Firearms XIV - All the Calicos Are Over There

[Lone_Star94]

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;52105621]So. Tax refund coming in.

Should I buy an Aimpoint PRO and shift the Vortex and magnifier to the PTR, or should I just say fuck it and get the PTR an actual scope?[/QUOTE]
Get a real scope.

[Provost]

[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;52105630]Get a real scope.[/QUOTE]

Know any decent .308 scopes? I'm looking for something with 1x-4x magnification (fixed if possible) and an illuminated reticle. Budget ceiling is $500.

I know the Vortex Strike Eagle fits that description pretty well, but the BDC is set up for 5.56. I'll go with that if there's nothing else, but if I can get one specifically for .308, that'd make my week.

[Lone_Star94]

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;52105708]Know any decent .308 scopes? I'm looking for something with 1x-4x magnification (fixed if possible) and an illuminated reticle. Budget ceiling is $500.

I know the Vortex Strike Eagle fits that description pretty well, but the BDC is set up for 5.56. I'll go with that if there's nothing else, but if I can get one specifically for .308, that'd make my week.[/QUOTE]
Nikon black force1000 is $400 MSRP, 1-4x magnification

[URL="http://www.nikonsportoptics.com/en/nikon-products/riflescopes/black-force1000.html#tab-ProductDetail-ProductTabs-TechSpecs"]http://www.nikonsportoptics.com/en/nikon-products/riflescopes/black-force1000.html#tab-ProductDetail-ProductTabs-TechSpecs

[/URL]The thing with BDCs is that it is regulated for [B]1 specific load[/B]. You can still use it for other calibers or loads, but you have to put in the time to learn what each mark is "zeroed" for with your chosen round. Many .223, 5.56 scopes have BDCs for barrel lengths that aren't the same as the gun you are using.

[Provost]

[QUOTE=SGTSpartans;52105314][url]https://www.classicfirearms.com/arbarrel18parkerized1in8heavybarrel[/url]

This barrel..

or

[url]https://www.andersonrifles.com/product/18-stainless-heavy-barrel-with-straight-flutes/#reviews[/url]

4150 vs Stainless basically. Both same chambering twist etc. I'd love to have gotten a 16" barrel but cant find anything that meets my fancy and MD regulation besides a basic barrel.[/QUOTE]

Unless you're planning on exposing it to large amounts of rain, snow, salt and other corrosives, I wouldn't get stainless, personally. Looks tacky.

[editline]14th April 2017[/editline]

[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;52105721]Nikon black force1000 is $400 MSRP, 1-4x magnification

[URL="http://www.nikonsportoptics.com/en/nikon-products/riflescopes/black-force1000.html#tab-ProductDetail-ProductTabs-TechSpecs"]http://www.nikonsportoptics.com/en/nikon-products/riflescopes/black-force1000.html#tab-ProductDetail-ProductTabs-TechSpecs

[/URL]The thing with BDCs is that it is regulated for [B]1 specific load[/B]. You can still use it for other calibers or loads, but you have to put in the time to learn what each mark is "zeroed" for with your chosen round. Many .223, 5.56 scopes have BDCs for barrel lengths that aren't the same as the gun you are using.[/QUOTE]

Hm.

Fuck it, I'll go for the Strike Eagle. As long as zeroes. Any suggestions on a good mount that'll fit the PTR?

[PandaJuggernaut]

[QUOTE=SGTSpartans;52105314][URL]https://www.classicfirearms.com/arbarrel18parkerized1in8heavybarrel[/URL]

This barrel..

or

[URL]https://www.andersonrifles.com/product/18-stainless-heavy-barrel-with-straight-flutes/#reviews[/URL]

4150 vs Stainless basically. Both same chambering twist etc. I'd love to have gotten a 16" barrel but cant find anything that meets my fancy and MD regulation besides a basic barrel.[/QUOTE]

How do you feel about warsport barrels? [URL]http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1018189314/war-sport-barrel-ar-15-223-wylde-hbar-contour-1-in-8-twist-chrome-moly-melonite-coat[/URL] 16" HBAR contour mid-length gas .223 wylde chamber

[SGT-Spartans]

[QUOTE=PandaJuggernaut;52106331]How do you feel about warsport barrels? [URL]http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1018189314/war-sport-barrel-ar-15-223-wylde-hbar-contour-1-in-8-twist-chrome-moly-melonite-coat[/URL] 16" HBAR contour mid-length gas .223 wylde chamber[/QUOTE]

PERFECT.

THANK YOU!!!!!!

[PandaJuggernaut]

[QUOTE=SGTSpartans;52106702]PERFECT.

THANK YOU!!!!!![/QUOTE]

No problem glad it'll work for ya so ya can stick it to MD even harder lol

[FuckOffEuroTrash]

theres a used SCAR H in my area for $4k. What a tempting deal.

[Grenadiac]

There's a '69 Fury with a running 383 that needs brake work and glass in my area for $4k. Why would you ever buy a brand new plastigun for $4000 when you could buy a sweet classic muscle car instead?

[Zephyrs]

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[FuckOffEuroTrash]

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;52110239]There's a '69 Fury with a running 383 that needs brake work and glass in my area for $4k. Why would you ever buy a brand new plastigun for $4000 when you could buy a sweet classic muscle car instead?[/QUOTE]

I'll take "Sarcasm" for $400, alex

[DaCommie1]

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;52110239]There's a '69 Fury with a running 383 that needs brake work and glass in my area for $4k. Why would you ever buy a brand new plastigun for $4000 when you could buy a sweet classic muscle car instead?[/QUOTE]

Because I wouldn't have to put $10,000 in work/parts and pay an ungodly amount of insurance every year on the plastigun.

[Grenadiac]

[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;52110253]I'll take "Sarcasm" for $400, alex[/QUOTE]

Hard to distinguish sarcasm when people actually pay that kind of money for those things.

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;52110257]Because I wouldn't have to put $10,000 in work/parts and pay an ungodly amount of insurance every year on the plastigun.[/QUOTE]

Nor would you on the Fury. :v: At most you'd be looking at another couple grand in parts to get it roadworthy if you really went crazy unless you were trying to restore the thing. Insurance on classic cars is dirt cheap.

[DaCommie1]

There's no such thing as cheap insurance for someone under 25 living in the largest city in the country. I'd be paying $3500 yearly on a Mazda 3.

[dude709]

Actually insurance companies automatically value cars more than 20 or so years old as beaters and charge as such. For example liability insurance on my 87 dodge diplomat was $50 a month while dads van was almost $100 a month.

[DaCommie1]

Not in Ontario. Cars older than 20 years require the company to inspect the car and provide a quote following inspection, and cars older than 30 years get registered as "historical" vehicles, and immediately the insurance jumps on them because of the "historical significance."

[Lone_Star94]

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;52110794]I'm picking up a PS90 on Monday. Local gun shop has it for $1299 plus tax. Anywhere I can get it cheaper?[/QUOTE]
No where else is it cheaper unless you want to buy it used. That is the price to grab it. So pony up for mags and ammo.

[FuckOffEuroTrash]

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;52110262]Hard to distinguish sarcasm when people actually pay that kind of money for those things.
.[/QUOTE]

Saying that 4 grand on a used SCAR is a good deal is insanelt sarcastic

[editline]16th April 2017[/editline]

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;52110794]I'm picking up a PS90 on Monday. Local gun shop has it for $1299 plus tax. Anywhere I can get it cheaper?[/QUOTE]

Gunbroker

[SGT-Spartans]

Oh boooooy cant wait to post my AR-15 build in about 3 weeks...

Heres what I have sitting neatly on my workbench:

AeroPrecision M4E1 Enhanced Upper
AeroPrecision Gen 2 Quantum Rails (M-LOK)
Magpul MBUIS Gen 2
WMD NIB-X BCG
[URL="http://www.midwayusa.com/product/108329/war-sport-barrel-ar-15-223-wylde-hbar-contour-1-in-8-twist-chrome-moly-melonite-coat"]War Sport 16" .223 Wylde 1:8 [/URL]
LANTAC Gas Tube AR-15 Nitride
Yankee Hill Low Profile Clamp-on gas block
BCM Mod 4 Charging Handle
VG6 Precision Epsilon 556 Muzzle Device
PSA Buffer Tube Kit
PSA Classic ACT LPK

And a all the tools of course.

Can't wait, been compiling these parts for about 5 months.

[teslacoil]

I've got a very good condition VKT M39, an assembled polymer AR lower, an 18" SOCOM 1:8 .223Wylde barrel, a 16" M4 Contour 1:8 .223wylde barrel, an Anderson lower parts kit, and a stripped magnesium lower waiting for me at Elite Shooting Sports for me to sign paperwork on and take home :D

Also having a VLTOR upper and butt loads of 77gr .223 sent my way. Can't wait to play with firearm legos.

[Pointman]

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;52094018]That's nothing.

From discord:

[t]https://imgroll.net/images/2017/04/10/12993620_1268968163132259_6301618916114239479_n.jpg[/t]

:nope:[/QUOTE]

Is that AFG on the stock supposed to be a grip?

Fucking incredible

[darkrei9n]

So I'm about to put together my first AR-15. Not completely sure of what I'm doing but so far here's what I put together. Hoping to order it all within the next few days.

[URL="http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/lower-receivers/ar-15-sts-lower-receiver-sku100015248-68784-145387.aspx"]Lower Receiver[/URL]
[URL="http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/upper-receivers/ar-15-m16-stripped-upper-receiver-black-w-markings-sku100010612-54395-105707.aspx"]Upper Receiver[/URL]
[URL="http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/barrel-parts/rifle-barrels/20-chf-government-rifle-5-56x45mm-1-7-rh-twist-sku100700164-71548-154248.aspx"]Barrel[/URL]
[URL="http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/sights/sight-sets/ar-15-m16-mbus-gen-2-sight-set-black-sku100006941-44044-99529.aspx"]Sights[/URL]
[URL="http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/gas-system-parts/gas-blocks/ar-15-gas-block-slotted-low-profile-750-steel-black-sku100010657-84950-105784.aspx"]Gas Block[/URL]
[URL="http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/bolt-parts/charging-handle-parts/charging-handles/ar-15-m16-bcm-charging-handle-medium-sku100005369-32076-62398.aspx"]Charging Handle[/URL]
[URL="http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/bolt-parts/bolt-carrier-groups/m16-bolt-carrier-group-sku100020758-87124-188510.aspx"]Bolt Carrier Group[/URL]
[URL="http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/forend-amp-handguard-parts/handguards-amp-rails/diamond-series-handguard-rifle-sku100004314-27474-53352.aspx"]Rail[/URL]
[URL="http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/stock-parts/buttstocks/ar-15-stock-assy-collapsible-mil-spec-blk-sku080000941-44659-99038.aspx"]Stock[/URL]

[URL="http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/parts-kits/lower-parts-kits/ar-15-lower-parts-kits-sku231115003-24955-13040.aspx"]Lower Parts Kit[/URL]
[URL="http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/parts-kits/upper-parts-kits/dpms-upper-receiver-parts-kit-ff-rifle-length-sku080000593-73525-53776.aspx"]Upper Parts Kit[/URL]

I've probably screwed something up here. This will actually be the first gun I'll buy or own.

[SGT-Spartans]

[QUOTE=darkrei9n;52114683]So I'm about to put together my first AR-15. Not completely sure of what I'm doing but so far here's what I put together. Hoping to order it all within the next few days.

[URL="http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/lower-receivers/ar-15-sts-lower-receiver-sku100015248-68784-145387.aspx"]Lower Receiver[/URL]
[URL="http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/upper-receivers/ar-15-m16-stripped-upper-receiver-black-w-markings-sku100010612-54395-105707.aspx"]Upper Receiver[/URL]
[URL="http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/barrel-parts/rifle-barrels/20-chf-government-rifle-5-56x45mm-1-7-rh-twist-sku100700164-71548-154248.aspx"]Barrel[/URL]
[URL="http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/sights/sight-sets/ar-15-m16-mbus-gen-2-sight-set-black-sku100006941-44044-99529.aspx"]Sights[/URL]
[URL="http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/gas-system-parts/gas-blocks/ar-15-gas-block-slotted-low-profile-750-steel-black-sku100010657-84950-105784.aspx"]Gas Block[/URL]
[URL="http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/bolt-parts/charging-handle-parts/charging-handles/ar-15-m16-bcm-charging-handle-medium-sku100005369-32076-62398.aspx"]Charging Handle[/URL]\
[URL="http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/bolt-parts/bolt-carrier-groups/m16-bolt-carrier-group-sku100020758-87124-188510.aspx"]Bolt Carrier Group[/URL]
[URL="http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/forend-amp-handguard-parts/handguards-amp-rails/15-ergonomic-modular-rail-v2-black-sku100017377-78085-164058.aspx"]Rail[/URL]
[URL="http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/stock-parts/buttstocks/ar-15-stock-assy-collapsible-mil-spec-blk-sku080000941-44659-99038.aspx"]Stock[/URL]

[URL="http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/parts-kits/lower-parts-kits/ar-15-lower-parts-kits-sku231115003-24955-13040.aspx"]Lower Parts Kit[/URL]
[URL="http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/parts-kits/upper-parts-kits/dpms-upper-receiver-parts-kit-ff-rifle-length-sku080000593-73525-53776.aspx"]Upper Parts Kit[/URL]

I've probably screwed something up here. This will actually be the first gun I'll buy or own.[/QUOTE]

Granite Ridge has MBUS for 60 dollars rn, amazon for 70. Do some better bargain hunting.

[Levelog]

I got mine for 50 on midway but that was during black friday

[darkrei9n]

[QUOTE=SGTSpartans;52114827]Granite Ridge has MBUS for 60 dollars rn, amazon for 70. Do some better bargain hunting.[/QUOTE]

Currently I'm more worried about whether everything actually goes together rather than the prices.

[GarrettFox]

You are building an AR for your first gun? Why not go with a manufacturer at first? That way you have a baseline and can figure out what you want.

[the rifleman]

I would not trust myself to build a gun as my first buy.

[Zombini]

Definitely not recommended to build an AR especially if it's your first gun entirely. Go look around gun shops and online, there's some really decent ARs for under $700, maybe even below $600. I personally got a Sig M400 carbine length AR-15 from Walmart for ~$1000, before Walmart decided to be assholes in their sporting goods department and remove all semi-automatics. It's really not any cheaper to build one unless you're absolutely going for bottom dollar. If there's something you don't like about the one you'd buy, get the parts and swap it out.

If you're 100% deadset on building your own, then here's some extremely important advice if you haven't heard it already. Use a torque wrench when screwing the barrel into the upper. Check info on how much torque, and tighten it to as close as possible to that number, otherwise you'll have a hell of a time getting groups under 3 inches at any range. It's a really common issue I've seen with people that build their own ARs. Everything else is pretty simple, but double-check the hell out of things before finalizing any permanent connections. It also helps to get an armorer's multi-tool and an AR gun vise. Good luck if you decide to build one.

[Hosenfuhrer]

Sitrep:

[IMG]https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3932/33283284683_e8647e9ebd_z.jpg[/IMG]
[img]https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2817/33283284423_9ff3642464_z.jpg[/img]
[img]https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2918/34094849375_5c1ebd5daf_z.jpg[/img]

More work needs to be done on the receiver and the barrel, sandblasting equipment being on the to-buy list. A new front sight is on it's way. The stock needs to be refitted to the receiver, probably with Acraglas to remove play.

[Grenadiac]

It's a clean blasting job but oh god no why did you do that

What possessed you to strip the original finish off a vintage shotgun that's as rare as hen's teeth