Buying used games/movies/music is wore than pirating them - General

I bought my Mercedes Benz 300E USED, and I service it myself with after-market parts! WOE IS ME, I'M KILLING THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY.

I don't give a shit about what happens to any sort of company. I just want my game.

Game developers work directly with game retailers in order to provide incentives for purchasing games new. That's why you often see "Gamestop exclusive content," or similar marketing tactics to make you purchase or pre-purchase a new game from a retailer. There are also pricing strategies to make users more likely to purchase a game new than used in the period immediately surrounding release, such as pricing a used copy at only five dollars less. Most people will just buck up the extra five bucks for a new copy. It's not like the retailers are sneaking around behind the developers' backs, selling their used games and skimming away their profits like a dirty bookkeeper. Developers understand that nearly all of the profits on a game will come during and directly following its release. That's not to say that no profit is made after a game has been out for some time. I'm one of the many people that doesn't like buying used games, but it's not out of principle. I simply like having an unmarred case, a scratch-free disc, and (most importantly) the game booklet. I don't know why I want the booklet, I never actually read the damn things, but I still feel cheated when I open a case and see no booklet. So, I don't buy used games--I just wait for the price to drop on an unused one. Another thing to consider is that paid DLC always contributes to the developers. This has sparked a rather annoying fucking trend of the developers not releasing the FULL game, and having paid expansions available on release. As somebody who always purchases his games, I can't help but feel that this is goddamn unacceptable. [i]"Welp, you just paid us sixty bucks for your game! If you want the rest of it, cough up another fifteen in 'optional DLC.'"[/i]

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;27672061]Game developers work directly with game retailers in order to provide incentives for purchasing games new. That's why you often see "Gamestop exclusive content," or similar marketing tactics to make you purchase or pre-purchase a new game from a retailer. There are also pricing strategies to make users more likely to purchase a game new than used in the period immediately surrounding release, such as pricing a used copy at only five dollars less. Most people will just buck up the extra five bucks for a new copy. It's not like the retailers are sneaking around behind the developers' backs, selling their used games and skimming away their profits like a dirty bookkeeper, the developers understand that nearly all of the profits on the game will come during and directly following a game's release. That's not to say that no profit is made after a game has been out for some time. I'm one on of the many people that doesn't like buying used games, but it's not out of principle. I simply like having an unmarred case, a scratch-free disc, and (most importantly) the game booklet. I don't know why I want the booklet, I never actually read the damn things, but I still feel cheated when I open a case and see no booklet. So, I don't buy used games--I just wait for the price to drop on an unused one.[/QUOTE] That's another thing. Remember when the booklets that came with games were long and full of lots of content/lore/whatever? Yeah you don't get that anymore.

Yeah, it's a tough old world.

Buying from a game store instead of a retailer, vice-versa, still denies profit to one group or the other. However, the right thing to do is buy it anyway rather than pirate it. Better to give a little bit of your money than none.

gamestop people are the biggest dicks ever my girlfriend went inside to buy me reach for Christmas and when she said can I get halo 4, they all started laughing at her and telling her that she should have had her dad come and get it.

hmmm i used to be a big pirate for games, but then I got a job and felt guilty for it, so now i buy all my games XD Now with movies i pirate them very often; HOWEVER, this is to just see if I will like it and if so I then proceed to buy it. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Warez" - Orkel))[/highlight]

You are such a consumer whore OP, you truly are.

Wow, you're insecure as shit dude, at least stay with your fucking opinion, as stupid as it is, and don't be all "uhh shit ppl disagree wid me ima adapt their opinion"

How is it pirating??? Last time i checked its perfectly legal. It gives the company a bit more money for their best sellers.

Where do you think the used game came from? [b]The game company[/b]. They don't care if you resell it, and if they did, they would add some kind of license.

Wow nice originality op [url]http://kotaku.com/5743755/is-buying-used-video-games-worse-than-stealing-them[/url] Buying preowned is still buying, someone bought the game at some point

Hmm, so there must be something inherently wrong with buying a game like Goldeneye used? Only reasonable course of action is to spend a fortune on the mint edition never played?

This is why you don't go to a store that will give you $5 for a game that costs $60 new. This is why you trade with friends/sell to friends. I actively tell my friends DO NOT go to GameStop to trade-in games. I'll give you 2x as much as them, and we both make out well. I get a deal, and they get a good offer.

People pirate games usually because the game isn't worth the money, like Mafia 2 so many people pirated it because it wasn't worth 60$ + addons = 100$

But buying a second hand game is a lot cheaper than buying a new one so noone really cares at this point in time

piracy. before I came to Facepunch, I didn't even know what it was

[QUOTE=breakyourfac;27670991]But how do you think the pirates ... upload a movie? They have to buy at least 1 copy.[/QUOTE] cam

The actual pirates do most of the work, making the keygens and cracks and all... They need some credit but its still illegal.

When you rob someone, you take away the original copy. When you pirate it, you make a copy.

If you stopped selling used games worldwide tomorrow, the industry would be fucked. 90% of game sales are at launch, not a week later when the used games are on the market. You can only have used games if they were brought new in the FIRST PLACE. If you've got a lot of used sales, you've got a lot of new sales. Gamestop's whole trade-in policy is that you buy a game, play it and send it in to get credit, which is used to buy NEW games. UFC 2010 (a game with the shitty online pass "buy new or get punished") failed against RDR because people didn't have $120 to spend on two games that week, but if they had used game credit, they would be able to. LOGIC! Developers rely on used game sales more than they make you think.

Stop making threads, they are all horrible.

I don't go to gamestop, I got to funcoland.

People who don't buy new games buy used ones, because they don't have money to buy new games. Or maybe because they don't want to pay the full price of the game because they think it's not worth it...

Why did you label this as politics? So buying games/music legally and most likely virus-free is stupider than getting it illegally and possibly with a virus fun pack? You're fucking stupid.

You know some people cant afford to buy all their games brand new,50% of my games were pre owned.

the resuability of a product increases its worth ie people will be more likely to buy a product they can sell later, meaning more money for the producer

I like buying used games because they have a better return policy.

Customer buys game from developers. Customer sells game to someone else for less than the original cost. That person who bought it cheaper now sells it for a bit more to make a profit themselves. Let's take another look at this. The game has been bought. One copy of (GAME) is now yours. You decide you didn't enjoy it as much and want to get some of you're money back. You now trade you're game to someone who wants it for some money. One copy of (GAME) is now someone elses. You did not keep that copy, it is in someone else's possession. Developers did not lose profit on said game as the game was no duplicated and is in it's original form as ONE copy. So you see. It is not worse than pirating. It is a simple form of trading. Profit is not lost, neither is it ever gained back. You however, being the one who bought it first loses the most of them all. As you now have essentially spent $30-40 on a game you did not keep. That is a lot for a rental, yes? However the person you sold it to who has all intentions of selling it for higher will gain the best profit next to the developers themselves as they made the money back they spent on you and then some, but not more than cost of a brand new copy. Piracy is clearly worse.