• Firearms XIV - All the Calicos Are Over There
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[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;52146959]Unless you want a vault door to complete the aesthetic, you can find solid steel doors commercially pretty easily. I service jails and cop shops and their armories are kept behind a normal looking office door, but its solid steel with a huge deadbolt.[/QUOTE] I'll be picking up a used steel door, and then refinishing it and cutting it down to shape and fabricating heavy duty hinges. I'll then reinforce the door itself, and build a fully steel frame for the opening. The locks will be three israeli mul-t-locks. Simply going to be security through layers. Anyone with a cordless grinder and enough time can get through about anything, but with a full surveillance system, hard wired security system and monitoring and being four blocks from the local PD I can't imagine anyone can get through all those layers of protection in enough time. I'll also have the lockers locked as well.
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;52146969]Do you have it in 9mm or .357 sig? and why did you choose whichever you got?[/QUOTE] 9mm because .357 Sig is a dumb gimmicky round that costs way too much money. Also because my Sig was made entirely in Germany and 9mm was the only calibre such a Sig was available in.
So someone went and bought one of those HERA stocks we were creaming ourselves over not too long ago. [url]http://imgur.com/a/Hbycs[/url] [img]http://i.imgur.com/Qz4EWx7.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/a2NXqFx.jpg[/img] Not gonna lie, that actually looks disgusting.
So it's all just hollow injection-moulded plastic?
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;52147031]So it's all just hollow injection-moulded plastic?[/QUOTE] Apparently. Looks like the inside of a nerf gun, to be honest.
Jesus, thanks for taking one for the team. I kept talking myself out of buying one. If I'm spending that kind of money on a thumbhole stock I expect Magpul quality at least. Definitely won't be picking one up now, that's a real bummer. Does it have any redeeming qualities? Is it comfortable? e: oh, you didn't buy it, someone else did :v: That's what I get for not paying attention.
Dear jesus that is painful to look at. it's also absolutely ridiculous they want 120$ for it with that level of "QC"
So Norwegia is letting you build a straight-pull AR? Or are you building a British "lever-action" AR?
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;52143619] [t]http://i.cubeupload.com/3DZygi.jpg[/t] [/QUOTE] [t]https://i.gyazo.com/ff836f047ef1e6e6f1389b97e9e81c08.png[/t] .45 huh? [i]Incredible..[/i] The feeding ramp is polished to a mirror sheen, the slides been reinforced and the interlock with the frame has been tightened for added precision. The sight system is original too, the thumb safety is extended to make it easier on the finger, long type trigger with non slip grooves, a ring hammer, the base of the trigger guard has been ground down for a higher grip. And not only that, nearly every part of this gun had been expertly crafted and customized. Also there was a sale on 10/22's so I finally got one. [t]https://i.gyazo.com/06c25c309c659fc7139d37186452b597.jpg[/t] [sp]I don't use an EO Tech on it for real.[/sp]
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;52148250]straightpull sadly. "lever actions" wouldn't be legal as it would still have a functioning gas system.[/QUOTE] Even if you weld the gas port shut and just remove the gas tube?
Guns are pretty cool: [t]http://i.imgur.com/wtmPEab.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;52149170]since i had to weasel my way to get it approved it's going to have the upper's gas tube hole welded shut and the gas block's set screws staked. gonna take a couple turns off the recoil spring to make it easier to cycle, it'll be a pull and release to load for every round obviously. hopefully the raptor charging handle makes it nicer to breeze than a regular CH. i'd get a britbong handle on the side, but since norwegian laws on transportation requires you to pull out a "vital part" of the gun if you've got it in your trunk and stop on a gas station or store and take it with you. not about to take the whole lower with me every time i stop on my way/to the range, so going to go with regular bolt and the raptor handle. [editline]25th April 2017[/editline] "lever action" in UK gray area laws means the guns where the gas system works, but you have to do two actions of the trigger (pull once to fire, pull again to release bolt and chamber round). this gun will be a straight pull in that you fire, pull bolt back to eject casing, let go of it to chamber new round.[/QUOTE] Eugh, i wouldnt be able to even use an ar if i had touse the disgustig rear charging handle every single shot. I would need to put a side charger on it.
[QUOTE=Zombinie;52149230]Guns are pretty cool: [t]http://i.imgur.com/wtmPEab.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] Ugh, that sten receiver looks.. just.. no. :nope:
[QUOTE=Hosenfuhrer;52149281]Ugh, that sten receiver looks.. just.. no. :nope:[/QUOTE] Yeah this is the receiver before I remove the old remnants, clean it up, and then install the new receiver. (pictured) [t]http://i.imgur.com/mYUvwmk.jpg[/t] What concerns me at this point is re-assembling the trigger mechanism properly. Testing vid: [video]https://youtu.be/3oPGyOqslL0[/video]
Well I dunno, it looks kinda simple to assemble.. the difficult part might be the long trigger spring that attaches to that other spring..
Parts-wise, does anyone know what the rules are for imports from the US to Canada?
The procedure for trigger assembly would be: safety first (as usual, pun not intended), trigger and transfer bar, then lock it with the trigger pin, then the sear with the transfer bar going in front of it, sear pin, the smaller spring with the horizontal piece against the transfer bar, then the trigger spring, then the trigger mechanism cover.
[QUOTE=AtomicWaffle;52149892]Parts-wise, does anyone know what the rules are for imports from the US to Canada?[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.pmddtc.state.gov/regulations_laws/itar.html[/url]
[QUOTE=AtomicWaffle;52149892]Parts-wise, does anyone know what the rules are for imports from the US to Canada?[/QUOTE] Technically there's an exemption to ITAR export controls up to $500 in value of parts, but very few companies will actually bother. Brownells and Numrich are about the only 2. It's easier to find a source in Canada in most cases.
Good news from the ATF! [url]http://freebeacon.com/issues/atf-reverses-controversial-stance-shouldering-ar-15-pistols/[/url]
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;52150879]I'm sorry, I don't think SBRs need to be regulated whatsoever, but this clarification is fucking retarded. Having an AR-15 pistol with a usable stock should be considered an SBR. It isn't a "pistol" just because the stock is DESIGNED to be strapped to the forearm. If I short barrel my PS90 and shoot it with one arm does that make it a pistol?[/QUOTE] I think it's great because now we have a way to have "SBRs" without having to go through the bullshit tax stamp crap. I agree SBR's shouldn't be regulated but for now this gives us an option without having to go through all the BS.
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;52150879]I'm sorry, I don't think SBRs need to be regulated whatsoever, but this clarification is fucking retarded. Having an AR-15 pistol with a usable stock should be considered an SBR. It isn't a "pistol" just because the stock is DESIGNED to be strapped to the forearm. If I short barrel my PS90 and shoot it with one arm does that make it a pistol?[/QUOTE] Nope. Once a rifle, always a rifle, per the law. :v:
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;52150879]I'm sorry, I don't think SBRs need to be regulated whatsoever, but this clarification is fucking retarded. Having an AR-15 pistol with a usable stock should be considered an SBR. It isn't a "pistol" just because the stock is DESIGNED to be strapped to the forearm. If I short barrel my PS90 and shoot it with one arm does that make it a pistol?[/QUOTE] The PS90 example, no. That would still be beaucoup no bueno. If you fix a brace to an AR pistol and remove the strap, or permanently affix it, that also counts as SBRing it. If you put an unmodified pistol brace on an AR pistol and happen to shoulder it, that no longer counts as "remanufacturing". You will not get your shit kicked in because a particular piece of plastic and/or rubber touched the joint between your torso and your arm. While the distinction may not make sense, think of it as the ATF as throwing us a bone. They can't remove SBRs from the NFA, but they can back off enforcement of gray areas like this.
Why are SRBs even illegal? edit: Also can't you just pay to have it be legal for you?
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;52150971]Why are SRBs even illegal?[/quote] Because short barreled rifles and shotguns are tools of the criminal underworld! No law-abiding citizen needs one! [quote]edit: Also can't you just pay to have it be legal for you?[/QUOTE] That's $200 and 6-8 months I don't need to spend. Plus, if I use it for self-defense, it's an NFA-regulated item, which the prosecutor would just love.
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;52150991]That was sarcasm lol I think instead of wasting their time with stupid clarifications like this they should be putting their effort into passing an amendment to the NFA but whatever. I'm sure it'll help a few people.[/QUOTE] They can pass on their recommendations as far as I'm aware, but actually pushing for change isn't their place. That's where pro-2A politicians are supposed to come in.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;52150951]The PS90 example, no. That would still be beaucoup no bueno. If you fix a brace to an AR pistol and remove the strap, or permanently affix it, that also counts as SBRing it. If you put an unmodified pistol brace on an AR pistol and happen to shoulder it, that no longer counts as "remanufacturing". You will not get your shit kicked in because a particular piece of plastic and/or rubber touched the joint between your torso and your arm. While the distinction may not make sense, think of it as the ATF as throwing us a bone. They can't remove SBRs from the NFA, but they can back off enforcement of gray areas like this.[/QUOTE] For this week. Remember. They can write a dissenting letter at any time a-la Sig Brace, and decide to 180° that shit right quick and go backwards with that position until the law is specifically written to OK it. [editline]25th April 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=The Rifleman;52150971]Why are SRBs even illegal? edit: Also can't you just pay to have it be legal for you?[/QUOTE] Historically, because 1920s gangsters liked sawed-off shotguns and really small Thompsons which they could hide under their typical overcoat and spray down illegal bars for being on the wrong side of the projects, holmes. And you can... with an extra $200 on an already expensive part after 6 to God-knows how many months for the ATF to maybe say 'yeah. sure. Fine.'
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;52146985]So someone went and bought one of those HERA stocks we were creaming ourselves over not too long ago. Not gonna lie, that actually looks disgusting.[/QUOTE] That is... absolutely disappointing. Good lord.
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;52150879]I'm sorry, I don't think SBRs need to be regulated whatsoever, but this clarification is fucking retarded. Having an AR-15 pistol with a usable stock should be considered an SBR. It isn't a "pistol" just because the stock is DESIGNED to be strapped to the forearm. If I short barrel my PS90 and shoot it with one arm does that make it a pistol?[/QUOTE] welcome to the ATF where nothing makes sense and your doggo gets shot if you're confused . As far as I'm concerned anything that makes it so I only have to build a 1 stamp "Pistol" as opposed to a 2 stamp "rifle" is A-OK by me I spend way to much money on guns for me to swallow 200$+ and 6 months whenever I want to build a "SBR" the only thing that would make me happier is the repeal of the NFA and passing the HPA I don't see that happening but I can dream
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;52150971]Why are SRBs even illegal? edit: Also can't you just pay to have it be legal for you?[/QUOTE] Because of rampant gun crime caused by prohibition era gangsters. There was a time in the US where you could mail-order yourself a full auto Thompson SMG for like $25 lol. So everything fun had to be regulated with the NFA.
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