• My new girlfriend has a tracking device in her phone - The fuck do I do about it?
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[QUOTE=woolio1;42697686]It could be argued that,[B] since the girl's 16 or younger[/B], her parents have the responsibility to keep an eye on her while she lives with them. I don't think that's particularly unreasonable, but it does show signs of distrust in the mother. It's also almost universally-accepted that the civil rights regarding freedom and privacy aren't in effect until you turn 18, here in the States.[/QUOTE] What are you basing this off of, OP hasn't mentioned age at all.
This girls parents sound so immature, fuck if you can't understand that your child deserves privacy in their own life and ways then why bother pretending your doing the best for them? There only fooling themselves, unless shes on some Interpol hit list they haven't the right (I don't believe), not even as guardians to know her location 24/7. Is this not something that could be brought to the attention of the police? I don't want to sound melodramatic, but come on, this is just ludicrous. Best of luck OP I'd recommend first and foremost getting an official to sort this out, failing that rooting the phone and flashing a custom rom seems a safe bet. [editline]30th October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=S31-Syntax;42697744]What are you basing this off of, OP hasn't mentioned age at all.[/QUOTE] Also, we don't know where the OP lives right?
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;42697744]What are you basing this off of, OP hasn't mentioned age at all.[/QUOTE] You know, that's a bit odd... He stated his age in one of his posts, but it's gone now. I've also just noticed he has no country badge under his name. Weird.
If you're under 20 and not truly in love, and by that I mean actual love not what most people consider false feelings to be, just break up with her. You're either going to marry her or break up with her anyways at x point, and chances are it'll end up being the latter. Might as well get it over with sooner rather than later, considering all this baggage. [editline]wat[/editline] and the potential bullshit this situation might put you in/you might have to deal with.
[QUOTE=woolio1;42697803]You know, that's a bit odd... He stated his age in one of his posts, but it's gone now. I've also just noticed he has no country badge under his name. Weird.[/QUOTE] Fuck, OP is OP's girlfriend's mom
Still never realized why parents do this, my folks are quite relaxed with where I go and what I do, a great deal of trust between me and them is probably why But yeah i would just factory reset the phone, probably the easiest solution
[QUOTE=Cruma;42697825]If you're under 20 and not truly in love, and by that I mean actual love not what most people consider false feelings to be, just break up with her. You're either going to marry her or break up with her anyways at x point, and chances are it'll end up being the latter. Might as well get it over with sooner rather than later, considering all this baggage. [editline]wat[/editline] and the potential bullshit this situation might put you in/you might have to deal with.[/QUOTE] You have a tracking device in your phone, it's over ya wench
You can actually buy jammers for this kinda shit... Not that I would know anything about that..
[QUOTE=S33T;42699364]You can actually buy jammers for this kinda shit... Not that I would know anything about that..[/QUOTE] Active signal jammers I'm fairly certain are several levels of illegal. FCC regulations and all that. Like that one dude that kept a giant-ass radio transmitter in his chickenhouse just to spook airliners as they flew over by, well, jamming them. Then one day, Air Force One flew over, and he did it, and had secret service knocking on his door within the hour. ANd I can't find the story either. SOmething tells me googling "air force one radio jammer" wouldn't be too bright though.
[QUOTE=Alpha 1-1;42694606]So, my new girlfriend told me she has a tracking device in her phone. Her biological mom has demonstrated that it works, and apparently my girlfriend's Mom, step-mom and father all have access to it. I'm pretty sure it's a third party application installed on her Galaxy S3, not the Verizon family plan, because her mom sees it on her computer and isn't on the same phone plan as my girlfriend. She can't see it in the apps list, so it's apparently hidden. Her mom is a fucking nutter, she also tracks her boyfriend AND has access to the records of all of his calls. This is so close to big brother it's not even funny. She can't visit me on the weekdays because we live too far away, and I can't drive there then. Visiting on the weekends is hard because she either has to be at my house with people constantly bugging and/or monitoring us, and it's even WORSE at hers. This combined with all of this NSA horse shit that's been going down is making me feel more and more like Big Brother's already here. Even if you don't have any ideas of what to do about it, I thought you guys would find this interesting/I wanted to rant about it. This is just so fucking despicable it's not even funny. So, ideas? Comments?[/QUOTE] What the tracking device does? It just tracks the location right? You can take her to bed even with a tracking device on her phone, just saying.
[QUOTE=woolio1;42697686]It could be argued that, since the girl's 16 or younger, her parents have the responsibility to keep an eye on her while she lives with them. I don't think that's particularly unreasonable, but it does show signs of distrust in the mother. It's also almost universally-accepted that the civil rights regarding freedom and privacy aren't in effect until you turn 18, here in the States.[/QUOTE] Fair enough. But I'd still stick the argument that the US, before the greed driven, was freedom driven at one point. Parents do not have the right to be inside of their kids lives to the point where the child has no freedom, in my opinion. The parent's right is to train and take responsibility until the child is a legal adult. Until they're 18, they should be guided, not controlled.
Not sure if I misunderstood something, but can't she just - leave the phone at home?
Stop complaining about her parents parenting techniques. To them you're a horny teenage boy who wants to bang their daughter. Show some respect.
[QUOTE=3com111;42703006]Stop complaining about her parents parenting techniques. To them you're a horny teenage boy who wants to bang their daughter. Show some respect.[/QUOTE] lowjacking your kid is pretty wacky not gonna lie [editline]30th October 2013[/editline] try dialing "23723787" in the phone, tell me if anything pops up
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;42696758]I'd say it really comes down to age but of course OP is not obliged to tell us how old his girlfriend is.[/QUOTE] 16, same as me. [editline]30th October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=woolio1;42697803]You know, that's a bit odd... He stated his age in one of his posts, but it's gone now. I've also just noticed he has no country badge under his name. Weird.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Alpha 1-1;42694746]Also yes, I'm 16. All of her parents like me, but there's no way they'd get rid of it because they like me as far as I'm aware.[/QUOTE] Also, weird, it displays it for me. I'm an American, so is she. Good responses so far I'd say, more people seem to be fine with her being tracked all the time than I would expect or like though. Doesn't bode well for the future, but then again this stuff's starting to nearly become normal in society's mind, which worries me considerably. [editline]30th October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Foxtrot200;42695626]If you're both adults or if you just don't give a shit, I'd say root the device and use a task scheduler to force a GPS spoofer to run before the tracker app. If you can't exactly do that, find a way to kill the tracker, run the spoofer, and then restart the tracker.[/QUOTE] Huh. I never thought of that, I'll have to give that a try. I've rooted my Galaxy Player, and I hear the S3 is moddable as all hell. Thanks for the suggestion man. [editline]30th October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Fake-XM;42701790]Not sure if I misunderstood something, but can't she just - leave the phone at home?[/QUOTE] They want her to bring it with her all the time, and have a fit when she doesn't. That's the issue.
oh you're both underage??? well sucks for you. it's a overbearing move, but it's perfectly legal
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;42703638]oh you're both underage??? well sucks for you. it's a overbearing move, but it's perfectly legal[/QUOTE] Well, it's not that it's illegal or anything, just because something's legal doesn't mean it's right. Btw, if we weren't underage why would I make this thread? I'd just root her phone and delete that shit. What are they gonna do?
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;42703044]lowjacking your kid is pretty wacky not gonna lie [editline]30th October 2013[/editline] try dialing "23723787" in the phone, tell me if anything pops up[/QUOTE] I got "welcome to verizon wireless, this number has been deactivated or recently changed. goodbye."
[QUOTE=Cruma;42697825]If you're under 20 and not truly in love, and by that I mean actual love not what most people consider false feelings to be, just break up with her. You're either going to marry her or break up with her anyways at x point, and chances are it'll end up being the latter. Might as well get it over with sooner rather than later, considering all this baggage. [editline]wat[/editline] and the potential bullshit this situation might put you in/you might have to deal with.[/QUOTE] If you break up with everyone you haven't yet married you're never going to be with anyone long enough to get married fyi
[QUOTE=3com111;42703006]Stop complaining about her parents parenting techniques. To them you're a horny teenage boy who wants to bang their daughter. Show some respect.[/QUOTE] as if breaking rules was the evilest thing imaginable "show some respect" dear god have you ever been 16
1. break phone in front of her parents. 2. earn their respect by showing them that you have balls. 3. permission to bang their daughter: granted. 4. do her now you're welcome.
I know you can't access the app itself but what about just turning GPS/WiFi/3G off on her phone?
Mail me her phone, I'll mail you back mine. [sp]Not really.[/sp]
You could just buy one of those faraday cage phone bags, they only cost like £10.
Aluminum foil wrap
It sounds like this gal's mother is a control freak. She'll probably turn out just like her. Look for warning signs. Also, this isn't the sort of family you want to become a part of -- you will never quite measure up to her mother's expectations, and she might convince her daughter to start exercising control over you too -- so I'd keep it non-serious. And yes, there are people that meet their future spouse at your age. If things do get serious, try to postpone marriage until you have the financial means to elope and get the fuck away from her family. For now, I'd watch for if she's showing curiosity in who's texting you or who you were talking to on the phone or what was said and all that. Learn what she expects from you regarding these things, and other things like smoking, pornography, and other vices. Make absolutely clear to her that your business is your business, but do so in a way that isn't unfair to her. [QUOTE=Zeke129;42696541]I don't agree. There's a point where violating your child's privacy becomes so overwhelming and potentially causes such psychological distress that it borders on child abuse. A 24/7 location tracker pushes this border. Privacy should be a fundamental human right because it's just so important to mental wellbeing.[/QUOTE] It's okay to track your children so long as you don't tell them. Using white lies, you can come off as not tracking them. The grapevine is a great source to give when queried about where you got information. However, if your children know exactly how they're being tracked, then yeah, that's pretty damaging. As a parent, the responsibility rests on her and only her to know where her daughter is and what sort of things she's up to. Reading text messages and tracking her location are great ways of doing this. I would say, however, that there are responsible ways of using the information and there are reckless ways of using it. For example, busting your kid for cussing is rather dumb. Busting your kid for sexting? I see nothing wrong with it. I think this is a borderline issue. We have the responsibility of the parent vs. the right to the well-being of a child. I, personally, would probably just keep it to monitoring text messages. GPS tracking is a bit useless, and only makes the child feel like they can't be trusted. Even though a child in general ought not be taken at face value, they should feel as if their parents trust them. Me, personally, I'd only use this information in the gravest circumstances. If your kid is into pot (Let's get this out of the way, I have no problem with pot but it's not for children) or alcohol, then yeah you need to sit them down and tell them that while these things are fun to use, they can be damaging and can fuck up your life if you let them. Beers with your buds or a puff off a roach once in a blue moon isn't that bad, but keep it down. If it becomes a problem, then we start turning into mega asshole parent. On another note, I've knew quite a few model children in high school. They were the kids that people want to have. Yet their parents strictly controlled their lives and wouldn't let them do things like have boyfriends or such (it usually doesn't work the other way around,) and had gps devices in their cars and this sort of thing. It's baffling how some parents use these as proactive measures -- it seems as if some people are just control freaks. I knew this one particular girl who was pretty much built to fuck, body built for porn. Yet she was the sweetest, most pious and innnocent girl of her age I ever knew; the former sentence might just be why her folks were so strict. I guess if my daughter was wet-dream material, I'd keep her on a tight leash too.
They have the right to keep track of her for emergency situations. She is their responsibility and they feel this is one way of taking care of her. Underage, that's how it goes. Realistically, her having the tracker isn't going to affect her day to day very much at all. Stop making it out to sound so terrible.
[QUOTE=Irkalla;42708843] On another note, I've knew quite a few model children in high school. They were the kids that people want to have. Yet their parents strictly controlled their lives and wouldn't let them do things like have boyfriends or such (it usually doesn't work the other way around,) and had gps devices in their cars and this sort of thing. It's baffling how some parents use these as proactive measures -- it seems as if some people are just control freaks. I knew this one particular girl who was pretty much built to fuck, body built for porn. Yet she was the sweetest, most pious and innnocent girl of her age I ever knew; the former sentence might just be why her folks were so strict. I guess if my daughter was wet-dream material, I'd keep her on a tight leash too.[/QUOTE] Most kids like this get totally screwed once they finally have the freedom to fuck, drink, and smoke; I've seen it happen to all of the 'perfect' Mormon kids that graduate from HS.
i don't suppose she could just turn off the gps in the settings, i mean how else is it gonna send locational data? it's not like you even really need it on in the first place unless you get lost
[QUOTE=Alpha 1-1;42694606]So, my new girlfriend told me she has a tracking device in her phone. Her biological mom has demonstrated that it works, and apparently my girlfriend's Mom, step-mom and father all have access to it. I'm pretty sure it's a third party application installed on her Galaxy S3, not the Verizon family plan, because her mom sees it on her computer and isn't on the same phone plan as my girlfriend. She can't see it in the apps list, so it's apparently hidden. Her mom is a fucking nutter, she also tracks her boyfriend AND has access to the records of all of his calls. This is so close to big brother it's not even funny. She can't visit me on the weekdays because we live too far away, and I can't drive there then. Visiting on the weekends is hard because she either has to be at my house with people constantly bugging and/or monitoring us, and it's even WORSE at hers. This combined with all of this NSA horse shit that's been going down is making me feel more and more like Big Brother's already here. Even if you don't have any ideas of what to do about it, I thought you guys would find this interesting/I wanted to rant about it. This is just so fucking despicable it's not even funny. So, ideas? Comments?[/QUOTE] Proably already been said, but use a custom Android ROM. [url]http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development[/url] Find the one that suits her and install it. The XDA Developers forum is great for finding out how to do that.
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