• Firearms XIV - All the Calicos Are Over There
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[QUOTE=Grenadiac;52178462]I know a bit by proxy via researching my Mauser. Depends on what you need to know. If I don't know it, I can help you find it. Feel free to add me on Steam[/QUOTE] How would you feel about a bring back, matching Luger? It comes with a letter from 1945 confirming it's the right SN and all. Only thing non matching is the side plate. [img]http://i.imgur.com/lUZFCZo.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;52179090]How would you feel about a bring back, matching Luger? It comes with a letter from 1945 confirming it's the right SN and all. Only thing non matching is the side plate.[/QUOTE] Depends. How much?
[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;52179090]How would you feel about a bring back, matching Luger? It comes with a letter from 1945 confirming it's the right SN and all. Only thing non matching is the side plate.[/QUOTE] I'd want to see better photos before I advised yes or no but if it is what it's being sold as I'd trade a polytech m14 for that in a heartbeat. The capture papers being laminated doesn't lend confidence. Nobody with a collector pistol laminates original documentation.
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;52179096]Depends. How much?[/QUOTE] I'd be trading my polytech m14 I bought for $800 [editline]2nd May 2017[/editline] I mean my polytech is pretty killer, unfired and comes with original box, mags and sling in wrapping and all.
It's still a chicom M14 clone. They're not particularly valuable, hard to find or super good from the factory. The Luger is a hand-fitted historic artisan weapon with 80 years of break-in time that you can shoot without hurting its value. The holster is not original, I hope he isn't claiming it is. What's the year on the pistol? Ultimately you should watch some yt videos, learn the teardown procedure and give it an in-depth examination before you buy to make sure nothing has been force-matched. If it is what it is and the capture papers aren't fudged (it's easy to differentiate old paper from new paper) I'd say go for it, all day.
Fuck I wish I could trade a Chinese M14 for a Luger here.
Here's a bunch [img]http://i.imgur.com/2Ne8t4k.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/uQjIzto.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/9UTKuwG.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/9zICWHT.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/aFerEn5.jpg[/img] [editline]2nd May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Grenadiac;52179113]It's still a chicom M14 clone. They're not particularly valuable, hard to find or super good from the factory. The Luger is a hand-fitted historic artisan weapon with 80 years of break-in time that you can shoot without hurting its value. The holster is not original, I hope he isn't claiming it is. What's the year on the pistol?[/QUOTE] Oh yeah he said it's not. Non matching mag and said he has like 2 more mags
Non-matching mags are common. 1941 production date, capture papers thankfully aren't laminated after all. Looks like a pretty run of the mill Luger, definitely worth more than your M14 with the papers. I'd say go for it if it isn't a dog when you inspect it in person.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;52179113]It's still a chicom M14 clone. They're not particularly valuable, hard to find or super good from the factory. The Luger is a hand-fitted historic artisan weapon with 80 years of break-in time that you can shoot without hurting its value. The holster is not original, I hope he isn't claiming it is. What's the year on the pistol? Ultimately you should watch some yt videos, learn the teardown procedure and give it an in-depth examination before you buy to make sure nothing has been force-matched. If it is what it is and the capture papers aren't fudged (it's easy to differentiate old paper from new paper) I'd say go for it, all day.[/QUOTE] Haven't met him yet but he says he can't verify if the papers are real or not but it's what he got when he said he bought it from an old man. It seems very specific to be forged like the little pencil writing, old font etc but again, I'm no expert. [editline]2nd May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Grenadiac;52179139]Non-matching mags are common. 1941 production date, capture papers thankfully aren't laminated after all. Looks like a pretty run of the mill Luger, definitely worth more than your M14 with the papers. I'd say go for it if it isn't a dog when you inspect it in person.[/QUOTE] 1941 BYF. Sorry replying as fast as I can lol
The paper is the right age but that doesn't mean someone didn't get a blank pad and fill it out. I have seen that a few times, especially with Lugers (which are often dolled up with nonsense markings to add mystery). Forging capture papers is unfortunately pretty common, I don't know if you can verify them with the government anymore. I'm not trying to get you to be paranoid, I think it looks fine, the gun doesn't have any doll-up markings so I think you're probably looking at a good deal, even if the papers were forged. I am just wary of capture papers because I could still buy blank original capture papers and fill them out with a vintage pencil for my C96 and noone would be the wiser. Keep in mind that in the era capture papers did not require you to report the serial number or anything else about the item, only a general description of the thing you were bringing home (not to mention pistols were more often than not just chucked in duffles and never passed through official channels), but if you were faking papers, wouldn't you want to make them seem like they were definitely for the item in question? With that in mind, these are awfully specific, reporting both the serial number and the year. If you ever do sell it, I wouldn't include the capture papers as anything more than a curiosity, leave it up to the buyer to determine what he or she believes. But a Luger for a dinky chicom M14 is a good deal, papers or no.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;52179113]It's still a chicom M14 clone. They're not particularly valuable, hard to find or super good from the factory. The Luger is a hand-fitted historic artisan weapon with 80 years of break-in time that you can shoot without hurting its value. The holster is not original, I hope he isn't claiming it is. What's the year on the pistol? Ultimately you should watch some yt videos, learn the teardown procedure and give it an in-depth examination before you buy to make sure nothing has been force-matched. If it is what it is and the capture papers aren't fudged (it's easy to differentiate old paper from new paper) I'd say go for it, all day.[/QUOTE] Chinesw M14s are still the best M14s out there. Not as valuable as a springfield but runs a lot better. Personally Id make the trade for the Luger, you dont see them in that good of condition that often. Chicoms are kinda tough to find but it is an M14....
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;52179445]Chinesw M14s are still the best M14s out there. Not as valuable as a springfield but runs a lot better. Personally Id make the trade for the Luger, you dont see them in that good of condition that often. Chicoms are kinda tough to find but it is an M14....[/QUOTE] They're actually decent? After Springfield Armory's bullshit, I wouldn't touch an M1A with a ten foot pole, so I might consider one at some point in the future.
[QUOTE=Ridge;52178650][img]http://i.imgur.com/YSYRnyKh.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] [t]https://i.imgur.com/5YDyAB1.jpg[/t] Theres more stuff under the 9mm makarov I swear
My ammo is so mixed and jumbled in various containers that I don't even have just 1 container per calibre.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;52179793]They're actually decent? After Springfield Armory's bullshit, I wouldn't touch an M1A with a ten foot pole, so I might consider one at some point in the future.[/QUOTE] Better than an M1A
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;52181331]what ambi safety for ar15 (that's not $150+ in the US and $400 here)?[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.brownells.no/epages/Norge.sf/no_NO/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Norge/Products/41292100005841/SubProducts/100010701[/url] This one appears to be the equivalent of about $120 for you guys. Dunno about shipping though, and I know you hate dealing with Brownells.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;52181331]what ambi safety for ar15 (that's not $150+ in the US and $400 here)?[/QUOTE] Personally, I'd avoid any that have equivalent length levers as it will dig into your trigger finger. Take your pick: [url]http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/safety-parts/safeties/index.htm?avs%7CMake_3=AR-15&psize=96[/url] [url]http://www.primaryarms.com/MCategories+AR-15-Safety-Selectors/[/url]
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;52181583][url]https://www.brownells.no/epages/Norge.sf/no_NO/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Norge/Products/41292100005841/SubProducts/100010701[/url] This one appears to be the equivalent of about $120 for you guys. Dunno about shipping though, and I know you hate dealing with Brownells.[/QUOTE] Wait, I just realized. That's for the M&P 15-22. I doubt it's compatible with a standard AR. My bad. Try this one instead. DPMS has a good reputation, iirc. [url]https://www.brownells.no/epages/Norge.sf/no_NO/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Norge/Products/05591231015012/SubProducts/231015012[/url]
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;52181612]brownells.no is where I get the rest of my AR parts so I'll order it along with the lower, grip and some other small parts. I was looking at that one, seems pretty okay. i'm still waiting to pay the licensing fee for the barrels (5,56 and 300blk) then i have to wait for the papers themselves to get here then i have to send those to the brownells office then i have to wait for brownells US to send the barrels, toolkit, gas blocks to brownells norway then i have to wait for brownells norway to send it to me and THEN i can have to wait for the gunsmith to fix the uppers and stake the gas blocks, before i can get the papers for the lower, send them in, wait for the lower..................[/QUOTE] You have to have the barrels licensed?
How about this one? It's a 60 degree lever: [url]https://www.brownells.no/epages/Norge.sf/no_NO/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Norge/Products/54684100010789/SubProducts/100010789[/url]
[QUOTE=MAC21500;52181687]You have to have the barrels licensed?[/QUOTE] I mean, I guess it makes sense. No barrel, no functioning firearm. Makes more sense than having the lower receiver be the part that gets tracked and treated like a firearm.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;52181695]4 months and $XXXX in this is what i've got lol [img]http://i.imgur.com/7HMCTyI.jpg[/img] not pictured: 9 alu mags and 4 pmags[/QUOTE] Since you're going to be using the charging handle a lot more than you would on a semi-auto, I'd recommend looking for a higher quality one.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;52181783]Since you're going to be using the charging handle a lot more than you would on a semi-auto, I'd recommend looking for a higher quality one.[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.brownells.no/epages/Norge.sf/no_NO/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Norge/Products/32076100005369/SubProducts/100005369[/url]
If you're getting a red selector switch, I'm gonna have to get one of those colored aluminum grip sets for my CZ :v:
BTW, for some stupid reason Brownells does not supply parts for Auto 5s to Finland. I would be able to get replacement furniture though.
[t]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/18160655_234204853728063_7376366525675995136_n.jpg[/t] Some pictures of a new Aimpoint Comp M5 are going around. Uses the same mounts as the Micro T1/T2, but has a larger objective lens and uses AAA batteries
My Varusteleka order arrived! I haven't had occasion to dig in to the fish cock yet but it's sitting on my desk, waiting. I'll probably snack on it at work tomorrow. What I was really anxious about though were the leather gloves I ordered, which turned out to be fantastic and don't interfere with dexterity at all. These are easily competitive with very expensive gloves of current manufacture in terms of leather quality and comfort so I'm happy with that, they'll be great in the winter. And I got my German military-issue snuggie (sniper cloak) which I really threw in as a last minute thing 'cus it was cheap. It's pretty cool too.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;52179885]My ammo is so mixed and jumbled in various containers that I don't even have just 1 container per calibre.[/QUOTE] My only ammo can houses loaded AR mags and spare 5.56 rounds. All of my 8mm are in their original boxes just lying around, my shotgun shells are spread haphazardly around my bedroom's desk, and my .30-06 are pre-loaded into enblocs. Also. I think the two mags I have of .45 are loaded into their magazines and somewhere near the gun, but I don't remember right off. So yeah. Organisation is my speciality, too.
[QUOTE=mastoner20;52183492]My only ammo can houses loaded AR mags and spare 5.56 rounds. All of my 8mm are in their original boxes just lying around, my shotgun shells are spread haphazardly around my bedroom's desk, and my .30-06 are pre-loaded into enblocs. Also. I think the two mags I have of .45 are loaded into their magazines and somewhere near the gun, but I don't remember right off. So yeah. Organisation is my speciality, too.[/QUOTE] You might want to transfer your 8mm to a different storage box like the Plastic reloading boxes. The old military cardboard tends to hold onto moisture quite well and it will corrode your ammo.
I was still hungry after dinner so I opened a can of fish cock. It's pretty good. Like Ian and Karl said, definitely very crumbly and salty. Not something I'd want to eat in the desert without access to water. It is driving my cats crazy.
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