Firearms XIV - All the Calicos Are Over There - General

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;51015158]I like my 1911 a lot. I find it to be a very natural and good pointing gun - but it was also my first handgun so it's what I really learned to shoot on. The 1911's weight is normal to me and many other guns are uncomfortably light or awkwardly balanced, which is why I'd prefer a full steel, full-size handgun for carry over a more compact/synthetic option. I still don't see the gripes with the grip safety. I have never had an issue with it. I do acknowledge the platform's other problems. The magazine issues for example are severe and make the whole platform untrustworthy to me when it comes to life or death.[/QUOTE] My issue with the grip safety, is that it's just completely unfucking necessary. In today's day and age, a grip safety shouldn't even have to exist. I don't want some flappy piece of metal on the back of my gun rattling around when there's legit no reason for it. I will not bash on anyone who likes 1911's, M9's, SIG, etc. But the minute someone tells me I'm wrong because I like carrying a Glock, that's when I'm gonna start talking shit. It seems everyone forgets something very important about anything to ever exist ever. Including cars, homes, boats, what you decide to eat for fucking lunch. Is that it's all completely subjective, now it's one thing to call someone a dumbass for buying a WASR-10 over an Arsenal AK for the same price ( If you had a deal like that available to you ) and another for saying "Oh you like shitty AK's, the AR-15 is the best platform ever!"

The grip safety is still there because it's an antiquated design I guess. I personally don't mind it as I find that it doesn't interfere with the operation of the gun at all under normal use and I can't imagine any reason to try to fire the gun in a way that the grip safety wouldn't be engaged but I wouldn't build a new handgun with one. I'm honestly not sure why the 1911 is still so popular for "repros" (I guess they aren't really reproductions but you know what I mean) when there are other handguns even from that period which are honestly much more modern weapons. I don't really care for Glocks personally but I respect their utilitarian nature and I only dog on them for banter :v: I pretty much like all guns. They've all got stories and ups and downs and a place somewhere in the gun world. They aren't all good at everything but something like an AutoMag looks a lot cooler in a case and on the range than, say, a SCCY, even though the AutoMag is utterly ridiculous and impractical in every way compared to the SCCY.

The 1911 as a whole is a completely antiquated, outdated, and hasnt seen a platform wide update in a century. The whole idea of using a pos designed 100+ years ago just blows my mind. What if people were still driving tin lizzies around on the highways? What if Delta was still flying wright flyers on international flights? What if video game devs were using 70 year old PCs that are the size of a school gym? Its just absolutely non sensical that one of the most popular self defense firearms in the US is a 1911. Its honestly fucking stupid, and whats worse is that people are paying $1k+ for them! Theres cheaper guns that are better in literally every regard but 1911 owners still wont convert and they have no justifiable reason for it.

The 1911 isn't as far behind as any of those things, and being an older design isn't inherently a bad thing (judging in part from the 90 year old M2s still in frontline service). The 1911's biggest drawback is being a single stack .45, which severely restricts its ammunition capacity. Guns haven't advanced dramatically since the Colt 1903 defined semi automatic handguns.

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;51015498]The 1911 isn't as far behind as any of those things, and being an older design isn't inherently a bad thing (judging in part from the 90 year old M2s still in frontline service). The 1911's biggest drawback is being a single stack .45, which severely restricts its ammunition capacity. Guns haven't advanced dramatically since the Colt 1903 defined semi automatic handguns.[/QUOTE] If there were a better alternative to the M2, then Im sure the military would switch. Theres a million and one better .45s out there that are dramatically better in every regard. Theres literally no excuse to use one for defense besides some john wayne style sentimentalality

Behold my confused AR. PSA Mock dissipator, Leupold VX-R Patrol with Firedot, Aero Precision lower, Aero Precision NiB BCG, AAC Breakout 2.0, SureFire Scoutlight blah blah with some other stuff. Few hundred rounds through it and it runs good, and the flashlight is bright enough to see the inside of a black cat. My counter tops are granite. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/lLh18VQ.jpg[/IMG] Here's a video of me running the upper with friend's fully-semi automatic BFS Trigger group. The gas blew up my nose so hard that it cleared my sinuses. I've heard of direct impingement but that was ridiculous. :v: [video]https://youtu.be/3BJ1yTrNCqE[/video] That dinging is my muzzle brake :v: Got an AAC SDN762 on the way, should be here in about 6 months.

[QUOTE=Purply;51015856]My counter tops are granite.[/QUOTE] Gonna have to call BS. Your counter tops are clearly marble. :v:

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;51015882]Gonna have to call BS. Your counter tops are clearly marble. :v:[/QUOTE] Actually... *pushes glasses up nose* Those coloration and swirl patterns are dead giveaways that these slabs are variations of Typhoon Bordeaux Granite, not marble. :eng101:

[QUOTE=Purply;51015956]Actually... *pushes glasses up nose* Those coloration and swirl patterns are dead giveaways that these slabs are variations of Typhoon Bordeaux Granite, not marble. :eng101:[/QUOTE] Yeah, bullshit. Next you'll be telling me the Lincoln Memorial was carved out of basalt. :v: Oh, forget to mention. Bought a couple boxes 75gr Hornady TAP on the way home from work. I'm looking forward to seeing what kind of groupings I can get with a 1/8 twist barrel.

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;51016058]Yeah, bullshit. Next you'll be telling me the Lincoln Memorial was carved out of basalt. :v: Oh, forget to mention. Bought a couple boxes 75gr Hornady TAP on the way home from work. I'm looking forward to seeing what kind of groupings I can get with a 1/8 twist barrel.[/QUOTE] Should be fine, heavier 5.56 doesn't need to be spooled up much to stabilize. My 1:7 was driving tacks with some fat-fuck 77gr OTM. [B]Generally speaking[/B], heavy bullets like slower twist rates and lighter ones like fast. And Hornady TAP is some nasty shit, returns home invaders to ambient temp real quick and won't over penetrate. [editline]7th September 2016[/editline] Oh, here's a shot of me bump-firing a friend's PTR-91 [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/j6McCQz.jpg[/IMG]

Bipod out for extra stability

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;51016058]Yeah, bullshit. Next you'll be telling me the Lincoln Memorial was carved out of basalt. :v: Oh, forget to mention. Bought a couple boxes 75gr Hornady TAP on the way home from work. I'm looking forward to seeing what kind of groupings I can get with a 1/8 twist barrel.[/QUOTE] Let me know your results. I bought some as well to use with my 1:8 barrel.

[QUOTE=camaroni;51016428]Let me know your results. I bought some as well to use with my 1:8 barrel.[/QUOTE] Yeah, the guy at the local store wanted to know as well. Next time I hit the range, I'll have to remember to snap a pic of the target.

[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;51013104]It's cool if you want to make a note I'm the guy who has a hate boner over the KSG. It's a Love/Hate relationship though. But mostly hate.[/QUOTE] Note made: Code will hatefuck a KSG like Deadpool's avocados. And yes, it was Trunk, thank you Cyke. I couldn't remember. It was more than a few threads ago we had the debate over how stupid they were for less than 0.0005% of shots taken.

I have 75gr Hornady BTHP, I can confirm 1:12 is not enough to stabilize it. My AR is 1:9, but I'm saving the remaining 15 rounds for my new AR.

[QUOTE=mastoner20;51016868]Note made: Code will hatefuck a KSG like Deadpool's avocados. And yes, it was Trunk, thank you Cyke. I couldn't remember. It was more than a few threads ago we had the debate over how stupid they were for less than 0.0005% of shots taken.[/QUOTE] That .0005th shot is the one that gets ya killed.

I don't think, if I'm ever in a situation where I'm killed by having a 1911 in a stage where it can't physically fire because of a grip safety deactivating my momentum-fed firing pin; I don't think I was destined to walk out of that one alive, even with a Glock or Sig in my feet, any way. There comes a point where you have to just say 'yeah, nah, that 1 time in a fifty billion isn't worth worrying about'. At least that's my opinion.

[QUOTE=mastoner20;51017007]I don't think, if I'm ever in a situation where I'm killed by having a 1911 in a stage where it can't physically fire because of a grip safety deactivating my momentum-fed firing pin; I don't think I was destined to walk out of that one alive, even with a Glock or Sig in my feet, any way. There comes a point where you have to just say 'yeah, nah, that 1 time in a fifty billion isn't worth worrying about'. At least that's my opinion.[/QUOTE] I disagree but even if it were a moot point, theres still an insanely long list of disadvantages that a 1911 has compared to any other .45 acp platform that exists today. And why take the risk? There is literally no justifiable reason to own one for self defense in 2016. You're a fuckin' fool if you use one for CC or HD.

CC in a modern day I can agree with you on. HD, not as much, but that's kind of a moot point. I don't really expect any of my firearms to massively fail at home when they're clean and not abused. I think like anything it comes down to personal preference, and anyone's choice is just as valid as anyone else's on the matter if it gives them security and they're proficient with what they use.

[QUOTE=mastoner20;51017233]CC in a modern day I can agree with you on. HD, not as much, but that's kind of a moot point. I don't really expect any of my firearms to massively fail at home when they're clean and not abused. I think like anything it comes down to personal preference, and anyone's choice is just as valid as anyone else's on the matter if it gives them security and they're proficient with what they use.[/QUOTE] Personal preference can only take you so far dood. You don't see people using flintlocks and BP revolvers for HD because thats retarded, just like using a 1911 for HD is retarded. Believe it or not, a Makarov fits my hand perfectly and I'm a dead eye with it, but I'm not a fucking moron so I wouldn't use an antiquated pistol with a pathetic capacity for HD. Like I have said 2 dozen times, you can find a pistol in .45 ACP that is better in literally every regard in comparison to a 1911 at a comparable or even better price. There is literally no excuse. I mean honestly, why limit yourself? The 1911 has some downright retarded features and a pathetic capacity. A 1911, or any other stupid choice like it, is not a valid choice for self defense of any kind. Anyone who thinks a 1911 is a good choice for any sort of defense is either a fool or a liar who wants to look and feel cool. The US really needs to grow out of this sentimentalism when it comes to guns, especially for defense. It's downright despicable that any company would push a pistol like the 1911 for self defense. It's downright reckless.

Well now I live in a slightly less freedom loving state and can't carry right away.

[QUOTE=Levelog;51017280]Well now I live in a slightly less freedom loving state and can't carry right away.[/QUOTE] I need the details my man.

[QUOTE=DepDirkson;51017349]I need the details my man.[/QUOTE] Moved to Colorado from Mississippi. Mississippi has semi constitutional carry, you don't need a permit for holstered belt or shoulder carry and that's all I do.

[QUOTE=Levelog;51017397]Moved to Colorado from Mississippi. Mississippi has semi constitutional carry, you don't need a permit for holstered belt or shoulder carry and that's all I do.[/QUOTE] We have similar laws here in Virginia and I can't really imagine living somewhere I wasn't allowed to just slap my gun on my hip and walk about my business.

Colorado has permitless open carry, right? I carried my pistol up into the mountains around Durango per advice from a ranger.

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;51017442]Colorado has permitless open carry, right? I carried my pistol up into the mountains around Durango per advice from a ranger.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure. Just no permit less CC

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;51017442]Colorado has permitless open carry, right? I carried my pistol up into the mountains around Durango per advice from a ranger.[/QUOTE] If I remember correctly carrying is legal in Colorado state parks and forests without permit as long as it isn't concealed.

So, apparently my city council is trying to propose a bill to prohibit OC after a protest earlier this year at Trump's rally... They forgot to look at the fact that in the Commonwealth, municipalities are forbidden from making firearm-related codes and statutes.

Show and tell time. I made a new Bubba-Mod to my KSG. Side-mounted shell holder for a slug-change-over. [t]https://i.gyazo.com/2f0adca8cadfde49fe89ff1887d3035d.png[/t] It's a Choate Shell Holder, I drilled a hole in them and indented it so I could use the stock screws pictured below to hold it on the forearm securely. I had the cut the new longer hex screws down to size. [t]https://i.gyazo.com/b36177b0946e96e6c68ffdc5ec8ef94c.png[/t][t]https://i.gyazo.com/f9b39beccdd506d0bfb7acf0f7b2560a.jpg[/t] I kinda went in blind on a whim but it clears the safety and doesn't interfere with anything. It's good because if you want to do a slug change over all you do is slap the selector lever into neutral, rack the action all the way back, extract your slug from the holder, chamber it into the action and rack it back forward. Good to go. With the KSG you only lose one shell on a change over. I just hope there is enough retention to keep the slugs from falling out while I'm racking the fucker and shooting it with the recoil and all shaking everything up. You may ask why I don't keep slugs in one tube and buckshot in the other. Answer is easy, it's way to easy to accidentally switch the selector lever by just nudging it or something. Even before I installed the extended lever so I figure it's better to always know I'm going to fire buck than to accidentally put a slug through something I don't want. Chances are I won't need a slug and if I do I can chamber two in relatively short order. Also if you're stressed out I could totally see someone confusing which tube was selected with what loads. [t]https://i.gyazo.com/9b95383f550e4eaa7480d336c527954c.png[/t] I also have five shells on a velcro card to 'top it off' if I'm shooting and get a second to pause and reload. If I use up all my shells I have more shotgun cards I can swap out for. I originally had it on a one-point but I found that the sling blocked the loading port. The other thing I compromised on was having the brass facing down on the shotgun card. In theory it would be faster to load that way but your hand has to sandwich it's self between your forearm and the shotgun to get at them and the recoil means you lose the shells because the elastic isn't strong enough anyway. Loading from the top is slightly slower but much easier to do under stress and it's usually your first instinct anyway to reach over rather than under. I think it's a decently good system. No one can say I hate the KSG out of principle or anything. I want to love it, I just have a hard time getting behind the horrendous reliability issues. But fuck it looks so cool. Just ordered the last two things to complete it than you'll all be jealous of me.

I'm taking the IPSC A license course this weekend. My rig is set up, my gun is oiled, and I have 1000+ rounds of 9mm ready in the safe. I'm really looking forward to it!