[QUOTE=AaronM202;48291445]Thor 1, the big blonde hammer down mother fucker himself explicitly says "Where I come from, magic and science are one in the same" this states that his people know explicitly the difference between the do, and that they use both, so they use both.
Also, His hammer is fucking magic, and Loki's tricks are magic, you honestly cant argue against that. Theres no science that will let you whisper into a hammer and then all that hammer deems worthy to be able to pick it up.[/QUOTE]Ok you just proved my point by quoting "Where I come from, magic and science are one in the same" hence Magic is a term for a more advanced form of science. Also yeah there is no science that would allow Oden to speak to Mjolnir or determine who was worthy, don't be ridiculous, it's a just technology by a more advanced race, I could speculate how it works but I don't want to make shit up. I mean honestly, they have scientists in the Thor movies who manipulate the "Magic" with scientific instruments.
[QUOTE=RoboChimp;48291531]Ok you just proved my point by quoting "Where I come from, magic and science are one in the same" hence Magic is a term for a more advanced form of science. Also yeah there is no science that would allow Oden to speak to Mjolnir or determine who was worthy, don't be ridiculous, it's a just technology by a more advanced race, I could speculate how it works but I don't want to make shit up. I mean honestly, they have scientists in the Thor movies who manipulate the "Magic" with scientific instruments.[/QUOTE]
He says that, which explicitly shows that Asgardians known the difference between the two, [b]and they still use the term MAGIC later.[/b]
What part of that is hard to understand?
Oh, btw, theres no technology that'd let you completely fucking break the laws of physics unless you were god.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;48291541]He says that, which explicitly shows that Asgardians known the difference between the two, [b]and they still use the term MAGIC later.[/b]
What part of that is hard to understand?
Oh, btw, theres no technology that'd let you completely fucking break the laws of physics unless you were god.[/QUOTE]No you can't break the laws of physics in a universe where aliens can travel beyond the speed of light, a German scientist can store his entire brain on 9GB of tape drives and a man can fly around in a suit making sharp turns at supersonic speeds without the g-forces killing him.
Look I can see this is going no where so, whatever. The writers couldn't think of an explanation so it was "Magic", like the Arc Reactor, the Super Soldier Serum, Pym Particles and the fact that the Helicarrier can get off the ground at all, that's all magic too. :hurr:
[QUOTE=RoboChimp;48291610]No you can't break the laws of physics in a universe where aliens can't travel beyond the speed of light[/QUOTE]
Whats this supposed to mean.
Because you're proving my point.
[QUOTE=RoboChimp;48291610]Look I can see this is going no where so, whatever. The writers couldn't think of an explanation so it was "Magic", like the Arc Reactor, the Super Soldier Serum, Pym Particles and the fact that the Helicarrier can get off the ground at all, that's all magic too. :hurr:[/QUOTE]
the Arc Reactor is explicitly based on a magical artifact.
The Super Soldier Serum doesnt work without the vita-rays chamber.
Pym Particles are really fucking weird and should be considered magic with how much they fuck with the laws of physics, just think "pocket dimension" and you'll be fine.
The helicarrier could work, i'd imagine, if done properly, but nobody would ever fucking try something that stupid in real life.
Anyone reckon Thanos' lackeys will show up soon? Corvus, Proxima etc?
the whole "what you call science, we call magic" thing with thor isn't meant to be taken literally
[QUOTE=AaronM202;48291652]Whats this supposed to mean.
Because you're proving my point.
the Arc Reactor is explicitly based on a magical artifact.
The Super Soldier Serum doesnt work without the vita-rays chamber.
Pym Particles are really fucking weird and should be considered magic with how much they fuck with the laws of physics, just think "pocket dimension" and you'll be fine.
The helicarrier could work, i'd imagine, if done properly, but nobody would ever fucking try something that stupid in real life.[/QUOTE]The answer is yes, ok whatever...
I could make arguements for all those things, but this is turning the thread to shit, so ok everything is magic, not sci-fi ,including the hellicarrier which has been proven to not be possible. You win good night.
[QUOTE=RoboChimp;48291719]The answer is yes, ok whatever...
I could make arguements for all those things, but this is turning the thread to shit, so ok everything is magic, not sci-fi ,including the hellicarrier which has been proven to not be possible. You win good night.[/QUOTE]
Boy you sure didnt read my post.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;48291724]Boy you sure didnt read my post.[/QUOTE]Yeah that was the point where I stopped caring. But don't worry; you won.
[QUOTE=RoboChimp;48291742]Yeah that was the point where I stopped caring. But don't worry; you won.[/QUOTE]
Why do you always do this?
In these movie threads, you always say some shit, and keep going on and on and on when people point out you're wrong, then get fed up and leave and dont accept it.
Calm down children :v:
[QUOTE=AaronM202;48291775]Why do you always do this?
In these movie threads, you always say some shit, and keep going on and on and on when people point out you're wrong, then get fed up and leave and dont accept it.[/QUOTE]
RoboChimp arguments are part of the scenery by now.
I think that the magic/science thing from Thor 1 is that he meant to say that in Asgard, magic IS their science.
it was just a cool quote to add on to the sense of realism already surrounding the marvel universe. hulk's sole existence breaks the most basic laws of physics, but he's still based entirely around science. stark's technology would be very hard (if not impossible) to replicate in the next 100 years, but it's still technology.
same thing with thor, except he's the most "out there" hero we've had yet, so there's not much you can do to make him a bit more down-to-earth. like i said, that statement isn't supposed to be taken literally and it definitely doesn't deserve that much importance, it is, above all, meant to set the tone so it's not too far off compared to their other flicks, and give a [I]slightly[/I] more realistic vibe to thor.
Came back from Ant-Man, I loved it and thought it was better and less-convoluted then the Avengers 2
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;48294988]it was just a cool quote to add on to the sense of realism already surrounding the marvel universe. hulk's sole existence breaks the most basic laws of physics, but he's still based entirely around science. stark's technology would be very hard (if not impossible) to replicate in the next 100 years, but it's still technology.
same thing with thor, except he's the most "out there" hero we've had yet, so there's not much you can do to make him a bit more down-to-earth. like i said, that statement isn't supposed to be taken literally and it definitely doesn't deserve that much importance, it is, above all, meant to set the tone so it's not too far off compared to their other flicks, and give a [I]slightly[/I] more realistic vibe to thor.[/QUOTE]
Doesnt Hulk like, convert radiation into mass or something.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;48295249]Doesnt Hulk like, convert radiation into mass or something.[/QUOTE]
that almost makes sense except it doesn't
but seriously though, it's actually a pretty good (if schlocky) explanation, didn't know that
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;48295297]that almost makes sense except it doesn't
but seriously though, it's actually a pretty good (if schlocky) explanation, didn't know that[/QUOTE]
Im not too well versed in the whole science thing, but i feel like i remember reading about that (i know thats the canon explanation, anyway) and it mentioned some real world theory on how energy could be converted into matter and vice versa.
I dont remember where though.
Gonna watch Ant-Man tomorrow.
[url=http://heroichollywood.com/home-1/2015/7/23/marvels-studios-first-minstrel-show-michael-penas-luis-in-ant-man]Also apparently according to some guy Michael Peña's character is a harmful and negative Latino stereotype.[/url]
[QUOTE=Zuimzado;48296005]Gonna watch Ant-Man tomorrow.
[url=http://heroichollywood.com/home-1/2015/7/23/marvels-studios-first-minstrel-show-michael-penas-luis-in-ant-man]Also apparently according to some guy Michael Peña's character is a harmful and negative Latino stereotype.[/url][/QUOTE]
I also saw something on Facebook the other day that said Hope's role in Ant-Man was sexist because Hank was favoring Scott to become Ant-Man instead of her.
[QUOTE=Zuimzado;48296005]Gonna watch Ant-Man tomorrow.
[url=http://heroichollywood.com/home-1/2015/7/23/marvels-studios-first-minstrel-show-michael-penas-luis-in-ant-man]Also apparently according to some guy Michael Peña's character is a harmful and negative Latino stereotype.[/url][/QUOTE]
Uhm, I never saw any sign of that in the movie. I mean yeah he has like one Latino joke, but thats it [sp] I think it was the 'my father was deported' joke. [/sp]Oh well, anybody will look for ways to backlash nowadays.
[QUOTE=Zuimzado;48296005]Gonna watch Ant-Man tomorrow.
[url=http://heroichollywood.com/home-1/2015/7/23/marvels-studios-first-minstrel-show-michael-penas-luis-in-ant-man]Also apparently according to some guy Michael Peña's character is a harmful and negative Latino stereotype.[/url][/QUOTE]
lol who gives a fuck.
Annoying character anyway
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;48295297]that almost makes sense except it doesn't
but seriously though, it's actually a pretty good (if schlocky) explanation, didn't know that[/QUOTE]
As I recall, his extra mass when he becomes the Hulk comes from some pocket dimension or something.
While I enjoyed the MCU Thor Movies, I wish he was just a little bit more powerful, just a smidge.
Tbh
Captain America and Iron Man felt more powerful then Thor in Avengers 2
I guess he showed he was [sp]Durable? Didn't he stand in the middle of the island blowing up[/sp]?
[QUOTE=Zuimzado;48296005]Gonna watch Ant-Man tomorrow.
[url=http://heroichollywood.com/home-1/2015/7/23/marvels-studios-first-minstrel-show-michael-penas-luis-in-ant-man]Also apparently according to some guy Michael Peña's character is a harmful and negative Latino stereotype.[/url][/QUOTE]
[sp]He actually ends up getting most of the plot development done and is arguably the strongest guy in the film,[/sp] but he has an accent so of course he's stereotypical and insensitive :what:
Edit: how did I go that far without realizing I quoted the wrong guy?
[QUOTE=-Ben_Wolfe-;48296179]I also saw something on Facebook the other day that said Hope's role in Ant-Man was sexist because Hank was favoring Scott to become Ant-Man instead of her.[/QUOTE]
A feminist friend of mine wants to boycott Antman because ants in real life are ruled by a queen and male ants are used solely for reproduction then discarded. Logically, this means it should be Antwoman, not Antman.
I've got an Intel heat sink that looks a little bit like an Arc Reactor, so I might give building one a go. We'll see how that ends up.
Just re-saw Ant-Man, and, yeah, [sp]that's Janet's shadow in the Quantum Realm.[/sp]
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