So now that I have seen the latest Agents of SHIELD episode, I am starting to think that Civil War will be started over whether or not to index [sp]the recently discovered Inhumans, and powered people in general. It seems to be a fight about registration already, it could carry over.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;47666996]Because the MCU is one big, consistent universe doesn't mean all the main characters have to constantly interact with each other. Otherwise every single film would just be the hulk showing up and wrecking shit for two hours because everyone would ask for his help.[/QUOTE]
Then they shouldn't have written it into such a giant ultimatum like killing half the people on earth and making the rest into Nazis. I mean in the scope of things, Killian succeeding in making his flaming terrorist army world have been bad, but not as bad as that. Abomination beating hulk and rampaging around freely would have been bad, but not as bad as that.
I can understand nobody helping out during Thor 2, because it was across the Atlantic, and there was a relatively small time in between shit hitting the fan and the plot being over. Cap 2 pretty much happened in starks backyard, and spanned quite a while longer.
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Holy shit. No destruction in the background? No love interest in arms? No shit-tier blue/green colour palette?
What the fuck Marvel? At least you stay true to yourselves by having everyone looking into different directions.
I remember when Phase 2 started, there was some interview that addressed why the Avengers weren't helping out, and their plan was that things would go down so fast, that they wouldn't have time to call in the reinforcements. That was the plan, anyway, though I don't know how well they pulled that off.
Iron Man 3 is the worst offender, if only because the high-profile nature of the ending. I can see stubborn Tony Stark refusing to call for help. But also it takes Stark out of the equation for a little while, as he blew up all his suits before having major surgery. Why he's right back to having suits in AoU, I'd really like to know.
Thor 2 makes more sense, as the ending did happen very quickly.
Cap 2 is a bit of a stretch. To the rest of the Avengers, Nick Fury dying would be a big deal, but there was nothing actionable until the helicarriers started blowing each other out of the sky. As far as the rest of the world knew, everything was cool with SHIELD until Cap and Widow blew it wide open at the end. OF course, why they didn't call for help from the Avengers, the few people outside of SHIELD they could surely trust, I have no idea.
Also, recall in Avengers, Iron Man showed up in Germany to fight Loki pretty much of his own volition, with very little lead in time. If he rebuilt his suits in any kind of timely manner before AoU, he could've been on hand to help with Thor and Cap in no time.
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I feel like I've seen this exact same poster but with Iron Man. Same pose and everything.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;47670980]I feel like I've seen this exact same poster but with Iron Man. Same pose and everything.[/QUOTE]
not like there's anything "new" in movie marketing
[t]http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.hitfix.com/assets/883/CaptainAmericaExclusivePoster.jpg[/t]
Why are Marvel able to pull off great looking teaser posters.
[t]http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/uploads/thor pos.jpg[/t][t]http://media.aintitcool.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/561/original/captainamericaposter2.jpg?1296843474[/t][t]http://whennerdsattack.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Iron-Man-3-Teaser-Poster.jpg[/t][t]http://www.movienewz.com/img/gallery/captain-america-2/posters/captain_america_winter_soldier_character_poster_1.jpg[/t][t]http://www.my-sf.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Thor-the-Dark-World-poster.jpg[/t][t]http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-Poster-High-Res.jpg[/t][t]http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/marvelcinematicuniverse/images/2/2d/Ant-Man_Teaser_Poster.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150106182026[/t]
And when it comes to theatrical posters everything goes to shit.
[t]http://cache.reelz.com/assets/content/photos/53632.jpg[/t][t]http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww40/aonjung2009/Pirnt Matter 3 2012/AVENGERS-POSTER-.jpg[/t][t]http://i.movie.as/p/125172.jpg[/t][t]http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/imglib/320/0/1/Capt2-Payoff-1-Sht-v8-Lg-c563d.jpg[/t][t]https://cdn.amctheatres.com/Media/Default/BlogPost/movie-news/thor 2 poster.jpg[/t][t]http://1.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/26/95/18b149286ca6f2920e017bd5d2ffcbf5.jpg[/t][t]http://www.moviepilot.de/files/images/gallery/19533/11241553/Marvels_The_Avengers_2_Age_of_Ultron_Poster_size_600.jpg[/t]
(hopefully it's not too much for others to load)
[QUOTE=Antimuffin;47671082]Why are Marvel able to pull off great looking teaser posters.
[t]http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/uploads/thor%20pos.jpg[/t][t]http://media.aintitcool.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/561/original/captainamericaposter2.jpg?1296843474[/t][t]http://whennerdsattack.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Iron-Man-3-Teaser-Poster.jpg[/t][t]http://www.movienewz.com/img/gallery/captain-america-2/posters/captain_america_winter_soldier_character_poster_1.jpg[/t][t]http://www.my-sf.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Thor-the-Dark-World-poster.jpg[/t][t]http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-Poster-High-Res.jpg[/t][t]http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/marvelcinematicuniverse/images/2/2d/Ant-Man_Teaser_Poster.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150106182026[/t]
And when it comes to theatrical posters everything goes to shit.
[t]http://www.impawards.com/2010/posters/iron_man_two_ver6.jpg[/t][t]http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww40/aonjung2009/Pirnt%20Matter%203%202012/AVENGERS-POSTER-.jpg[/t][t]http://i.movie.as/p/125172.jpg[/t][t]http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/imglib/320/0/1/Capt2-Payoff-1-Sht-v8-Lg-c563d.jpg[/t][t]http://www.impawards.com/2013/posters/thor_the_dark_world_ver2.jpg[/t][t]http://1.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/26/95/18b149286ca6f2920e017bd5d2ffcbf5.jpg[/t][t]http://www.moviepilot.de/files/images/gallery/19533/11241553/Marvels_The_Avengers_2_Age_of_Ultron_Poster_size_600.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Because marketing happens. And if there's one thing that marketing is good at, it's not their jobs.
[QUOTE=Antimuffin;47671082]Why are Marvel able to pull off great looking teaser posters.
And when it comes to theatrical posters everything goes to shit.
(hopefully it's not too much for others to load)[/QUOTE]
Because you need black action guy and arrow man in the poster
apparently
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maybe the idea is to show everyone important in the film? I guess? So that it's easier to understand it before you get into it?
Better not quote, because it's huge.
[QUOTE=J!NX;47671125]
maybe the idea is to show everyone important in the film? I guess? So that it's easier to understand it before you get into it?[/QUOTE]
Yeah I get that, but they all look the same and miss a key visual to make it stand out.
[QUOTE=J!NX;47671125]Because you need black action guy and arrow man in the poster
apparently
[editline]6th May 2015[/editline]
maybe the idea is to show everyone important in the film? I guess? So that it's easier to understand it before you get into it?[/QUOTE]
considering contracts include talent placement on theatrical posters, not teasers
because photoshop is the new struzan
[QUOTE=Pax;47670908]I remember when Phase 2 started, there was some interview that addressed why the Avengers weren't helping out, and their plan was that things would go down so fast, that they wouldn't have time to call in the reinforcements. That was the plan, anyway, though I don't know how well they pulled that off.
Iron Man 3 is the worst offender, if only because the high-profile nature of the ending. I can see stubborn Tony Stark refusing to call for help. But also it takes Stark out of the equation for a little while, as he blew up all his suits before having major surgery. Why he's right back to having suits in AoU, I'd really like to know.
Thor 2 makes more sense, as the ending did happen very quickly.
Cap 2 is a bit of a stretch. To the rest of the Avengers, Nick Fury dying would be a big deal, but there was nothing actionable until the helicarriers started blowing each other out of the sky. As far as the rest of the world knew, everything was cool with SHIELD until Cap and Widow blew it wide open at the end. OF course, why they didn't call for help from the Avengers, the few people outside of SHIELD they could surely trust, I have no idea.
Also, recall in Avengers, Iron Man showed up in Germany to fight Loki pretty much of his own volition, with very little lead in time. If he rebuilt his suits in any kind of timely manner before AoU, he could've been on hand to help with Thor and Cap in no time.[/QUOTE]
With all the snooping around stark does, I find it hard to believe he or jarvis didn't notice anything about fury getting ambushed by tons of fake cops and a super soldier in the middle of DC, caps fight and escape from shield ending with a wrecked hovercraft thing, fury getting assassinated, shield blowing up an old abandoned army base for no reason, the manhunt for cap, or the final assault and destruction of shield. And even if he just noticed it when the helicarriers took off, that whole sequence was somewhat short, but stark can do quick responses pretty well.
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smart move mentioning guardians rather than one of the more standard films
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I'm very glad they went for "yeah we know he's called ant-man but look at this sweet-ass outfit".
[QUOTE=Pax;47670908]Iron Man 3 is the worst offender, if only because the high-profile nature of the ending. I can see stubborn Tony Stark refusing to call for help. But also it takes Stark out of the equation for a little while, as he blew up all his suits before having major surgery. Why he's right back to having suits in AoU, I'd really like to know.[/quote]
He built a new one.
[quote]Cap 2 is a bit of a stretch. To the rest of the Avengers, Nick Fury dying would be a big deal, but there was nothing actionable until the helicarriers started blowing each other out of the sky. As far as the rest of the world knew, everything was cool with SHIELD until Cap and Widow blew it wide open at the end. OF course, why they didn't call for help from the Avengers, the few people outside of SHIELD they could surely trust, I have no idea.[/quote]
Because of the massive spy network trying to track them down that would have noticed if they tried to contact the other Avengers?
[quote]Also, recall in Avengers, Iron Man showed up in Germany to fight Loki pretty much of his own volition, with very little lead in time. If he rebuilt his suits in any kind of timely manner before AoU, he could've been on hand to help with Thor and Cap in no time.[/QUOTE]
It would take Iron Man roughly an hour to get to DC, whilst the finale of Winter Soldier is around fifteen minutes, half an hour max.
Bullshit it would take an hour to go from NYC to DC in a supersonic robot suit.
pretty sure it takes him an hour to get to afghanistan
dc would be like 5 minutes tops
but i'm also sure that by the time winter soldier rolls around, tony doesn't have any suits and is busy plowing pepper.
like, let's try a timeline thing here based on release. avengers is spring 2012. thor is fall 2013 and is like a weekend excursion at best. iron man 3 is christmas 2013. winter soldier is 4-5 months after that, where tony is suit-free. plus tony is one of the targets on the helicarrier's list.
[QUOTE=Birdman101;47671526]Bullshit it would take an hour to go from NYC to DC in a supersonic robot suit.[/QUOTE]
My numbers were wrong but it doesn't change that the times don't match: from the helicarriers opening fire on each other to crashing was minutes. If we assume Iron Man sets off as soon as the first gun goes off, (not accounting for the time it takes for him to hear about it, suiting up and accelerating to top speed, or the fact that it's very dangerous to go near supersonic speeds near populated areas), Iron Man's top speed is officially mach 1.2, or 960 mph, and Manhattan to the Triskelion is 235 miles, so if he somehow started at top speed and never had to deccelerate, that's still a quarter of an hour, far more than the time it takes for the helicarriers to crash.
AoU spoilers [sp]When Thor smashes the sky island, he plummets into the sea lifeless.
Then it just cuts to happy ending, what the hell[/sp]
[QUOTE=Pops;47671589]pretty sure it takes him an hour to get to afghanistan
dc would be like 5 minutes tops[/QUOTE]
Bullshit it took him an hour, it took him about six to go from Malibu to Tennessee.
Plus he left Afghanistan in the afternoon and got back to Malibu in the evening, so definitely not an hour.
That's all true, but there were plenty of events before the helicarriers taking off that might raise a "something sinister is happening" flag. Gun battles through downtown DC arent exactly commonplace.
Me being dumb
[QUOTE=Birdman101;47671717]That's all true, but there were plenty of events before the helicarriers taking off that might raise a "something sinister is happening" flag. Gun battles through downtown DC arent exactly commonplace.[/QUOTE]
They're not commonplace in most places, but Tony Stark doesn't get off his arse and investigate everyone of them, what makes these ones any different?
I dunno, cause these ones involved the director of sheild getting ambushed by a super soldier before his assassination, and cap trading blows with the winter soldier.
[QUOTE=Birdman101;47671785]I dunno, cause these ones involved the director of sheild getting ambushed by a super soldier before his assassination, and cap trading blows with the winter soldier.[/QUOTE]
You think SHIELD/HYDRA would let the world know who was involved? Cap didn't know, Widow didn't know, most of SHIELD didn't know that Fury was the one who was attacked. SHIELD is a massive organisation with unlimited resources whose job it is to control the flow of information, if they don't want people to know, they won't.
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[URL="https://instagram.com/p/2Vyp-NjpuX/"]More Civil War concept art: Cap's uniform[/URL]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/a5zXFwl.png[/IMG]
and now the better question is
was any of this being reported on tv or anything? we know the shield leak was televised at a summit meeting but what about the carriers or the street stuff?
ah, beat me to it.
Stark used Jarvis to hack into shield in about 3 minutes flat in the first avengers movie. I have no reason to believe he couldn't do it again.
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