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[QUOTE=Tudd;52221021] Make me mod and I will never start a thread again.[/QUOTE] But then who will be the voice of reason in this liberal echo chamber!!?!??!?!!?
quickly tudd map out your pr3dator revival plan to ban the whole forums
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52221110]You realize how dangerous this is Tudd?[/QUOTE] I mean I would be sad that some of the news wouldn't get on here, but if i can serve my community for the better, it will be worth it. Better keep that Palpatine image around though just incase. :v:
don't worry ill make the threads for you just send me the links i got ya fam
[QUOTE=Arc Nova;52221189]don't worry ill make the threads for you just send me the links i got ya fam[/QUOTE] That underground thread trading would be legit. Then everyone would be accusing each other of Tuddposting to the point of having to drop the accusations out of sanity.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;52219864]You are more mad about Tudd right now than everyone else. Just add them to your ignore list lmao[/QUOTE] Literally not mad. If you're referring about the post when I mentioned the word censor it was obviously a joke. I would never use "ya'll" in a legitimate sentence. I care about the forums, sure. That's why I'll sit down and take the time to write replies to people. [QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52219868]yeah my dude, that's the whole point i'm making. not like i'm calling for [I]the exact opposite[/I] of "banning just because i don't like them" by saying that banning dishonest nutjobs with a fringe agenda has never been frowned upon by the FP mod team before, and actually makes complete sense. no sir, it's all a kindergarten feud, and nothing to do with the fact it's a completely reasonable and justified thing to do[/QUOTE] I will listen to people if they provide evidence. Nobody given me anything valid so far. Consider that most of the moderation team are sick of Tudd, or hearing about Tudd. Wouldn't it just be easier to ban him every time he steps out of line? Well that's what is happening. He is currently being watched. Pretty much everything he posts is scrutinised. He is being banned for [I]every[/I] rule he breaks. When was the last time a user was subject to such attention from the moderation team? [QUOTE=LobsterMts;52219890]something about hezzy i've noticed is that he's always deflecting any and all criticism, dismissing it as "crying" or "complaining", with the replies being passive-aggressive bullshit and in the occassion mentioning his "many years of moderation experience". off your high horse.[/QUOTE] I could always just ignore your posts? Or better yet, I could ban you because I felt like it? But no, I take the time to reply to people, even if they are overtly intending to be rude or insulting towards me. I don't have to; I chose to. Would you prefer I didn't? I address concerns, explain why things are the way they are. Just because I'm not doing what you want me to doesn't mean I'm "deflecting" or "dismissing" things. I take everything on board. When have I ever posted about my "many years of moderation experience"? I don't even think I have typed those exact words in that exact order before. Quote a post. [QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;52220026]Have we bannned reagy for furry shit yet?[/QUOTE] Any day now. I'll never look at apples the same way [QUOTE=RenegadeCop;52220055]Tudd is just a red herring to distract us from the [I]dramatically[/I] increased number of anime in the mod roster.[/QUOTE] Silence this man, he has cracked the code [QUOTE=ForgottenKane;52220540]Seems to me like you're the one "QQ'ing" with posts like these: Did you really expect anything else when you lift Tudd to meme status after April Fools? You pissed on the floor and now you're mad that people are complaining about the piss on the floor. Also, I do have to say, it's incredibly demeaning and pretentious to reply to actual posts with nonsense like the first quote. Are community managers supposed to be dicks to the community like this?[/QUOTE] Please refer to my explanation earlier. It was a joke. People were complaining about Tudd long before he was made a moderator. It was [B]exactly[/B] why he was made a joke moderator in the first place. Because we knew it would irritate the fuck out of a lot of people. In fact, it annoyed people so much that in their anger, very few of them came to realise that it was in fact April Fools Day. [QUOTE=Damjen;52220703]Letting Tudd freely shitpost and bait people is not the way to make this forum less biased Hezzy.[/QUOTE] Feel free to provide actual evidence of what you believe to be a "shitpost" and I'll gladly review it myself. [QUOTE=ForgottenKane;52220914]Also, I've been meaning to ask this for a while, [i]where the fuck is Dav0r[/i]? I haven't seen him in a while. I remember when he was a normal member and literally one of the worst posters on the entire forums by a long shot. He made Tudd (or rather what many people make Tudd out to be) look like a fucking baby. Then one day he was modded and I felt like the world went upside down, the forums were going to go on fire, tyranny was about to descend on mankind. Then he became a great poster. What kind of Mike Pence shock therapy did you guys use on him? Jesus Christ he made the switch so fast I thought I switched universes or something. I miss him now.[/QUOTE] How was Dav0r one of the worst posters on the entire forums?
I like how darkpunch makes the text white, making it nearly impossible to read anything in OIFY. It's an improvement tbh.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;52220914]Also, I've been meaning to ask this for a while, [i]where the fuck is Dav0r[/i]? I haven't seen him in a while.[/QUOTE] Dav0r? You mean Davi0r?
Anyone else getting anti-virus warning from Facepunch atm? I have to assume it's an external image that's doing it. I'm using Avria.
[QUOTE=download;52221429]Anyone else getting anti-virus warning from Facepunch atm? I have to assume it's an external image that's doing it. I'm using Avria.[/QUOTE] Be an external image, is it giving you a URL related to it? They've likely flagged mixtape again or something.
[QUOTE=Reagy;52221470]Be an external image, is it giving you a URL related to it? They've likely flagged mixtape again or something.[/QUOTE] The antivirus is just flagging Firefox temp files when I'm on Facepunch. Not sure what page is doing it as its not setting of the Avira browser plugin.
[QUOTE=download;52221480]The antivirus is just flagging Firefox temp files when I'm on Facepunch. Not sure what page is doing it as its not setting of the Avira browser plugin.[/QUOTE] I'd be half inclined to purge all of your browser's saved files, that isn't exactly normal for it to be flagging temp files. Normally it'd be bitching about a URL or a specific file, temp files sounds more like something is running that shouldn't be.
[QUOTE=Reagy;52221495]I'd be half inclined to purge all of your browser's saved files, that isn't exactly normal for it to be flagging temp files. Normally it'd be bitching about a URL or a specific file, temp files sounds more like something is running that shouldn't be.[/QUOTE] It's been a while since I've done a purge. Might be a good idea.
[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;52220026]Have we bannned reagy for furry shit yet?[/QUOTE] not yet
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[QUOTE=Hezzy;52221366]I will listen to people if they provide evidence. Nobody given me anything valid so far. Consider that most of the moderation team are sick of Tudd, or hearing about Tudd. Wouldn't it just be easier to ban him every time he steps out of line? Well that's what is happening. He is currently being watched. Pretty much everything he posts is scrutinised. He is being banned for [I]every[/I] rule he breaks. When was the last time a user was subject to such attention from the moderation team? [/QUOTE] That's because these kinds of bans have always been handed out more on mod discretion than on previously established rules That Yawmwen guy, Lord M or even MaxofS2D weren't breaking any rules. They just made horrible posts to push their agenda until someone went "Yeah ok, this guy is a fringe weirdo and we're losing more than we're getting by letting them stick around and shit up the forum". But you can't really look at the posts that got them banned and say "This is breaking X or Y rule" I mean, look at [url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1563783&p=52220223&viewfull=1#post52220223]this thread[/url]. It's vapid bullshit. Literally the only reason it exists is because Caitlyn Jenner receives support from groups the Trump camp doesn't like. ...Plus it probably has to do with Tudd's blatant transphobia, like when he said gender dysphoria is a mental illness on par with otherkin: [img]https://puu.sh/vw1sJ/4fafe72aa3.png[/img] But I digress. The point is that it's a shit thread made with the sole purpose of drumming up hate against a figure/group he doesn't like. But on its own, it's pretty innocent and doesn't explicitly break any rules. It's the exact same thing with all the other droves of bullshit that he posts. Most of the time, it's only there to vilify and antagonize massive swathes of the forum's userbase (read: shit stirring), but he gets away with it because it's just under the surface.
[QUOTE=Hezzy;52221366]I will listen to people if they provide evidence. Nobody given me anything valid so far. Consider that most of the moderation team are sick of Tudd, or hearing about Tudd. Wouldn't it just be easier to ban him every time he steps out of line? [/QUOTE] I don't want to tell you how to do your job but maybe you should try to be more approachable when it comes to Tudd or general forum problems. [QUOTE=Hezzy;52219839]Gosh darn it those pesky mods won't ban somebody I want them to ban! Curses, why do they have to try to be fair?[/QUOTE] No one is going to bother having an actual debate with you when you don't make yourself open. When you assume people's intent or shitpost (even ironically), no one wants to have a serious discussion with you. [editline]5[/editline] That's actually how debating goes in the news subforums. When someone clearly doesn't want to have an actual discussion, they get ignored. That's because if we argue with them, we risk a ban for taking the bait.
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52221771]Examples? Not saying you're incorrect nor correct just want a clearer picture.[/QUOTE] [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1563533&p=52212606&viewfull=1#post52212606[/url] [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1563369&p=52207399&viewfull=1#post52207399[/url] [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1548262&p=51656794&viewfull=1#post51656794[/url] [editline]5[/editline] I can't search the refugee camp, but in that last one I was also banned too. I asked for clarification and a mod (don't know if it was rilez himself) said that I shouldn't fall for bait and I argued that it's impossible to tell if someone is serious or baiting. Even mods have trouble with it. [editline]3[/editline] going on every page and pressing ctrl+f works wonders [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1548389[/url] My personal example isn't the best one since mine was heated and generally a terrible post, which is why I didn't link it. I can't see anything wrong with the last one other than it was replying to bait so I'm going to safely assume that's the reason why that person was banned.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52221606]That's because these kinds of bans have always been handed out more on mod discretion than on previously established rules That Yawmwen guy, Lord M or even MaxofS2D weren't breaking any rules. They just made horrible posts to push their agenda until someone went "Yeah ok, this guy is a fringe weirdo and we're losing more than we're getting by let them stick around and shit up the forum". But you can't really look at the posts that got them banned and say "This is breaking X or Y rule" I mean, look at [url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1563783&p=52220223&viewfull=1#post52220223]this thread[/url]. It's vapid bullshit. Literally the only reason it exists is because Caitlyn Jenner receives support from groups the Trump camp doesn't like. ...Plus it probably has to do with Tudd's blatant transphobia, like when he said gender dysphoria is a mental illness on par with otherkin: [img]https://puu.sh/vw1sJ/4fafe72aa3.png[/img] But I digress. The point is that it's a shit thread made with the sole purpose of drumming up hate against a figure/group he doesn't like. But on its own, it's pretty innocent and doesn't explicitly break any rules. It's the exact same thing with all the other droves of bullshit that he posts. Most of the time, it's only there to vilify and antagonize massive swathes of the forum's userbase (read: shit stirring), but he gets away with it because it's just under the surface.[/QUOTE] First: Gender Dysphoria is a mental disorder. I think me calling it an illness in that case was a mistake, but that was the language being used in that conversation at the time on the otherkin people and I redact myself here cause it is a Mental Disorder by medical standards. Second: There really isn't any blatant trans-phobia from me, mostly because I am not trans-phobic. I honestly am not scared of them nor harbor hate for them. Third: Caitlyn Jenner is actually a republican and has made some lukewarm comments towards Trump/tried to work with him. So that narrative falls out that I would only hate her because of that if that truly was the case. The LGBT community actually hates her for this dynamic.
Tudd Debate Megathread when? This kind of stuff is not what I want this thread to be all about all the time.
[QUOTE=Zombinie;52221822]Tudd Debate Megathread when? This kind of stuff is not what I want this thread to be all about all the time.[/QUOTE] then I guess nobody's forcing you to read the thread lol. [editline]12th May 2017[/editline] just ignore the thread and the problem goes away
Since when is [url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1563757]Huffington Post a bad source[/url]? Especially an article like that?
[QUOTE=Anti Christ;52221839]then I guess nobody's forcing you to read the thread lol. [editline]12th May 2017[/editline] just ignore the thread and the problem goes away[/QUOTE] Just like Tudd threads!
Hey look my mediabiasfactcheck idea got in the rules. So what is the definition of heavy bias? Was it my suggestion of anything left of left-center or anything right of right-center? [editline]4[/editline] Is it acceptable to post a past left-center source if you post a center source? I'm noticing that posting an article of heavy bias is fine as long as it's accompanied by a neutral article.
[QUOTE=Anti Christ;52221839]then I guess nobody's forcing you to read the thread lol. [editline]12th May 2017[/editline] just ignore the thread and the problem goes away[/QUOTE] I get that, and that was a fairly great zinger, but I don't find that to be a fair comparison. Because the thing is that this thread used to be about serious (well, let's be honest not always) forum discussion beyond this high-school level drama and gossip. When you go to a Tudd thread, you know what to expect, but when I see this thread with 70+ replies I get disappointed half the time, because half the time, it's about Tudd when I hope it would be something serious or funny or important. I know no one is [I]forcing [/I]me to read the thread, but I [I]want [/I]to read the thread because I expect something beyond this pettiness between users. Maybe my expectations are too high.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;52220914]Also, I've been meaning to ask this for a while, [i]where the fuck is Dav0r[/i]? I haven't seen him in a while. I remember when he was a normal member and literally one of the worst posters on the entire forums by a long shot. He made Tudd (or rather what many people make Tudd out to be) look like a fucking baby. Then one day he was modded and I felt like the world went upside down, the forums were going to go on fire, tyranny was about to descend on mankind. Then he became a great poster. What kind of Mike Pence shock therapy did you guys use on him? Jesus Christ he made the switch so fast I thought I switched universes or something. I miss him now.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=ForgottenKane;52220887]I didn't even realize we had one until recently when I saw Hezzy's title. Are community managers here actually just mascots? Like TH89 or [i]a certain frenchman hon hon[/i] at the peak of their absurd modding?[/QUOTE] lol I don't remember any of that happening. Dav0r getting mod status happened like agggges ago in 2006ish, but I think I don't remember any drama from that?? likewise TH89 was a great moderator who just had that one drama issue where he banned some people that garry undid the bans for, but he wasn't demodded until way later when he requested it. Hell, even maxofs2D was actually fine at moderating and that just had outspoken views on feminism that pissed people off. The actual bans and such he did were, at least as far as I remember, totally fine. are we living in alternate realities??
Does the left/right wing bias of a news site particularly matter when it is good at reporting the truth? The factcheck website does include a measure of how factual the reporting of a news site is, which at least to me would seem like a better indicator of source quality than the political bias, especially if other sources can corroborate. Banning Huffington Post as a bad source seems pretty weird to me seeing as the website rates it as being a good factual reporter; it seems a little weird when news sites like Fox and Daily Mail have been allowed previously despite showing a worse rating for factual reporting.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52219177]idk man it's just kind of silly. facepunch has banned people for doing exactly the same thing as tudd, the only difference is that the mods bought into his victim complex this time. so now the guy's completely insulated from getting banned for more than a day because the mods ~don't ban for opinions~ (except for all the other hundreds of times where they did)[/QUOTE] I find the excuse that mods don't want to stifle unpopular opinions to be pretty hypocritical anyways seeing as they have no issues attempting to publicly shame people if they have opinions they aren't a fan of. [QUOTE=Hezzy;52219839]Gosh darn it those pesky mods won't ban somebody I want them to ban! Curses, why do they have to try to be fair?[/QUOTE] Legitimate question: Do you ever wonder why some of us don't actually respect you? It's shit attitudes like this. You not only don't bother reading what people are saying (ie: People keep repeatedly saying "we're [B][U]NOT[/U][/B] saying we want Tudd banned" and yet you won't let that idea go.) but then you proceed to just condescend to them and generally act like a jerk. This sort of garbage is the exact sort of reason I opposed your remodding to begin with. [QUOTE=postal;52222108]lol I don't remember any of that happening. Dav0r getting mod status happened like agggges ago in 2006ish, but I think I don't remember any drama from that?? likewise TH89 was a great moderator who just had that one drama issue where he banned some people that garry undid the bans for, but he wasn't demodded until way later when he requested it. Hell, even maxofs2D was actually fine at moderating and that just had outspoken views on feminism that pissed people off. The actual bans and such he did were, at least as far as I remember, totally fine. are we living in alternate realities??[/QUOTE] Didn't he get demodded at some point and then remodded later on? I recall him not being a mod when I joined the site but being remodded around the same time Craptasket was modded. [QUOTE=Carlito;52222224]Does the left/right wing bias of a news site particularly matter when it is good at reporting the truth? The factcheck website does include a measure of how factual the reporting of a news site is, which at least to me would seem like a better indicator of source quality than the political bias, especially if other sources can corroborate. Banning Huffington Post as a bad source seems pretty weird to me seeing as the website rates it as being a good factual reporter; it seems a little weird when news sites like Fox and Daily Mail have been allowed previously despite showing a worse rating for factual reporting.[/QUOTE] The issue with too severe a bias is that they'll spin the story to suit their agenda. It can get pretty misleading if they're subtle enough about it. So while it's not technically factually inaccurate it's still pretty dishonest.
[QUOTE=Alice3173;52222298](ie: People keep repeatedly saying "we're [B][U]NOT[/U][/B] saying we want Tudd banned" and yet you won't let that idea go.) but then you proceed to just condescend to them and generally act like a jerk.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry i don't understand what you mean here, can you rephrase it in a way that says Tudd should be banned so I can make a snarky shitpost about how everyone wants him banned even though that doesnt happen?
If you hate his threads, why not beat him at his own quota? You can play just as dirty as him if you want so long as you follow the same conditions that has prevented him from being banned. If you don't want to do that because of ethics or level stooping sure but then you don't have much else to complain about lmao.
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