[QUOTE=Dan2593;45805600]Apparently [sp]Banner and Widow[/sp] are love interests in Avengers 2 according to people who saw the preview.[/QUOTE]
Nah, just an alleged rumour from that is probably true now after the comic-con footage
[url]http://www.latino-review.com/news/exclusive-avengers-age-of-ultron-early-story-details-revealed[/url]
[QUOTE=Birdman101;45805672]The only problem I had with the winter soldier plot was why, when all this shit was going down, why didnt steve think [sp]"lets call up stark or stop by to tell him that sheild is actually nazis and the free world is ending."[/sp] I mean I know they have to keep stark out of it because its not an iron man movie, but they could have came up with a better excuse like "starks on vacation bear hunting" or some shit.[/QUOTE]
I think the directors said the timeline of The Winter Soldier is a few short days. So he couldn't really contact The Avengers as he was [sp]a fugitive running around DC[/sp]
Concerning Cap 3: [sp]Isn't the one SHIELD agent who's badly burned but still alive Cap's killer from the comics? The fact that they made a point to show him makes me think Steve Rogers will survive Age Of Ultron and get offed in Cap 3[/sp]
[QUOTE=Birdman101;45805672]The only problem I had with the winter soldier plot was why, when all this shit was going down, why didnt steve think [sp]"lets call up stark or stop by to tell him that sheild is actually nazis and the free world is ending."[/sp] I mean I know they have to keep stark out of it because its not an iron man movie, but they could have came up with a better excuse like "starks on vacation bear hunting" or some shit.[/QUOTE]
The problem is much, much bigger. Remember when in The Avengers [sp]Tony Stark did some techny-whiney stuff and hacked S.H.I.E.L.D. entire database? Wouldn't that make him at least aware of HYDRA's ongoing existance?[/sp]
[QUOTE=Flapjacks;45806200]I think the directors said the timeline of The Winter Soldier is a few short days. So he couldn't really contact The Avengers as he was [sp]a fugitive running around DC[/sp]
Concerning Cap 3: [sp]Isn't the one SHIELD agent who's badly burned but still alive Cap's killer from the comics? The fact that they made a point to show him makes me think Steve Rogers will survive Age Of Ultron and get offed in Cap 3[/sp][/QUOTE]
Captain America's [sp]killer in the comics is Crossbones, a henchman of the Red Skull. He doesn't quite kill him, but injures him badly and a brainwashed Agent 13 of SHIELD (and ex lover of Roger's) gives him the finishing blow. But he's not actually killed (as comic characters never are) but actually sent through the space-time continuum to relive his past and future while the Red Skull prepares to put his own mind in Roger's body[/sp]
This happens right after the Marvel Civil War in which Roger's side loses and he's arrested.
[editline]26th August 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Joz;45806283]The problem is much, much bigger. Remember when in The Avengers [sp]Tony Stark did some techny-whiney stuff and hacked S.H.I.E.L.D. entire database? Wouldn't that make him at least aware of HYDRA's ongoing existance?[/sp][/QUOTE]
He wasn't looking for HYDRA, he was looking for what Phase 2 was.
And there's a scene just prior to Fury coming clean about it showing that SHIELD knows there's someone hacking them and I would assume the put a stop to it.
Not to mention, if HYDRA can hide in SHIELD away from Nick Fucking Fury, then there's no way Stark is going to assume some outdated organization from the losing side of WWII is still around and kicking in there.
[QUOTE=Birdman101;45805672]The only problem I had with the winter soldier plot was why, when all this shit was going down, why didnt steve think [sp]"lets call up stark or stop by to tell him that sheild is actually nazis and the free world is ending."[/sp] I mean I know they have to keep stark out of it because its not an iron man movie, but they could have came up with a better excuse like "starks on vacation bear hunting" or some shit.[/QUOTE]
I got a good excuse Tony could use:
"I destroyed all my suits and removed the power source from my chest"
Plus Steve was told to trust nobody. He didn't trust Stark to begin with.
[QUOTE=Birdman101;45805672]The only problem I had with the winter soldier plot was why, when all this shit was going down, why didnt steve think [sp]"lets call up stark or stop by to tell him that sheild is actually nazis and the free world is ending."[/sp] I mean I know they have to keep stark out of it because its not an iron man movie, but they could have came up with a better excuse like "starks on vacation bear hunting" or some shit.[/QUOTE]
Well [I]technically[/I] all Phase 2 movies are taking place at the same time just like Phase One. So it's possible he's recuperating from the events of Iron Man 3.
[QUOTE=Joz;45806283]The problem is much, much bigger. Remember when in The Avengers [sp]Tony Stark did some techny-whiney stuff and hacked S.H.I.E.L.D. entire database? Wouldn't that make him at least aware of HYDRA's ongoing existance?[/sp][/QUOTE]
if [sp]fury himself didn't know[/sp], why would tony, since he only spent [sp]a few minutes looking through it (and even then, only for a specific project)?[/sp]
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;45806578]if [sp]fury himself didn't know[/sp], why would tony, since he only spent [sp]a few minutes looking through it (and even then, only for a specific project)?[/sp][/QUOTE]
Then we're breaking suspension of disbelief. How the hell [sp]Hydra was so well hidden that even Nick Fury never noticed it for all the years he was a director, despite the fact that there was plenty of Hydra agents working for him. Especially how higher rank officers instead of goodbye were saying "Heil Hydra", so it wasn't no tell secret. How Hydra was recruiting? Were they recruiting only fanatics that would for sure accept their terms or did they kill those who refused it? If the latter, how come nobody noticed sudden deaths of certain people. [/sp]
Don't get me started on "the one plan mastered for decades, so if something will go wrong we're fucked" because that's genre specific plotline.
[QUOTE=Joz;45806649]Especially how higher rank officers instead of goodbye were saying "Heil Hydra", so it wasn't no tell secret. How Hydra was recruiting? Were they recruiting only fanatics that would for sure accept their terms or did they kill those who refused it? If the latter, how come nobody noticed sudden deaths of certain people. [/sp][/QUOTE]
They didn't exactly go around saying [sp]Heil Hydra on the open whilst Nick Fury was strolling by and even doing a German salute to emphasize the point. Secrecy, that's how they remained hidden. Oh, this guy can be recruited, let's slowly lure them into our grasp. And if he rejects it, well, then he just got a relocation to a SHIELD HQ on the other side of the world.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Dan2593;45806397]I got a good excuse Tony could use:
"I destroyed all my suits and removed the power source from my chest"
Plus Steve was told to trust nobody. He didn't trust Stark to begin with.[/QUOTE]
oh damn forgot about the destroyed suits, youre right
[QUOTE=Joz;45806649]Then we're breaking suspension of disbelief. How the hell [sp]Hydra was so well hidden that even Nick Fury never noticed it for all the years he was a director, despite the fact that there was plenty of Hydra agents working for him. Especially how higher rank officers instead of goodbye were saying "Heil Hydra", so it wasn't no tell secret. How Hydra was recruiting? Were they recruiting only fanatics that would for sure accept their terms or did they kill those who refused it? If the latter, how come nobody noticed sudden deaths of certain people. [/sp]
Don't get me started on "the one plan mastered for decades, so if something will go wrong we're fucked" because that's genre specific plotline.[/QUOTE]
did you even watch the winter soldier
[QUOTE=Joz;45806649]Then we're breaking suspension of disbelief. How the hell [sp]Hydra was so well hidden that even Nick Fury never noticed it for all the years he was a director, despite the fact that there was plenty of Hydra agents working for him. Especially how higher rank officers instead of goodbye were saying "Heil Hydra", so it wasn't no tell secret. How Hydra was recruiting? Were they recruiting only fanatics that would for sure accept their terms or did they kill those who refused it? If the latter, how come nobody noticed sudden deaths of certain people. [/sp]
Don't get me started on "the one plan mastered for decades, so if something will go wrong we're fucked" because that's genre specific plotline.[/QUOTE]
Probably by [sp]slowly vetting people they think they could recruit before openly taking them in. Can spend 3-4 years exposing them slowly to Hydra ideology before bluntly going, "Well, you agreed with this this and that over the years. Did you know that's what Hydra believes? That's okay, we'll take you in". Not to mention those with ambition are easily seduced. A secret organization *within* a spy agency? I'm definitely joining. With this, you don't even have to kill many people who refuse if the selection process is near 100% functional. And those who do die, well, it's a spy agency. Missions go bad all the time.[/sp]
Still, the fact that S.H.I.E.L.D. didn't have internal affairs is baffling.
[QUOTE=Butthurter;45807752]then how did an agents of shield episode managed to situate thor2 events happening significantly longer beforehand from the hydra conundrum[/QUOTE]
because it's a TV show.
[QUOTE=Joz;45806649]Then we're breaking suspension of disbelief. How the hell [sp]Hydra was so well hidden that even Nick Fury never noticed it for all the years he was a director, despite the fact that there was plenty of Hydra agents working for him. Especially how higher rank officers instead of goodbye were saying "Heil Hydra", so it wasn't no tell secret. How Hydra was recruiting? Were they recruiting only fanatics that would for sure accept their terms or did they kill those who refused it? If the latter, how come nobody noticed sudden deaths of certain people. [/sp]
Don't get me started on "the one plan mastered for decades, so if something will go wrong we're fucked" because that's genre specific plotline.[/QUOTE]
[sp]Hyrdra is good at hiding. When people noticed they were killed- seemingly under unsuspicious circumstance. Look at Howard Stark. Nobody has once considered he was violently murdered by a defunct WW2 cult. Shield controlled secrets, Hydra made sure only the right secrets were heard[/sp]
[editline]26th August 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zuimzado;45807968]because it's a TV show.[/QUOTE]
No.. I think Agents of Shield implies that the films are a few months apart each. Probably the time between the release of each film.
Yeah, I've gotten the impression over the years that things are happening more or less in real-time in the MCU. People seems to talk about past events in the right number of years.
But sadly this means a lot of time gets skipped between our little windows into our heroes lives.
[QUOTE=Y U NO OBJECT;45809808][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bv6D6_WIIAACziS.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
that bottom left "alternate schematics" looks very ultron-ish
Yay for man/bug conversations.
[QUOTE=Joz;45807795]Still, the fact that S.H.I.E.L.D. didn't have internal affairs is baffling.[/QUOTE]
Okay, here's the end all argument: Alexander Pierce was [sp]a senior member of SHIELD. One of the top. And he was in HYDRA. So isn't obvious that reports of suspicion reaching his desk by IA would just get discarded? That he could easily hide HYDRA in plain sight just by ordering people not to look?[/sp]
Best blanket
[t]http://i.imgur.com/oXJgdtC.jpg[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/3lkk4Vw.jpg[/t]
needs moar doge
[URL="http://www.newsarama.com/21978-netflix-cco-says-daredevil-tv-series-will-go-darker-than-movie-costume-will-be-more-down-to-earth.html"]NETFLIX CCO Says DAREDEVIL TV Series Will Go 'Darker' Than Movie, Costume Will Be More 'Down to Earth'[/URL]
[QUOTE]"The series will not be afraid to go darker than the film did," Sarando revealed. "What we love about this particular set of heroes is that they're a little more down to Earth. Costume wise and also in that these are gritty crime stories, more in the streets than in the clouds."
The darker tone comments match a hint made in July at Comic-Con International: San Diego by Marvel Executive Editorial Director for Digital Media Group and Marvel.com Ryan “Agent M” Penagos. At the convention, Penagos told fans that Frank Miller’s seminal (and decidedly dark, gritty) run on Daredevil “might be something to read in the next year or so if you want hints about something else we are doing.”[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.movies.com/movie-news/39captain-america-339-codirector-anthony-russo-says-quotfans-are-going-to-freak-outquot/16640"]Anthony Russo talks Captain America 3[/URL]
[QUOTE]"We just got another incredible draft from the writers and are very excited about the film," says Anthony.[B] "I can't divulge who is going to be in the film, but I think the fans are going to freak out when they hear about it."[/B][/QUOTE]
Darker than the movie? Damn.
Either Red Skull or MODOK then.
[editline]27th August 2014[/editline]
MAYBE Baron Zemo.
[URL="http://comicbook.com/blog/2014/08/27/jeremy-renner-reveals-fate-of-hawkeye-in-avengers-age-of-ultron/"]Jeremy Renner:“No man, I don’t die. They are going to keep me around for a while,”[/URL]
And now begins the plotting of Joss...
[QUOTE=BanthaFodder;45817606]Either Red Skull or MODOK then.
[editline]27th August 2014[/editline]
MAYBE Baron Zemo.[/QUOTE]
My biggest dream is to have the Red Zone as an Avengers film or just a Cap film with lots of Cameos. I can dream!
[quote] "Do they have to be under contract with Marvel? Maybe they are at another studio."[/quote]
Oh don't play with my fan heart Russos
Peter Dinklage as MODOK.
C'mon, you know you want it.
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