• Post Your Guns V3. Ak's and M4's as usual edition
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I'd imagine the local fields around here would be at least 75% Flecktarn with G36s because the largest team around here is a milsim team that does Bundeswehr impressions.
[QUOTE=deathmog;32085206]Pictures?[/QUOTE] oops misposted. M67 webbing. [url]http://www.olive-drab.com/od_soldiers_gear_vietnam_webgear.php[/url] M61 was a special USMC webbing thats superduper rare
[QUOTE=deathmog;32085138]No ALICE for you, M1956 for you.[/QUOTE] But isn't an m1956 pistol belt an ALICE system?
ALICE belt [img]http://www.prc68.com/I/Images/ALICE_Belt_pls.jpg[/img] M56 belt [img]http://images.nitrosell.com/product_images/5/1075/V1000800030.JPG[/img]
Are the two compatible with the same pouches, etc?
The M1956 belt doesn't like my ALICE pouches, I find, it's thinner, or at least not as stiff as the ALICE belt, so my ALICE pouches would slide around a lot.
M56 is compatible with ALICE belts, but ALICE is veryvery loose on M56 belts. And M56 suspenders hate ALICE belts. The belt is too thick to get the suspender's hook onto.
I thought the m56 were alice. Huh. So what can and can't i use on them?
Everything M56 works on ALICE, except suspenders. Nothing ALICE fits well on M56, besides suspenders.
So i have to find designated m56 gear.
If any of you ever looked into engineering, machining, or mechanical engineering at all, you wouldn't be rating AKs and ARs completely by how they perform in battle. My personal experience from shooting both AK and AR type rifles lead me to lean a little more on the AR side of the fence. Don't get me wrong, the Kalashnikov's a great weapon. But if I do say so myself, I believe the aspect it beats the AR in is not really reliability on the battle, but its production rating. AKs are damn simple to build. ARs aren't much more complicated to tell you the truth, but the AK's simplicity stands out. The AR platform, on the other hand is a much more practical weapon. It's reasonably modular, easily modified, and has three basic variants. The AR-15 is your standard assault rifle, everybody and their mother knows the story behind this weapon. The AR-10 is the 7.62x51 sniper rifle, and the AR-18 was the weapon that influenced some very successful designs from other nations, notably the G36 and the T91. The early M16 and the A1 were so prone to jamming because the weapon was firing rounds packed with ball powder, which left residue and led to fouling. Stoner had designed the weapon for use with stick powder, which it uses now. And it hasn't been as jammy as you guys would think in recent years. Myself personally, I prefer the AR platform over the AK platform. Sons of Guns actually wasn't wrong in their little "AK-47 Sniper Rifle" idea, and though stupid, it really officially hadn't been dun b'fore. The SVD isn't an AK variant. Now, I know a lot of people here on Facepunch are AK fanboys who've spent immense amount of money on their AK type rifles and Russian/Slavic loadouts. So it's completely understandable if you guys disagree with me, since I'd be pretty ticked off if someone bashed what I bought with my life's savings, so.
[QUOTE=TaiwanesePrick;32092984]If any of you ever looked into engineering, machining, or mechanical engineering at all, you wouldn't be rating AKs and ARs completely by how they perform in battle. My personal experience from shooting both AK and AR type rifles lead me to lean a little more on the AR side of the fence. Don't get me wrong, the Kalashnikov's a great weapon. But if I do say so myself, I believe the aspect it beats the AR in is not really reliability on the battle, but its production rating. AKs are damn simple to build. ARs aren't much more complicated to tell you the truth, but the AK's simplicity stands out. The AR platform, on the other hand is a much more practical weapon. It's reasonable modular, easily modified, and has three basic variants. The AR-15 is your standard assault rifle, everybody and their mother knows the story behind this weapon. The AR-10 is the 7.62x51 sniper rifle, and the AR-18 was the weapon that influenced some very successful designs from other nations, notably the G36 and the T91. The early M16 and the A1 were so prone to jamming because the weapon was firing rounds packed with ball powder, which left residue and led to fouling. Stoner had designed the weapon for use with stick powder, which it uses now. And it hasn't been as jammy as you guys would think in recent years. Myself personally, I prefer the AR platform over the AK platform. Sons of Guns actually wasn't wrong in their little "AK-47 Sniper Rifle" idea, and though stupid, it really officially hadn't been dun b'fore. The SVD isn't an AK variant. Now, I know a lot of people here on Facepunch are AK fanboys who've spent immense amount of money on their AK type rifles and Russian/Slavic loadouts. So it's completely understandable if you guys disagree with me, since I'd be pretty ticked off if someone bashed what I bought with my life's savings, so.[/QUOTE] I dont know if you are TRYING to start an argument or what, but... AFAIK, most pople here dislike the M4 because they think its either too damn common or just ugly. Not due to any real life reasons. [quote] Sons of Guns actually wasn't wrong in their little "AK-47 Sniper Rifle" idea, and though stupid, it really officially hadn't been dun b'fore. [/quote] Here, have a tabuk: [img]http://pictures.gunauction.com/6728192500/57b592bb11bb46562407e9c586bf6ac6.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;32093111] AFAIK, most pople here dislike the M4 because they think its either too damn common or just ugly. Not due to any real life reasons. [/QUOTE] This is pretty much why, we're airsoft hipsters. Although I never really did think my M16 was very comfortable to hold for an extended period of time.
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;32093185]This is pretty much why, we're airsoft hipsters. Although I never really did think my M16 was very comfortable to hold for an extended period of time.[/QUOTE] But AKs are more common than M4s :quagmire:
[QUOTE=TaiwanesePrick;32093222]But AKs are more common than M4s :quagmire:[/QUOTE] wat Where the hell do you play that this is the case?
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;32093240]wat Where the hell do you play that this is the case?[/QUOTE] Somalia.
Nostalgic pictures: [IMG]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h4/timebmb757/P1000958.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h4/timebmb757/P1000953.jpg[/IMG] Every day I regret selling this thing :frown:
[QUOTE=TaiwanesePrick;32093252]Somalia.[/QUOTE] He meant in airsoft M4s are more common than AKs. Honestly I'd rather have an AK74 or one of the other 5.45mm variants of the AK over the M4/M16. The M4/M16 still does jam alot, especially in the desert environments our troops are deployed, due to it's extremely tight tolerances, and due to its direct impingement system. I've taken apart an AR15 before, and it is Much more complicated than the AK. There's like a million little springs inside the damn thing. As far as the AK v. AR argument, in my opinion, the 5.45 and 5.56(commercial civilian variants) variants of the AK take virtually everything that's loved about the AR and puts it in an AK platform
Or you could also have the AK-107 or AEK-971 and have all the reliability of the AK with super accuracy and little to no recoil.
[QUOTE=felix the cat;32093405] The M4/M16 still does jam alot, especially in the desert environments our troops are deployed, due to it's extremely tight tolerances, and due to its direct impingement system. [/QUOTE] To be fair, as long as its kept reasonably clean, an AR will run just as reliably as an AK.
But I mean, try keeping your weapon clean in a desert environment. The M16's downfall is its extremely tight tolerances, it can't get as dirty as other weapons without malfunctioning. Don't get me wrong, the M16 is a fantastic weapon in it's current form, but there's still room for improvement
My bro has an M95 belt and it has a canteen and a glass case on it. It doesn't have any suspenders though so its very hard to wear. Help.
My friend just got back from training in the reserves and he said his and others C7's jammed quite alot.
[QUOTE=Stupideye;32094440]My friend just got back from training in the reserves and he said his and others C7's jammed quite alot.[/QUOTE] Keep in mind they're probably weapons that have been in training circulation for 10+ years.
I have fired a few ARs and I gotta say they are extremely comfortable weapons. I understand the hipster AK bias on here, but if my life were on the line, I would trust it to an AR-type weapon.
I like the feel of ARs, but the mechanism still leaves something to be desired.
All this talk of AR jamming reminds me of the good days of gaming with AA2: whenever you actually need to use your weapon, it will jam.
God when doing CQB in AA3 that sucked ass.
I'll probably pick a kalashnikov over an AR because I'll probably be too lazy to clean my weapons :v: being really honest there :v:
I'll pick an l96 so i can quickscope with it. Like in black ops
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