or drug users (i do both) are wasteful people, not by any means. I was simply condemning the ones who cant function as a normal member of society due to their own choices. And was proposing that these people are a FAR greater financial and social burden on society. Ghandi once said: "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Some of you people cant even treat other people as humans. A great indicator of a civilised people is their compasion towards, understanding of and acceptance of their less fortunate individuals. Disabled people are part of us, and always will be. You cannot out-breed natural genetic mutation. Its how life works.[/QUOTE] These men were troubled. I am not saying black people are inferior. They have survived with no help for centuries. I am not saying jews are inferior, they have survived for centuries. I am not saying people are bad because of something they can't control, I am saying that we need to stop wasting so much so that a select few can live. Your argument is full of logical fallacy's. Godwin's Law is being broken countless times. You are saying that natural mutation is a reason to help these people. But it isn't. Natural or not, they still would not survive if our world was instilled with logical laws were enforced. Not laws based on emotion, or religion, but cold, hard, logic.

[QUOTE=johanz;21116035]Race advancing is really dumb thing. We are advanced enough and disabled people don't stop anyone from advancing. If you want to advance so much, you should also kill/deal with africa and their hunger, china and their overpopulation and so on. What are YOU doing to advance our race? Smoking pot doesn't help.[/QUOTE] The way you worded that made it seem like you assume that everyone, that isn't disabled, smokes pot.

[QUOTE=davidofmk771;21116046]These men were troubled. I am not saying black people are inferior. They have survived with no help for centuries. I am not saying jews are inferior, they have survived for centuries. I am not saying people are bad because of something they can't control, I am saying that we need to stop wasting so much so that a select few can live. Your argument is full of logical fallacy's. Godwin's Law is being broken countless times. You are saying that natural mutation is a reason to help these people. But it isn't. Natural or not, they still would not survive if our world was instilled with logical laws were enforced. Not laws based on emotion, or religion, but cold, hard, logic.[/QUOTE] Emotions is what makes us human. If we were living by logic, we would be like a slightly more advanced animals. I dunno about you, but I don't want to live by logic without emotion.

[QUOTE=davidofmk771;21116046]These men were troubled. I am not saying black people are inferior. They have survived with no help for centuries. I am not saying jews are inferior, they have survived for centuries. I am not saying people are bad because of something they can't control, I am saying that we need to stop wasting so much so that a select few can live. Your argument is full of logical fallacy's. Godwin's Law is being broken countless times. You are saying that natural mutation is a reason to help these people. But it isn't. Natural or not, they still would not survive if our world was instilled with logical laws were enforced. Not laws based on emotion, or religion, but cold, hard, logic.[/QUOTE] So that makes it ok to kill people like my brother?

[QUOTE=Xionasis;21116058]The way you worded that made it seem like you assume that everyone, that isn't disabled, smokes pot.[/QUOTE] No not everyone, but we do a lot of stuff that aren't needed to "advance our race"

[QUOTE=johanz;21116071]Emotions is what makes us human. If we were living by logic, we would be like a slightly more advanced animals. I dunno about you, but I don't want to live by logic without emotion.[/QUOTE] Actually, logic and the appreciation of arts is what makes us human.

[QUOTE=BrainDeath;21116074]So that makes it ok to kill people like my brother?[/QUOTE] Yes, otherwise he stops advancing of our master race.

[QUOTE=johanz;21116035]Race advancing is really dumb thing. We are advanced enough and disabled people don't stop anyone from advancing. If you want to advance so much, you should also kill/deal with africa and their hunger, china and their overpopulation and so on. What are YOU doing to advance our race? Smoking pot doesn't help.[/QUOTE] China is already dealing with their overpopulation, Africa will require nothing short of drastic military intervention. Race advancing isn't only about advancing it's also the fact that it would help bring the numbers if severe disabled people down, not because HURR WE KILLIN DEM but because we would be reducing the spread of these diseases through our gene pool by not allowing them to be bred into it, and I'm sorry if you are to emotional to accept this but it will happen, not now, but it will happen.

[QUOTE=johanz;21116077]No not everyone, but we do a lot of stuff that aren't needed to "advance our race"[/QUOTE] I didn't say that is what you meant, I just said that is the way it sounded.

[QUOTE=Xionasis;21116078]Actually, logic and the appreciation of arts is what makes us human.[/QUOTE] And emotion makes us inhuman? If there is no emotion, there can't be art since it's based on emotion.

David you have mis-intepreted so many issues here i cant be bothered coming back. Infact just perma-ban me. I thought i'd met some thick pseudo-ideological fucks in my time but you cunts take the biscuit. PERMABAN HERE PLEASE DING DING !!! Its been fun.

[QUOTE=Xionasis;21116087]I didn't say that is what you meant, I just said that is the way it sounded.[/QUOTE] English isn't my primary, it's my 3rd actually, so I might have worded it wrong, sorry.

[QUOTE=johanz;21116079]Yes, otherwise he stops advancing of our master race.[/QUOTE] Another HURR WE WILL KILL THEM post. Prevention is not the same as killing.

[QUOTE=johanz;21116089]And emotion makes us inhuman? If there is no emotion, there can't be art since it's based on emotion.[/QUOTE] Not everything is black and whites. Just because something isn't what makes us human, doesn't mean it makes us inhumane.

[QUOTE=BykeRyder;21116093]David you have mis-intepreted so many issues here i cant be bothered coming back. Infact just perma-ban me. I thought i'd met some thick pseudo-ideological fucks in my time but you cunts take the biscuit. PERMABAN HERE PLEASE DING DING !!! Its been fun.[/QUOTE] He hasn't misinterpreted anything, it's you allowing your emotions to cloud your reasoning and logic.

[QUOTE=johanz;21116096]English isn't my primary, it's my 3rd actually, so I might have worded it wrong, sorry.[/QUOTE] English IS my primary and I still goof up sometimes, it is completely understandable. Hence why I didn't take what you said as what you meant.

[QUOTE=Incognito;21116098]Another HURR WE WILL KILL THEM post. Prevention is not the same as killing.[/QUOTE] What? I am against killing. Especially for a stupid reason like "advancing our race" That's just dumb. [QUOTE=Xionasis;21116105]Not everything is black and whites. Just because something isn't what makes us human, doesn't mean it makes us inhumane.[/QUOTE] Even animals have emotions and care. Only reason they leave weaker ones to die is because they can't take care of them. We, as humans, can do that.

[QUOTE=johanz;21116130] Even animals have emotions and care. Only reason they leave weaker ones to die is because they can't take care of them. We, as humans, can do that.[/QUOTE] You just, indirectly, argued against your own point. You said emotion is what makes us human, and then go full swing in the opposite direction and say that animals are capable of emotion.

[QUOTE=BrainDeath;21116074]So that makes it ok to kill people like my brother?[/QUOTE] Kill? I din't say kill. If they are severely disabled at birth, they are probably not fit for life. They should not be spent on so much. They should be euthanised. A life is a life. It isn't some magical soul or something. it is a bunch of electric shocks. [QUOTE=johanz;21116071]Emotions is what makes us human. If we were living by logic, we would be like a slightly more advanced animals. I dunno about you, but I don't want to live by logic without emotion.[/QUOTE] I didn't say throw away emotion, I am saying that as a human, you shouldn't put it ahead of logic. Logic makes us human. Animals have emotions too. But they are not intelligent. With no logic, we would be animals.

I must say physical diseases must really suck, since there's no way to hide it. It took me a while to learn to live with my autism, I've been pretty depressed when I was younger. I'm happy I can hide my autism. But sometimes.. [IMG]http://filebox.me/files/11cre51bi_Pringles.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=davidofmk771;21116151]Kill? I din't say kill. If they are severely disabled at birth, they are probably not fit for life. They should not be spent on so much. They should be euthanised. A life is a life. It isn't some magical soul or something. it is a bunch of electric shocks. I didn't say throw away emotion, I am saying that as a human, you shouldn't put it ahead of logic. Logic makes us human. Animals have emotions too. But they are not intelligent. With no logic, we would be animals.[/QUOTE] So, once you have your master race, then what?

[QUOTE=johanz;21116130]What? I am against killing. Especially for a stupid reason like "advancing our race" That's just dumb. Even animals have emotions and care. Only reason they leave weaker ones to die is because they can't take care of them. We, as humans, can do that.[/QUOTE] No one has said that we should kill people that suffer from this, what we, or at least I have said though is to let evolution take its course mainly by intervening and preventing people like this from continually breeding, or people prone to spreading these diseases.

[QUOTE=Xionasis;21116150]You just, indirectly, argued against your own point. You said emotion is what makes us human, and then go full swing in the opposite direction and say that animals are capable of emotion.[/QUOTE] Shit, I meant emotion and intellect. [QUOTE=davidofmk771;21116151] I didn't say throw away emotion, I am saying that as a human, you shouldn't put it ahead of logic. Logic makes us human. Animals have emotions too. But they are not intelligent. With no logic, we would be animals.[/QUOTE] How are disabled people slowing our race advancement compared to poor countries like china and africa? To advance a race, we need perfect society. In this world it's not possible to achieve. Otherwise we would have to kill everyone who's opinion is different. Advancing our race at a steady rate is like achieving world peace.

[QUOTE=BrainDeath;21116197]So, once you have your master race, then what?[/QUOTE] There will be less people that have to deal with a shitty life due to diseases and we would also be eliminated a lot of diseases.

[QUOTE=Incognito;21116201]No one has said that we should kill people that suffer from this, what we, or at least I have said though is to let evolution take its course mainly by intervening and preventing people like this from continually breeding, or people prone to spreading these diseases.[/QUOTE] Yeah, preventing it from spreading, I agree on that.

[QUOTE=johanz;21116207]Shit, I meant emotion and intellect. How are disabled people slowing our race advancement compared to poor countries like china and africa? To advance a race, we need perfect society. In this world it's not possible to achieve. Otherwise we would have to kill everyone who's opinion is different. Advancing our race at a steady rate is like achieving world peace.[/QUOTE] Difference is that African can become and contributing factor to the human race, people bound to wheelchairs that can't communicate or even think properly will not.

[QUOTE=Incognito;21116201]No one has said that we should kill people that suffer from this, what we, or at least I have said though is to let evolution take its course mainly by intervening and preventing people like this from continually breeding, or people prone to spreading these diseases.[/QUOTE] We don't need any specialist intervention from people like you, who has sex with a severly disabled person anyway?

[QUOTE=BrainDeath;21116197]So, once you have your master race, then what?[/QUOTE] Again with the Godwin's Law. It is not a master race. It is humanity. It is a little something we call Darwinism. Survival of the fittest. You cannot throw that out of the window, not for anyone.

Well, I think I am going to call it a night. Hopefully this will have stayed somewhat civil in the time I am gone.