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[QUOTE=Reagy;52570226]If you think your own posts are low effort then you shouldn't be posting.
Period.[/QUOTE]
I don't know about everyone else but I for one just drool on my keyboard with such velocity that it presses the keys and crafts every single post I make
Hey wasn't one of the excuses for the [del]poor[/del] [del]lazy[/del] [del]inadequate[/del] indifferent moderation regarding Tudd to "just add him to your ignore list"? Maybe FinalHunter should do that for the people he sees consistently making posts he doesn't like :thinking:
[QUOTE=TrafficMan;52570351]I don't know about everyone else but I for one just drool on my keyboard with such velocity that it presses the keys and crafts every single post I make[/QUOTE]
I've actually put extremely little effort into all the posts I've made in this thread this evening, don't tell the mods.
[highlight](User was banned for this post ("Mod sass" - Hezzy))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Raidyr;52570324]I mean I thought we were talking about hypothetical situations where we were going to start banning the posts that FinalHunter rattled off, but if you want historical precedent then I'd submit the formation of Polidicks, which was similarly created to combat the feeling of an "echo chamber" in SH, particularly regarding Trump. Pro-Trump posters generally don't post in Polidicks either (which is what I predicted, correctly, at the time) and instead stayed in SH or the Videos section where the rules were less strict. In fact if you want to argue that polidicks is a de facto echo chamber then I predicted that exact thing.
There seems to be some confusion here regarding whats defined as low effort posts. I never said low effort posts shouldn't be bannable. I was talking to the specific posts FinalHunter and Hezzy classify as low effort. The ones you linked are pretty clearly shitposts. Is calling for Trumps impeachment low effort? I don't think so. Is it a shitpost? I don't think so either.
I actually find that the more direct posts happen earlier in the thread, and that the longer the thread goes on you tend to get more detailed replies, especially when its the same handful of people replying to each other. That aside, how will more detailed posts make it not an echo chamber? You haven't explained this part to me.
Frankly then you guys have done a real bad job of making it seem like a debate section if we are in August and someone just now sees a problem
It's not about right vs left, it's just that most of the posts being culled are those of the left (or even just anti-Trump, because anti-Trump isn't a leftist position) with the goal of making discourse more palatable to conservatives.
On the other hand you do think your role is to redress the difference in representation amongst left and right spectrums, both past and present.
I was right about Polidicks reinforcing the echo chamber. I'm confident about this.[/QUOTE]
Man, you are looking way too deep into this.
[QUOTE=Hezzy;52570284]If the only thing they're articulating is "Fuck Trump" then to be honest they should just go sit on Facebook and post that kind of stuff here. The whole idea of PD, what the community requested, was a return of a debate section. [/QUOTE]
When are you actually going to ban people who repeatedly dance around arguments like certain posters in this thread here, who have a ban history longer than most of the permabanned users and who also just outright bait people? There's no good debate going to happen if people who start engaging in a debate consistently ignore points that don't fit their view. Don't even get me started on the obvious alt accounts created everytime one of the more notorious shitposters is banned again.
Also most threads don't simply just evolve into a "fuck trump" thread and it's more nuanced than that.
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Since the rating just reminded me of it, let me point out another thing:
[quote=UncleJimmema;52567090]It becomes an echo chamber when people start to out right suppress ideas that they don't agree with, something that we see literally every day. I don't give a damn if your ideas are shit, and if a neo-nazi wants to come in here and try to voice his opinion in a tactful manner be my guest. He'll be eaten alive, but he can do it. And I'm not going to ban him for it, but I will ban people who report it for the reason of disagreeing with that opinion. Its not about whether or not the opinion is shit, its about being able to voice that opinion without being suppressed by the majority. After they say whatever they want to say, so long as its a tactful manner, you'll all just go ape shit over it anyway and tear it apart.[/quote]
This is definitely not the way to go and you are basically just going to invite trolls with that attitude. Do you really think it is a good idea to let neo-nazis spew their bullshit in this forum? Do I have to remind you of Rumbler and co.? Also btw., please just make a clear, official rule whether you can get banned for reporting someone or not, since I already heard conflicting statements on that (Which is stupid by the way, you only really should ban for report spamming, else you are just going to make people not report anymore).
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52570372]i didn't read any of this
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It's cool, when I realized most of your post completely missed the point of what I was saying I just copy pasted the first thing that seemed relevant and replied.
[editline]13th August 2017[/editline]
Whoa neat I got a title, thats so cool. I can't even remember what we were talking about. Ban everyone idk.
[QUOTE=Hezzy;52570284]FinalHunter has quite rightly pointed out that masses of these low effort posts go unnoticed and unpunished, contrary to the guidelines that were established in February with the launch of the forum. I have spoken to the Moderation Team to try to rectify this. It isn't about Right vs Left or anything like that, it is about having a decent debate section.
I really could not care less about American politics and Right vs Left.[/QUOTE]
Well if you don't care about American politics you could be forgiven for, assumably, not reading them but the first part of your post is largely wrong. There's always going to be some amount of low effort posts and they tend to appear earlier in the thread but even without people like Tudd or FinalHunter posting in the threads there's almost always a fair amount of legitimate discussion going on. And if there's no discussion to be had then you just get those expected low effort posts (because there's really nothing else to say about the subject) and then the thread dies.
[editline]13th August 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Raidyr;52570379]Whoa neat I got a title, thats so cool. I can't even remember what we were talking about. Ban everyone idk.[/QUOTE]
The mods sure are quick to give titles shaming people to people who disagree with them and voice that opinion. It's pretty contrary to their stated views of not stifling discussion. I suppose it's okay when it's discussion they want to stifle though.
[QUOTE=Alice3173;52570422]
The mods sure are quick to give titles shaming people to people who disagree with them and voice that opinion. It's pretty contrary to their stated views of not stifling discussion. I suppose it's okay when it's discussion they want to stifle though.[/QUOTE]
I was going to say that I appreciate how mine matches up with my choice of avatar but based off the title you got I can see why you have a different perspective on these things.
It looks like a joke title lol.
Yours is more of a shaming title.
[QUOTE=Pascall;52570430]It looks like a joke title lol.
Yours is more of a shaming title.[/QUOTE]
In that case I am incredibly sad now.
[QUOTE=NoOneKnowsMe;52570375]When are you actually going to ban people who repeatedly dance around arguments like certain posters in this thread here, who have a ban history longer than most of the permabanned users and who also just outright bait people? There's no good debate going to happen if people who start engaging in a debate consistently ignore points that don't fit their view. Don't even get me started on the obvious alt accounts created everytime one of the more notorious shitposters is banned again.
Also most threads don't simply just evolve into a "fuck trump" thread and it's more nuanced than that.[/QUOTE]
Please could you provide evidence of these people?
[QUOTE=NoOneKnowsMe;52570375]Since the rating just reminded me of it, let me point out another thing:
This is definitely not the way to go and you are basically just going to invite trolls with that attitude. Do you really think it is a good idea to let neo-nazis spew their bullshit in this forum? Do I have to remind you of Rumbler and co.? Also btw., please just make a clear, official rule whether you can get banned for reporting someone or not, since I already heard conflicting statements on that (Which is stupid by the way, you only really should ban for report spamming, else you are just going to make people not report anymore).[/QUOTE]
It depends what they're posting. If they're posting hate speech, they'll be banned. If they want to legitimate debate then they are entitled to their opinion.
We haven't banned anyone for flippant reports. I've sent a few warning PMs to people who consistently made reports because they didn't like the person's political opinion and the warnings were heeded.
[QUOTE=Alice3173;52570422]The mods sure are quick to give titles shaming people to people who disagree with them and voice that opinion. It's pretty contrary to their stated views of not stifling discussion. I suppose it's okay when it's discussion they want to stifle though.[/QUOTE]
How's that stick?
[QUOTE=Scratch.;52570200]Even mods have to follow the rules sometimes
Otherwise you end up like Mad Maxime[/QUOTE]
Since when because anyone else saying this garbage
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52570372]i didn't read any of this[/QUOTE]
Would be banned
Meanwhile I'm just sitting here like "mum, make me more popcorn. Shit just got interesting" :v:
[QUOTE=Hezzy;52570491]How's that stick?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Your post was condescending and rude.
If you can't understand this, I don't see how anybody can successfully explain this to you. [/QUOTE]
A quality post of yours from the RC
[QUOTE=Hezzy;52570491]How's that stick?[/QUOTE]
You're really just proving my point more with this attitude.
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52570534]Cool cause he missed my post when I laid it out for his intentionally dense attitude. He's banned anyway. Case in point.[/QUOTE]
That doesnt make "haha lol didnt read" any less shit?
[QUOTE=Hezzy;52570491]How's that stick?[/QUOTE]
Looks to me like it's gone deeper.
Fuck Trump
Fuck Trump
Fuck Trump
Fuck Trump
Fuck Trump
Fuck Trump
Fuck Trump
[QUOTE=icemaz;52570553]Fuck Trump[/QUOTE]
finally somebody said it
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52570559]Except I didn't say haha lol didn't read exactly.
Nice one making my low effort post even more low effort.[/QUOTE]
Great, now we gotta lower the bar AGAIN. THANKS KIWI
Could someone fill me in on what's going on in here now, I'm confused.
wacky as fuck in here yall
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52570559]Except I didn't say haha lol didn't read exactly.
Nice one making my low effort post even more low effort.[/QUOTE]
"I didnt say lol didnt read I just said lol didnt read in a different way"
hes got you there kiwi
hes got ya
WoAH did anyone else get that lag?
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