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i didn't get accepted for this one job would it be better to some volunteer work and maybe improve some things like certificates like renew or update them and try again one or two month's later?

For anyone who knows, how the fuck do you get a job in media without any kind of demo reel? Anything good that I've worked on is either a fanfilm or privatized for one reason or another.

Could you make one? Record lines at home, or rent out a recording space for a day if you don't have a suitable space? [editline]18th July 2016[/editline] Or possibly contact the people you've worked with previously and ask for permission to use clips from their content in your demo reel?

Sorry, was in a bit of a pessimistic mood last night. Pulled my shit together, built a website out of what I could use and applied to the job. Fingers crossed.

Good luck!

i got rejected from a job ( I think I was maybe missing a a certificate or it was borderline near being expired ) anyways if i go a renew/upgrade a bunch of stuff and come back week or two later would that be okay or should hold off a little longer so it doesn't come off as desperate

I'm a little worried, honestly. I was told that my application was "approved" and that I'd be contacted by the hiring principal at the campus I applied for, but I'm not sure if "approved" was just that I was approved for a smaller pool of applicants or what... Apparently the people go back into the district and campus offices on the 20th which I would imagine, since they told me the job starts on the 25th. I'm just hoping they get back to me.. I would think someone would've contacted me more than a week ahead of time though. [editline]18th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=theevilldeadII;50732693]i got rejected from a job ( I think I was maybe missing a a certificate or it was borderline near being expired ) anyways if i go a renew/upgrade a bunch of stuff and come back week or two later would that be okay or should hold off a little longer so it doesn't come off as desperate[/QUOTE] What sort of job was it? I generally wouldn't apply twice within that short amount of time, especially if they specifically told you no. Generally, they keep your information for at least a few months, so they'll know that they rejected you last time. Better yet would be to look for a similar job at another place entirely.

[QUOTE=Pascall;50732848]I [editline]18th July 2016[/editline] What sort of job was it? I generally wouldn't apply twice within that short amount of time, especially if they specifically told you no. Generally, they keep your information for at least a few months, so they'll know that they rejected you last time. Better yet would be to look for a similar job at another place entirely.[/QUOTE] it was warehousing ( but good place ) I guess I can go back there in 6 months? and work somewhere els?

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50732579]Good luck![/QUOTE] As long as they're not looking specifically for people still IN school, I should be well qualified for it.

[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;50733076]it was warehousing ( but good place ) I guess I can go back there in 6 months? and work somewhere els?[/QUOTE] No I mean like- Go find another warehouse to work at. Not that one. If you'd qualify for warehouse work with your updated credentials, then you'll likely have different options at other businesses with warehouses nearby. Unless that's the only warehouse near you.

oh well dame I guess i'll do that then

I'm going in for a job interview with Kroger tomorrow, has anyone here worked there before and can tell me what the interview and work experience was like? This would be my first job if I get it.

I'm at a crossroads. There's a new restaurant being built out right now in Denver NC, and it partly has my name on it, if I want a position there (as sous chef). It's guaranteed to make more money than I make now, plus I will have a percentage of ownership, which is far more than I'll ever have where I currently work, and the hours will probably be better. Better work environment, too, and I'll be working under an executive chef who could teach me literally anything I would ever want to know about food. The only issue with taking this new job is that I have to leave my current job. My boss built me up from nothing, gave me a shot to work having no experience or education, and now I'm doing pretty well. I am not ungrateful in the least. I just also know that I am currently at the highest possible position at the restaurant where I work, and I will never achieve more if I continue to work there. This man needs me, and I hate to leave him because of what he has done for me, but I need to advance my life. I need to make more money. In culinary, the owner can never afford to pay you what you're worth. By that I mean, let's say hypothetically you're generating $100 per hour in revenue. Just to keep the lights on, an owner couldn't afford to pay you any more than $30 per hour. For him to give you even half of it means he can't afford to keep the doors open. It is what it is. That means that in order to be truly successful, I'll need to work for myself, which means I need to be at least part owner, which is what this new job opportunity is presenting. It's a hard thing to do, though. I don't even know how to approach the topic. I love my current boss, he's done more for me in the three years that he's known me than my actual parents have done for me during my entire life. I owe him quite a lot. And I'm up for a raise soon. How do I go to him and say hey I'm leaving, sorry? I was thinking when we sit down and discuss my raise, I would submit to him the offer that has been given to me in writing, including the date when the restaurant is planned to be opened (when I would be leaving), and say hey thanks for the opportunity, but it is what it is, I gotta leave. But that's so cold. I kinda have to be an asshole here and I don't really feel good about it and there's not really any way around it, and it's only for myself, it's totally selfish, but I have to be, at some point, or I'll never take care of myself.

[QUOTE=J Paul;50753647]I'm at a crossroads. There's a new restaurant being built out right now in Denver NC, and it partly has my name on it, if I want a position there (as sous chef). It's guaranteed to make more money than I make now, plus I will have a percentage of ownership, which is far more than I'll ever have where I currently work, and the hours will probably be better. Better work environment, too, and I'll be working under an executive chef who could teach me literally anything I would ever want to know about food. The only issue with taking this new job is that I have to leave my current job. My boss built me up from nothing, gave me a shot to work having no experience or education, and now I'm doing pretty well. I am not ungrateful in the least. I just also know that I am currently at the highest possible position at the restaurant where I work, and I will never achieve more if I continue to work there. This man needs me, and I hate to leave him because of what he has done for me, but I need to advance my life. I need to make more money. In culinary, the owner can never afford to pay you what you're worth. By that I mean, let's say hypothetically you're generating $100 per hour in revenue. Just to keep the lights on, an owner couldn't afford to pay you any more than $30 per hour. For him to give you even half of it means he can't afford to keep the doors open. It is what it is. That means that in order to be truly successful, I'll need to work for myself, which means I need to be at least part owner, which is what this new job opportunity is presenting. It's a hard thing to do, though. I don't even know how to approach the topic. I love my current boss, he's done more for me in the three years that he's known me than my actual parents have done for me during my entire life. I owe him quite a lot. And I'm up for a raise soon. How do I go to him and say hey I'm leaving, sorry? I was thinking when we sit down and discuss my raise, I would submit to him the offer that has been given to me in writing, including the date when the restaurant is planned to be opened (when I would be leaving), and say hey thanks for the opportunity, but it is what it is, I gotta leave. But that's so cold. I kinda have to be an asshole here and I don't really feel good about it and there's not really any way around it, and it's only for myself, it's totally selfish, but I have to be, at some point, or I'll never take care of myself.[/QUOTE] Do you want to halt your progress to avoid hurting someone's feelings? I get that, it's not the best. But perhaps he won't be hurt at all, he could be proud of you being part owner in a restaurant Stop overthinking it and just go for it, I believe he'll understand

I have to agree. Your decision to join the new restaurant is the right professional move, and while your current boss will probably be sad to see you go, I should hope he wouldn't take it personally. Ask him if there's anything you can do to help ease the transition. I'm assuming you have some time before the new restaurant opens, since it still being built, so with this much notice your boss should have ample time to make a smooth switch to a new chef, right? Maybe you could help with interviewing and training your replacement before you go?

Oh yeah I'm currently training people now. It's a revolving door. There is always a need for more people so I am always training someone to some extent. So yeah I'm going to help as much as humanly possible between now and October to get him a working replacement for me. It's the least I can do. I wish I could do more, but yeah, it is the right move for me. Even if the new restaurant fails, it'll be success or failure on my own terms, I won't be working for someone else, and that's preferable to just stagnating under someone else.

[QUOTE=Kite_shugo;50538693]On the hunt for my first real apartment; so much money[/QUOTE] update on this: found an apartment. Perfect place, was able to get a private lease with someone for an amazing price. Have been moved in for about 2 weeks now, and I can say that living on my own for the first time is fucking weird. But I love it a lot. The freedom is great, and I think I'll be able to adjust to budgeting rather ok.

I have problems with expenses, how do I tell myself to save money?

[QUOTE=The bird Man;50777613]I have problems with expenses, how do I tell myself to save money?[/QUOTE] Track it, especially with a budgeting app like YNAB 4. Actually seeing your money and its specific usage really puts things in perspectives and makes it easier to visualize the items you're spending that are more or less a waste.

[QUOTE=vizard38;50777641]Track it, especially with a budgeting app like YNAB 4. Actually seeing your money and its specific usage really puts things in perspectives and makes it easier to visualize the items you're spending that are more or less a waste.[/QUOTE] My bank's app (Wells Fargo) does this automatically (at least for any debit card purchases - don't use cash) and I've found it useful, but not a complete solution. To look and see where your budget went is great for a moment of self-reflection, but when you've already spent that money, it doesn't help the issue of having already wasted your money. You need to take proactive steps. When you're looking at shit you want to buy, you need to be able to objectively analyze what it is and what you have coming in and how much of your budget that will take up. Being able to project into the future is very important as an adult. Like, for example, friend of mine wanted to spend 50 bucks at the grocery store last night. I give him a ride there and dude picks up a 5 dollar pack of cookies. I'm like, dude, that's literally ten percent of your overall forecasted budget here, just for some sugar. You could eat for a week if you bought real food with that instead. Either you exceed your budget, or you waste part of it, there's no positives. You can apply that thinking anywhere. So there's a game that's 20 bucks but you're only going to have 200 of income for the next week or so? Guess what, you're not buying a game. Sorry. Everyone's got a steam library full of shit they've never launched yet, play one of those instead, you're broke. For me personally I consider myself broke if I have any less than 3x what I need to thrive for three months. Not scratching by, but to continue living like I do now. If I don't have 3 months living expenses, I can't afford to go out. I also apply this thinking in smaller scale, like even to individual dinners. If we're going out to dinner tonight, I need to be able to afford 3x that dinner for me to be able to feel good about spending the money on it. So for me to have a 50 dollar dinner with my girlfriend, I need to actually have 150 dollars of disposable income in order for me to consider myself as being able to afford that. It works for me to the extent that I'm the guy everyone else calls to borrow money from when they've fucked up their own money.

One thing that I heard helps a lot of people is having their money in cash. It's a lot easier to spend money on a card or from a bank account if you're not visibly seeing it dwindle away. I mean obviously you can squirrel some stuff away in a bank savings account or maybe not pull out ALL your cash but idk what it is when I have cash I'm a lot more reluctant to spend it than what I have on my card. It's a good way to be like "man I'm using all this money maybe I should slow down" because you can physically notice yourself handing over the bills.

[QUOTE=Pascall;50777893]One thing that I heard helps a lot of people is having their money in cash. It's a lot easier to spend money on a card or from a bank account if you're not visibly seeing it dwindle away. I mean obviously you can squirrel some stuff away in a bank savings account or maybe not pull out ALL your cash but idk what it is when I have cash I'm a lot more reluctant to spend it than what I have on my card. It's a good way to be like "man I'm using all this money maybe I should slow down" because you can physically notice yourself handing over the bills.[/QUOTE] This is a good method. My uncle takes it a step farther and uses cash envelopes for everything because that's the way that he keeps track of everything best. I tried using cards for bills/gas and cash for everything else at one point. I set my weekly cap to $100 (yours could be different), and would only take out enough cash to fill my wallet to $100, and I wouldn't go back to the ATM. It works, but you have to resist making large purchases with your card, and you have to keep a budget in mind.

Oh yeah that's also a method. There are tons of videos on using the envelope method that might help. Give it a look on Youtube!

Just remember that these are all just methods. It all starts with less "splurging" on things. You might think that $30 on X isn't much, but it adds up when you add $40 on Y, $20 on A, and $60 on Z.

Why not just have a second card with no overdraft functioning as a buffer between your spendings and your bank account. That way you keep track of what you spend because your card can get declined if you don't manually re fill it, +you save countless trips to the ATM because it can be done online. works for me:)

[QUOTE=kaskade700;50779183]Why not just have a second card with no overdraft functioning as a buffer between your spendings and your bank account. That way you keep track of what you spend because your card can get declined if you don't manually re fill it, +you save countless trips to the ATM because it can be done online. works for me:)[/QUOTE] I do the same thing, basically. I keep a separate account for bills and savings, and only keep enough in my primary account for my fun-money, food, and gas.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50779230]I do the same thing, basically. I keep a separate account for bills and savings, and only keep enough in my primary account for my fun-money, food, and gas.[/QUOTE] I'm about to go open a second bank account for the same thing. Seems like a great idea

Hey guys, I've just graduated high school and currently taking a gap year to get my life in shape. What are some things you'd recommend I know before going off to college and starting life on my own? Thanks!

[QUOTE=J Paul;50753647]I'm at a crossroads. There's a new restaurant being built out right now in Denver NC, and it partly has my name on it, if I want a position there (as sous chef). It's guaranteed to make more money than I make now, plus I will have a percentage of ownership, which is far more than I'll ever have where I currently work, and the hours will probably be better. Better work environment, too, and I'll be working under an executive chef who could teach me literally anything I would ever want to know about food. The only issue with taking this new job is that I have to leave my current job. My boss built me up from nothing, gave me a shot to work having no experience or education, and now I'm doing pretty well. I am not ungrateful in the least. I just also know that I am currently at the highest possible position at the restaurant where I work, and I will never achieve more if I continue to work there. This man needs me, and I hate to leave him because of what he has done for me, but I need to advance my life. I need to make more money. In culinary, the owner can never afford to pay you what you're worth. By that I mean, let's say hypothetically you're generating $100 per hour in revenue. Just to keep the lights on, an owner couldn't afford to pay you any more than $30 per hour. For him to give you even half of it means he can't afford to keep the doors open. It is what it is. That means that in order to be truly successful, I'll need to work for myself, which means I need to be at least part owner, which is what this new job opportunity is presenting. It's a hard thing to do, though. I don't even know how to approach the topic. I love my current boss, he's done more for me in the three years that he's known me than my actual parents have done for me during my entire life. I owe him quite a lot. And I'm up for a raise soon. How do I go to him and say hey I'm leaving, sorry? I was thinking when we sit down and discuss my raise, I would submit to him the offer that has been given to me in writing, including the date when the restaurant is planned to be opened (when I would be leaving), and say hey thanks for the opportunity, but it is what it is, I gotta leave. But that's so cold. I kinda have to be an asshole here and I don't really feel good about it and there's not really any way around it, and it's only for myself, it's totally selfish, but I have to be, at some point, or I'll never take care of myself.[/QUOTE] From my perspective, I feel like if he's a boss/leader then he knows full well that one day as his apprentice/employee that you will leave him. There wouldn't be much of a point in having a mentor if you stayed under their wing forever. All the great chefs were in your same exact position. It sounds like the opportunity to be part-owner of a restaurant is an incredible opportunity for you, and I think you should take it. Write your boss a letter explaining the situation and how grateful you are for his guidance, and invite him to your restaurant once you got things together so he can see how far his teachings have taken you. If it was me, I'd be more proud than upset that you're leaving. [editline]26th July 2016[/editline] Isn't having your own Restaurant basically the ultimate end-goal for most people in the culinary field, anyway? You're almost there. [editline]26th July 2016[/editline] Also, I just now realized that there's a Denver in North Carolina. huh. [editline]26th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=HumbleTH;50779385]Hey guys, I've just graduated high school and currently taking a gap year to get my life in shape. What are some things you'd recommend I know before going off to college and starting life on my own? Thanks![/QUOTE] Learn about proper financial management and investments. Even if you have no/very little money to spend. It's invaluable stuff to know.

I wouldn't take a gap year, waste of time to be honest. College isn't that hard unless your some very hard engineering degree or being a doctor, but even then your first year isn't going to be difficult anyways.