My grandfather apparently worked with Finnish remanufacturing of mosins and then came back to Estonia to help us make our Estonian mosins
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/wTcTiOj.jpg[/IMG]
here's another Estonian bloke with his Estmosin
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/fDWkNLM.jpg[/IMG]
So what firearms are legal in Sweden without a license? Pistols from 15th century, but you can't have the powder.
[QUOTE=The bird Man;50900705]So what firearms are legal in Sweden without a license? Pistols from 15th century, but you can't have the powder.[/QUOTE]
Blackpowder are the only once iirc
[QUOTE=zurf3r;50900832]Blackpowder are the only once iirc[/QUOTE]
Yes. But that's what I want :v:
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;50900353]that DDR ammo is pretty collectable in its own, I wouldn't shoot it but rather keep it as a fun semi-rare thing to have. not going to be extremely accurate either so don't waste the elbow grease on cleaning after shooting it :p
i have a lot of finnish ammo in my collection (7,62x39, 7,62x53r, 9x19, carcano ammo and civilian sako/lapua rounds) but zero estonian. seems estonia mostly imported ammo. you guys did make quite some .303 ammo though so that would be neato to have someday[/QUOTE]
Ive probably got about 200 rounds of that east german stuff, never shot any though. I bought an m44 with a cardboard box with about 500 rounds of odd ball 54r. Boy do i love gunshows
[t]http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/img_5699.jpg[/t]
The new Glock 17M that was made for the FBI contract. The changes will probably be incorporated into the Gen 5 series
[QUOTE]Changes are:
1. New, “tougher” finish
2. Different rifling
3. Longer RSA
4. Reinforced front RSA notch
5. Smoother trigger (similar to G42/G43)
6. Flared magwell
7. Removed finger grooves
8. Safety plunger is oblong/rectangular instead of round
9. Ambi slide release
10. Magazine well cut out
11. Magazines have a slightly extended front lip.”[/QUOTE]
looks like literally every other glock
Every Glock looks the same, like an ugly grey box.
My Underwood Speer's came in!
[T]http://i.imgur.com/zCFtsak.jpg[/T]
[T]http://i.imgur.com/jmYOgRC.jpg[/T]
Anyone who says they haven't taken that picture at least once is lying
I did it without putting myself directly in front of the muzzle anyway, so anyone who gets mad can kiss my ass.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;50901733]looks.. really ugly compared to g3/g4 glocks
just something really weird about it[/QUOTE]
It's probably the lack of fingergrooves. The grip looks oddly smooth now. But a lot of people don't like the fingergrooves because they don't work well with certain sized fingers, so this is an improvement for a lot of users
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50902423]Anyone who says they haven't taken that picture at least once is lying[/QUOTE]
I haven't and I'm not lying.
Also there's a lot of S&W 19s for sale recently here. I did some research, and I discovered that the forcing cone has a tendency to crack with prolonged use of .357. I'm going to be shooting at least 1000 .357 since I'm buying a crate of it, and as such I have decided not to buy a 19, even though they're a very pretty gun.
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;50902434]I did it without putting myself directly in front of the muzzle anyway, so anyone who gets mad can kiss my ass.[/QUOTE]
That's a hot weapon, you know better than that. You Delta boys are a bunch of undisciplined cowboys!
They must have outsourced the manufacturing to Kel-Tec.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcf1cTJCGk4[/media]
A few malfunctions within the break in period are forgivable. Looks like a passable gun. The misfires with the steel ammo may not have been the gun's fault, either - that many issues with a specific batch while it goes bang with every other type sounds like an issue with the ammo.
Looks like the magazine would benefit from a better follower design, though.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50903442]A few malfunctions within the break in period are forgivable. Looks like a passable gun. The misfires with the steel ammo may not have been the gun's fault, either - that many issues with a specific batch while it goes bang with every other type sounds like an issue with the ammo.
Looks like the magazine would benefit from a better follower design, though.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I haven't heard too many good things about commercial Russian ammo. About the only thing it has going for it is the price.
Guy's coming to get my bike, so I sold it! Literally 5 minutes after ending the phone call I see a Llama Commanche III for $350. So I look up the Llama and find a bunch of reports of the cylinders exploding. No Llama for me. I think I'll get a standard GP-100.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;50903351]They must have outsourced the manufacturing to Kel-Tec.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcf1cTJCGk4[/media][/QUOTE]
Nope, just typical American made/designed garbage. Maybe if it was made in some backwater Baltic country like the XD's it would have passable reliability.
Just found a [url=http://www.firearmsoutletcanada.com/colt-m203-40mm-pre-owned.html#.V7TkHDWHhP0]Colt M203[/url] for sale for $2300.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;50903574]Nope, just typical American made/designed garbage. Maybe if it was made in some backwater Baltic country like the XD's it would have passable reliability.[/QUOTE]
Those kinds of reviews are worth a lot more with a gun that's been broken in a little and cleaned a few times. Just grabbing a brand new gun out of the box and putting 500 rounds through it, yeah, you're gonna run into some problems.
I don't know anything about this gun so I don't really have a vested interest in defending it but I don't think it's fair to the gun to declare it shit when it hasn't been broken in and you're feeding it crap ammo with tons of bad primers.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;50903535]Yeah, I haven't heard too many good things about commercial Russian ammo. About the only thing it has going for it is the price.[/QUOTE]
Shoots better than that US made Winchester steel cased pistol ammo that seems to have been really terrible.
Hard primers are the cause of those failures, and you can have the same problems in commercial rifles with military spec ammo with hard primers to prevent slamfires.
Raceguns with light hammer springs will fail too.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50903633]Those kinds of reviews are worth a lot more with a gun that's been broken in a little and cleaned a few times. Just grabbing a brand new gun out of the box and putting 500 rounds through it, yeah, you're gonna run into some problems.
I don't know anything about this gun so I don't really have a vested interest in defending it but I don't think it's fair to the gun to declare it shit when it hasn't been broken in and you're feeding it crap ammo with tons of bad primers.[/QUOTE]
Yea if your gun isn't broken in after 500 rounds, then its probably just broken. My CZ pistol was broke in after 20 rounds. Had one FTF during the break in process and it was smooth as butter after that.
But naw, American made guns are fine they just have to be broken in in a process of 6 1,200 round sessions before the gun is broken in such a manner that it finally works. Has nothing with Remington's inability to make a gun work that isn't a pump action or bolt action.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;50903699]Yea if your gun isn't broken in after 500 rounds, then its probably just broken. My CZ pistol was broke in after 20 rounds. Had one FTF during the break in process and it was smooth as butter after that.
But naw, American made guns are fine they just have to be broken in in a process of 6 1,200 round sessions before the gun is broken in such a manner that it finally works. Has nothing with Remington's inability to make a gun work that isn't a pump action or bolt action.[/QUOTE]
Seemed like it was running fine with the 124 grain brass he was feeding it except for the occasional hang-up due to the follower letting rounds nose dive, but I skipped around a little so I may have missed something.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;50900353]that DDR ammo is pretty collectable in its own, I wouldn't shoot it but rather keep it as a fun semi-rare thing to have. not going to be extremely accurate either so don't waste the elbow grease on cleaning after shooting it :p
i have a lot of finnish ammo in my collection (7,62x39, 7,62x53r, 9x19, carcano ammo and civilian sako/lapua rounds) but zero estonian. seems estonia mostly imported ammo. you guys did make quite some .303 ammo though so that would be neato to have someday[/QUOTE]
I was under the impression that the M28/30s were designed to fire 7.62x53r exclusively because they have a .308 bore as opposed to the M39's .310 bore.
If you're going to shoot it, get some heavier grain loads up between 170-200grs as the original D46 and D166 ball loads were 170gr and 200gr respectively.
D166 bullet in the middle:
[img]http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/130/fac02df97f3a4fc5947a70c097b677c7/l.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;50903849]yeah, unless it has a D stamped on the receiver/sight/barrel shank.
i [B]really[/B] wouldn't shoot regular 54r in a 53r/.308 barrel
i have tried explaining it before but seems most of this thread doesn't think there isn't any truth to it[/QUOTE]
If it has a "D" marking, it's for shooting D166 with a broader ogive giving it a longer OAL, otherwise in a non- D barrel, the OAL would have to be shorter.
[editline]17th August 2016[/editline]
[url]http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/finnfaq.asp[/url]
What is the D stamping seen on Finnish barrels?
This simply means the rifle is chambered to handle the Soviet-Finnish D round, which was the standard round of the WW2 era.
If the rifle is not D stamped, is the rifle safe to fire using standard surplus ammo?
With M39 and WW2 M91 production the D chambering was standard, so many of these rifles will not have the D marking. That is due to the fact it was the standard so there was no need to mark such rifles. The only rifles that might cause a worry for lack of the D stamping would be the M91-24 and the M28-30 rifles. To be safe it is always a good idea to have the rifle checked by a gunsmith if there are any questions. Better to be safe than sorry.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50903771]Seemed like it was running fine with the 124 grain brass he was feeding it except for the occasional hang-up due to the follower letting rounds nose dive, but I skipped around a little so I may have missed something.[/QUOTE]
All im saying is that American made guns retroactively caused the holocaust because theyre so garbage
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;50903351]They must have outsourced the manufacturing to Kel-Tec.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcf1cTJCGk4[/media][/QUOTE]
What a shame. A really beautiful gun and I wanted one, but every review said it was shit, and Remington ended up recalling them all.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;50903101]That's a hot weapon, you know better than that. You Delta boys are a bunch of undisciplined cowboys![/QUOTE]
Oh absolutely sir, I've felt the power of this thing in my hands.
If I try and shoot this like a 9 mil, I can do it for 2 mags and then my hands will be shaking for about 3 hours.
[QUOTE=MAC21500;50903788]I was under the impression that the M28/30s were designed to fire 7.62x53r exclusively because they have a .308 bore as opposed to the M39's .310 bore.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;50903849]yeah, unless it has a D stamped on the receiver/sight/barrel shank.
i [B]really[/B] wouldn't shoot regular 54r in a 53r/.308 barrel
i have tried explaining it before but seems most of this thread doesn't think there isn't any truth to it
[editline]18th August 2016[/editline]
the 1941 VKT made one has a D stamp = good to go
other one not so much unless there is a D on it somewhere
D means it has been rebored/rechambered to use captured russian ammo[/QUOTE]
Thank you, great info. I gauged the bore myself and it looks like it's .308, I will have a gunsmith confirm but it is most likely x53r. Are the casings the same between x53 and x54? I am a machinist by trade and I may be able to come up with a reloading solution for the primer issue with these things and reload the old x54 cases with proper bullets IF they are the same. Otherwise this will remain a display gun. :frown: I may have to buy this nice Russian M44 from the same friend to supplement my short Mosin needs.
I also picked up another gun yesterday in trade for work (like the m28/30). It's a Tokarev, and probably the nicest looking one I've ever seen anywhere. The finish is polished blue, really pretty. It also has an unusual frame mounted safety just behind the left grip that I can't find any other examples of. I will take some pictures of it when I get home, as I am getting ready to leave for work now.
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